ClimateGate II: Email 4766 – Data? Hide It. Forget It

Tom Nelson is doing an incredible job going through every single email in the most recent batch, and comes up with this doozy from Phil Jones

Dear All, There are several issues you should be aware of:

1. UEA has denied access to the data to McIntyre (and at least two others in the past) – in 2007. One of the three appealed and that appeal was rejected. We would look stupid if you released the data now. I can put your FOI person in touch with the one at UEA. I think they already know each other! (yeah, sharing publicly funded scientific data would be dumb)

We put up this page at the time

So they have a list of which stations are used.

2. I have signed agreements with some Met Services (European ones) in the 1990s that I would not pass on their data to third parties. The data could be used in the gridding though and gridded products made available. I never kept a list of which stations these were though, as I never thought such problems would arise. (hiding the data and forgetting where it came from? Now that’s science!)

3. Work on the land station data has been funded by the US Dept of Energy, and I have their agreement that the data needn’t be passed on. I got this in 2007. (So, the DoE is in collusion to hide data gathered on the taxpayer dime?)

4. You web site says that anyone requesting the data should apply to me, so tell him that’s what they should do. I think you should remove this sentence, by the way. It is this that has opened up the issue again.

5. The data aren’t yours to release! Maybe there is no formal IPR agreement, but there is an implicit one. (no, they are the taxpayers to release, bub. And, if it isn’t replicable, it isn’t science)

6. We’ve altered the version that you have anyway. We’re also in the process of doing more of this. (altering data? I’m shocked, shocked, I tell you!)

7. You’d need to waste your time combining the two parts of the data and removing the stations that don’t get used.

Cheers Phil

And there you have the last one, #7, which highlights that the data is being intentionally changed and hidden. And they call us Climate Realists “anti-science”?

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4 Responses to “ClimateGate II: Email 4766 – Data? Hide It. Forget It”

  1. gitarcarver says:

    You know Teach, I gotta say that you do a great job on monitoring the global warming issue. There are sites that are more technically oriented, but you do a good job posting the pertinent stuff in an easy to read format.

    A tip of the fedora to you.

  2. Word says:

    and this………..

    is exactly why………

    The Science



  3. Thanks, GT. It helps that my focus has always been on the politics, rather than the super deep scientific details. I get emails now and then about people changing their minds, which makes it all worth it.

    Of course, what’s not settled, Word, is the politics. Warmists just don’t give up.

  4. Ariel says:

    Of course, what’s not settled, Word, is the politics. Warmists just don’t give up.

    Warmists give up? Not bloody likely, not when they are so close to seizing the brass ring, ie total control of our lives down to the very air that we breathe.

    Combating the fictitious AGW is the totalitarian’s wet dream, which may be why Al Gore has been having trouble with his “chakra” since Climategate and Clamategate II revealed the “scientific consensus” to be an elaborate hoax.

    Nevertheless, despite the exposure of this huge fraud and its subsequent frenetic coverup, the powers that be, such as the UN and the Obama administration are still in full court press to capitalize on the “settled science” of anthropogenic global warming, and continue to institute stricter and stricter regulations to stifle the economies of the US and other Western nations, all the while awarding lucrative green energy contracts to their cronies and comrades.

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