Excitable Andy Falls For The Straw Man

Two words: crazy insane (people who’ve seen Weird Science know what I’m talkin’ ’bout!). Excitable Andy discussed The Ignorance of the Right in discussing B. Hussein and his lack of substance. First, he starts in on Victor David Hanson, then proceeds to explain why B. Hussein actually has substance because he speak articulately. Maybe B. Hussein should be called Jim Jones.

The quote from Hanson

Under pressure to produce some facts and specifics, the Obama team is beginning to release a little on the economy, taxes, and new entitlements.

Obama empty suitExcitable Andy responds with

Now the reason I balk at this is that I actually sat through a long Obama speech on taxes last year in Washington. I couldn’t get through the details there were so many. It bored the pants off me. The notion that Obama has not released details and specifics on economic policy is a fantasy. It’s a product of pundit laziness. The cocoon right seems to believe that because they haven’t done their homework, Obama hasn’t.

Really? When? ‘Cause it seems that no one else attended it, including the media. And Excitable Andy still misses the point about B. Hussein, being that talking is not doing. Also, that Obama wants to be president, so, it is incumbent on HIM to do more then speak towards change and hope. If I want a sermon, I will go to church.

And because Obama actually inspires with oratory, they also assume he doesn’t have substance. The premise is that you cannot be inspiring and detailed at the same time. Two words: Why not?

What people fail to understand is that in politics, words are also substance. ……..

In terms of getting elected, yes, they are substance. But, that still does not prove that Obama actually has any. I wonder if Sullivan can name anything of importance that Obama has actually done in government? That would be interesting, because Obama can’t even seem to do that, based on his speeches which are chock full of hope and change, change and hope, and not much else. So, yes, we assume he has little actionable substance.

Let me put it this way: when a Fortune 500 company looks to hire a CEO, they look for someone with experience, vision, and action plans. Speaking well is a bonus, but, not the primary thing they are looking for. Or, how about closer to home: you want to hire someone to be the manager of a department store. Do you hire someone with experience at the job, such as someone who did it at another store, or an assistant manager at another store? Or, just hire one of the department heads, who hasn’t been on the job too long, and hasn’t really done anything? But he/she speaks so well!

There is nothing wrong with speaking well, but, if that is all someone is doing……..

You know, there was another populist leader from the 20th century who got elected running the same way. He was a brilliant speaker, able to whip the masses up, invoke deep feelings in the Volk, yet, there was little behind the speeches other then a rough outline of what he wanted to get done.

Actually, pardon me: Hitler had slightly more experience in government and getting things done when he first ran for President in 1932.

Fausta mentions Excitable Andy in her post “Fainting For Obama.”

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10 Responses to “Excitable Andy Falls For The Straw Man”

  1. Silke says:

    The only straw man here is your comparison of Barack Obama to Hitler.

    I haven’t decided who I’m going to vote for yet but I can tell you it’s not going to be based solely on ideology. McCain and Obama are both good men who would bring different talents to the office of the Presidency.

  2. John Ryan says:

    Teach thanks for the heads up on Obama and Hitler, unfortunately for the hard right I understand Hitler is no longer available for that position. Obama is still the favorite to win. Perhaps instead of disparaging him so much you might try telling us how GREAT McCain is ?

  3. I’m missing the part where you refuted my comparison to the way Hitler came in to power to the way Obama campaigns. Read your history, Silke.

    I’d love to know what Obama has to offer besides hope and change. Hell, most of his hard core supporters do not know what the guy offers in a substantive manner.

    John, Hitler was very much the product of the Left. National Socialism was based around Marxist theory, and very much espoused what are left wing ideologies. Read your history.

  4. Silke says:

    I’m missing the part where you refuted my comparison to the way Hitler came in to power to the way Obama campaigns. Read your history, Silke.

    Ronald Reagan and Winston Churchill were also very effective communicators – that didn’t make them Hitler.

    I’d love to know what Obama has to offer besides hope and change. Hell, most of his hard core supporters do not know what the guy offers in a substantive manner.

    Start here: http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

    John, Hitler was very much the product of the Left. National Socialism was based around Marxist theory, and very much espoused what are left wing ideologies. Read your history.

    Teach, I majored in modern European history at West Point and my parents grew up in Germany during WWII. You couldn’t be more wrong. Adolph Hitler despised Marxism. He opposed the idea of class conflict and instead focused on nationalism and anti-Semitism. He considered Marxism a Jewish doctrine.

    Here are some direct quotes from Mein Kampf:

    In this period my eyes were opened to two menaces of which I had previously scarcely known the names, and whose terrible importance for the existence of the German people I certainly did not understand: Marxism and Jewry.
    …
    At that time I was still childish enough to try to make the madness of their doctrine clear to them; in my little circle I talked my tongue sore and my throat hoarse, thinking I would inevitably succeed in convincing them how ruinous their Marxist madness was; but what I accomplished was often the opposite. It seemed as though their increased understanding of the destructive effects of Social Democratic theories and their results only reinforced their determination.
    …
    The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength by the mass of numbers and their dead weight. This it denies the value of personality in man, contests the significance of nationality and race, and thereby withdraws from humanity the premise of its existence and its culture.

    http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv1ch02.html

  5. Ronald Reagan and Winston Churchill had ideas and plans. They were not stuck on mostly empty rhetoric. Furthermore, they had experience, of which Obama is pretty much devoid.

    I’ve read Obama’s pages, just like I spent plenty of time at john kerry’s website. He still is political lightweight with virtually no experience. We are looking for a president, not a dogcatcher who hopes he can find the pups.

    Hitler and the fascist movements were decidedly left wing. Hitler and his version were populist, and had few actual detailed plans, other then Statism. How to get there, they had no clue. Grand ideals, but nothing beyond a rudimentary rough draft.

  6. darthcrUSAderworldtour2007 says:

    Comrade Ryan wants to poll the following?

    Whose ears are bigger?

    A. Obama
    B. Yoda
    C. Elephants (African only)
    D. Mr. Spock

    Sponsored by Q-TIPS for OBAMA 2008 !

  7. Silke says:

    Teach said: Hitler and the fascist movements were decidedly left wing. Hitler and his version were populist, and had few actual detailed plans, other then Statism. How to get there, they had no clue. Grand ideals, but nothing beyond a rudimentary rough draft.

    Teach, you are wrong – just as you were about Marxism. Mein Kampf gives a very detailed plan of how Hitler will re-exert Germany’s power on the world stage. If your understanding of history is any indication I really have to wonder about your knowledge of Obama.

    Lack of experience is a valid criticism but comparing Obama to Hitler is just ridiculous.

  8. Steve says:

    This is the song that Obama reminds me of.

    http://www.hamienet.com/midi7595_Superstar.html

    Barack Obama, Superstar.

    Who are you, what kind of change are you are talking about?

    Barack Obama, Superstar,

    Who are you, what kind of change are you are talking about?

    Barack Obama, Superstar

    Who are you, what kind of change are you talking about?

    Adoph Hitler could really rally those masses, and Olde Joe Stalin could make them walk barefoot through broken glasses, And Ho Chin Minn, he could bring the crowd in, and that Po Pot he know how his words could make them hot…

    Now do you believe?

    Now Marshall Applewhite made them think that they were going to go to Heaven on a comet, and David Koresh he sent his faithful on a path to Armageddon. And of course we all know about olde Jim Jones. His people did what he told em and that Kool-aid got overflowin…

    Now do you believe? (the mesmerized crowd shouts back Yes we Believe) Now do you believe?(louder) Yes, we believe! Hallelujah now get that sister some water (the front row of women then faints).

    Barack Obama, Superstar,

    Who are you, what kind of change are you are talking about?

    Barack Obama, Superstar

    Who are you, what kind of change are you talking about?

    Now do you see yourself as as Che’s Second comin… Or maybe you set yourself up on a path even higher. Perhaps you do see yourself as the new Messiah, start a new religion with your as its idol.

    Do you believe?

    Cults of personalities well they very rarely end well and with yours it could set the earth a trembling… For when you come unglued as all cult leaders in the end do, you could push that nuclear button and set the earth afire..

    Barack Obama, Superstar,

    Who are you, what kind of change are you are talking about?

    Barack Obama, Superstar!

    Who are you, what kind of change are you talking about?

  9. darthcrUSAderworldtour2007 says:

    Teach is 100% right about the 3rd Reich and Nazism / Fascism / Socialism! Teach, at least a few of us watched this presentation
    on C-Span tonight – ‘Liberal Fascism’ by Jonas Goldberg http://www.heritage.org.
    Socialism / Fascism / Communism resulted in 64 million deaths (Russia/Soviets) and 30 million in Communist China… Hitler only 21 million!

    Here’s radical islamofascism – ?

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    Thanks to Leaning Straight Up, I have some links to share with you from the city council, the mayor, and some of the good people who were/are involved in this debacle at Berkeley. It took him hours to put this together, and there should be more to co…..

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