If they won’t use them, then what’s the point of giving Ukraine cluster bombs?
Ukraine vows it won’t use cluster bombs in Russia
Ukraine’s Defence Minister Oleksii Reznikov welcomed a U.S. decision to send cluster bombs to Kyiv, saying it would help to liberate Ukrainian territory but promised the munitions would not be used in Russia.
The U.S. announced on Friday it would supply Ukraine with widely banned cluster munitions for its counteroffensive against occupying Russian forces.
Reznikov said the munitions would help save the lives of Ukrainian soldiers, adding Ukraine would keep a strict record of their use and exchange information with its partners.
“Our position is simple – we need to liberate our temporarily occupied territories and save the lives of our people,” Reznikov wrote on Twitter.
“Ukraine will use these munitions only for the de-occupation of our internationally recognized territories. These munitions will not be used on the officially recognized territory of Russia.”
Translation: this is the new wonder weapon that will push the Russians back.
Reality: by the time this new “wonder weapon” is deployed and used for the first time Ukraine and the media will have moved on to the next wonder weapon Ukraine needs that will change the tide of war. It will grind on like WWI lines. I’m not sure why they are needed, since the media and Biden admin keep telling us that Ukraine, led by Authoritarians, is winning.
Anyhow, good thing the Biden admin never said using them would be a war crime
Shortly after the invasion, on February 28, 2022, then White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki was asked about munitions. “There are reports of illegal cluster bombs and vacuum bombs being used by the Russians,” a reporter asked. “If that’s true, what is the next step of this administration? And is there a red line for how much violence will be tolerated against civilians in this manner that’s illegal and potentially a war crime?”
In response, Psaki said that yes, the use of cluster bombs would be considered a war crime. “It is — it would be. I don’t have any confirmation of that. We have seen the reports. If that were true, it would potentially be a war crime,” she said.
They are banned by over 100 countries.
(Reuters) Canada is against the use of cluster munitions that Washington has promised to give Ukraine for its counteroffensive against occupying Russian forces, Ottawa said on Saturday, reiterating a commitment to the Oslo agreement that bans the controversial weapon.
Spain is also against the delivery of the weapons.
Teach they are not bombs
They are artillery shells
Why it is necessary to stand up to bullies like Putin is a lesson most of us learned in middle school
As Mr H diligently applies playground rules to a nation with a strategic nuclear arsenal. We are very impressed.
We do not know what a post-Putin Russia will look like, but there’s one point I do not see the neocons considering. With all of the comparisons to ‘we should have stopped Adolf Hitler in 1938’ that we see concerning Vladimir Putin, the Nazi leader was 49 years old in 1938, while Vladimir Vladimirovich will turn 71 in three months’ time. With a Russian military which will have to rebuild following the war with Ukraine, regardless of how that war ends, the argument that we have to deter future aggression from him seems short-sighted. Even if Russia finally wins in Ukraine, and Mr Putin manages to hang onto power for the rest of his miserable life, he could be approaching, or even over, 80 years old before Russia would be ready for another aggressive move, and the Russian military leaders of tomorrow, who today are the field-grade officers mired in the Ukraine war, are going to have the experience to know that another such assault against another nation will not go according to plan.
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The linked article stated:
So, in a nation desperately at war, fighting for their lives, and trying to drive the
SovietsRussians back, there will be someone calmly standing there, diligently keeping strict and accurate records of every artillery shell fired? Is anyone stupid enough to believe that?Yeah, every democommie in America.
W the Actual F. Those munitions were set aside as too cruel to use even for the defense of the USA, but we will let the Ukraine use them. There is absolutely no line we won’t cross in our proxy war against Russia.
The US Army spent billions developing replacement munitions that aren’t as good and cost twice as much because all those hippies and anti-war people in the left during the Obama administration decided that the USA would abide by the cluster munition treaty even though we didn’t sign it. Our arsenal is still not full of the replacement munitions because we couldn’t afford it, but the Ukraine needs it so all the left wing talking heads are on the media talking about how awesome cluster munitions are.
It’s as if they don’t believe we remember only ten years ago.
BTW, using cluster munitions is not a war crime. The reason over a hundred nations signed a treaty against them is because of the dud rate of the submunitions creating a hazardous disposal zone long after the war ends. Of course, none of those nations were at war at the time. The morality bar shifts when you are at war. American cluster munitions have a submunition dud rate of around 2%. Normal artillery rounds have a dud rate around 7%. Treaty compliant rounds must have a dud rate less than 1%. So, effectively a difference of 1% in dud rate makes one munition totally immoral and another A-O-K.
Don’t get me started on those utterly stupid land mine treaties. May Princess Di rot in hell.