CDC Loosens Wuhan Flu Guidance, Mentions Natural Immunity

The changes are supposed to be an admission of reality

Dr. Bruce Farber, chief of public health and epidemiology at Northwell Health and the chief of infectious diseases at North Shore University Hospital and LIJ Medical Center, thinks changes like these are partly an “admission of reality” from the CDC.

“I can’t speak for the CDC, but I think in this particular case that their guidelines have to be, at least somewhat, in touch with what people are doing regardless of what their guidelines are,” he said.

In other words, most people haven’t bothered with CDC guidance in quite some time. They’ve moved on to live with COVID19. Except for politicians who love the power

CDC ends recommendations for social distancing and quarantine for Covid-19 control, no longer recommends test-to-stay in schools

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says the nation should move away from restrictive measures such as quarantines and social distancing and focus on reducing severe disease from Covid-19.

Most of us have

In new guidelines released Thursday, the agency no longer recommends staying at least 6 feet away from other people to reduce the risk of exposure — a shift from guidance that had been in place since the early days of the pandemic.

The shift is a sign of how much has changed since the beginning of the pandemic more than two years ago. Nearly the entire US population has at least some immunity through vaccination, previous infection or, in some cases, both.

“The current conditions of this pandemic are very different from those of the last two years,” Greta Massetti, who leads the Field Epidemiology and Prevention Branch at the CDC, said Thursday.

“High levels of population immunity due to vaccination and previous infection and the many available tools to protect the general population, and protect people at higher risk, allow us to focus on protecting people from serious illness from Covid-19.”

Wait, hold on, what was that?

As SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, continues to circulate globally, high levels of vaccine- and infection-induced immunity and the availability of effective treatments and prevention tools have substantially reduced the risk for medically significant COVID-19 illness (severe acute illness and post–COVID-19 conditions) and associated hospitalization and death

That’s from the CDC guidelines. For what, 2 years, they told us that natural immunity really wasn’t a thing, particularly after the vaccines were released. Now they say it is thing.

Anyhow, there are lots of changes in terms of contact tracing, isolation if exposed but no symptoms, and doing away with the 6 foot rule (bummer, I like to keep my distance and do not like to shake hands. I’ll continue doing that. Don’t forget, the chances of getting it come more from people you know getting close than strangers. I’ll also continue washing my hands a lot, but, I did that before COVID)

But the guidance does keep some measures the same. It encourages testing for people with symptoms and their close contacts. It also says people who test positive should stay home for at least five days and wear a mask around others for 10 days. It also continues to recommend that people wear masks indoors in about half the country.

Huh? Masks don’t work. If you’re still sick, stay home. Keep away from the rest of us, just like if it is a flu or a cold.

Chin-Hong thinks some states, like California, will continue to go beyond the CDC’s guidance in their own recommendations, but by and large, he thinks these reflect the prevailing attitudes toward the pandemic. He sees it as a move by the CDC to try to regain the public’s trust.

That’s because Government likes controlling the citizens

A recent survey from the Annenberg Public Policy Center shows that most Americans (54%) are no longer masking indoors, and about 4 in 10 say they’ve fully returned to their pre-pandemic routines — up from 16% in January.

Where are these 46% who mask indoors? Around my area, I’d put it at 5-10%, and half of them are either wearing a worthless mask, like a cloth or medical one, not a K-95, and half of all, regardless of type of mask aren’t wearing it properly, leaving openings and uncovering their noses and even mouths.

The agency removed the recommendation that kids in different classrooms avoid mixing, a practice known as cohorting. It also removed advice that kids who are contacts of someone who tested positive for Covid-19 take regular tests — and test negative — to remain in the classroom, which was known as test-to-stay.

But, schools being the uber-liberal hotbeds they are, will probably force kids to do things like masking, even as the guidance was loosened a while ago. They love that power. But, really, most of us have moved on to some degree.

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18 Responses to “CDC Loosens Wuhan Flu Guidance, Mentions Natural Immunity”

  1. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Teach typed: For what, 2 years, they told us that natural immunity really wasn’t a thing, particularly after the vaccines were released. Now they say it is thing.

    Did “they”? Isn’t it more accurate to say that, yes, natural immunity is real, but since over 1 million Americans died from Covid, relying on only natural immunity would have condemned millions more Americans to death. And unvaccinated people who live through Covid can still become reinfected with Covid!

    A little learning is a dangerous thing;
    Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
    There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
    And drinking largely sobers us again.

    – Alexander Pope

    Why not rely on natural immunity for all infectious diseases? Polio? Smallpox? Flu? Measles?

    • alanstorm says:

      And unvaccinated people who live through Covid can still become reinfected with Covid!

      Um, living through Kung Flu is what bestows natural immunity, child. Biden is the only person I’ve heard of who caught it twice, but he’s squarely in the high-risk pool.

      The only evidence I saw about “reinfection” concerned the so-called “vaccines”. (Here’s a hint: if any but a miniscule fraction of the immunized develop the disease anyway, it’s not a vaccine in the understanding of sane, intelligent people.)

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Of course people contract Covid more than once. Both those who are vaccinated and unvaccinated.

        You should do a little more research on vaccines.

      • James Lewis says:

        Alan, I suspect we are on the same page about many things, but vaccines that weaken are well known. The flu, tetanus and bacterial pneumonia come immediately to mind but there are probably others.

        The problem is that the CDC did tell us that it wasn’t perfect way back in December 2020. The politicians and talking heads way way way over sold it and, for whatever reason, many on the Libertarian Right attacked it while pushing various other drugs that have never had a real double blind study.

        I am hopeful some future historian will produce a story that covers all the mistakes, mishaps, lies, power playing and other actions the pandemic has produced.

  2. drowningpuppies says:

    Rimjob: Isn’t it more accurate to say that, yes, natural immunity is real, but since over 1 million Americans died from Covid, relying on only natural immunity would have condemned millions more Americans to death.
    Um, no it isn’t. Try to keep up with the latest CDC admitting they made plenty of errors relying on the so-called “vaccines”.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:


      Please try to keep up. Rather than make unsupported claims please supply links.

    • L.G.Brandon!, L.G.Brandon! says:

      As usual you obfuscate. Nobody said to rely ONLY on natural immunity. In fact it was idiots like you DEMANDING other people be vaccinated with a shot that failed to do its job. How many Americans died or are now permanently maimed by these experimental shots? Can’t answer that because the results are not in or the facts are being covered up.

      You fail to realize that after your ilk has lied to us so many times its impossible to believe you any more. Especially when for two years you like we have been aware of cooking the numbers on Wuhan yet still insist on denying the truth and repeating the fake numbers.

      How do you expect us to believe?

      F the pedo. Hang the leftists, save the Republic.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Conmenter: How many Americans died or are now permanently maimed by these experimental shots?

        Hundreds of millions of shots were administered. Do you have credible evidence that anyone died or was permanently maimed?

        We expect normal people to make a good faith effort to understand the truth.

        You have severe ED (Electile Dysfunction), you deny that global warming exists, you deny that Covid is deadly, you feel that ivermectin cures Covid (which you feel doesn’t even exist), you feel vaccines kill more people than they save, you feel the FBI planted evidence at Mars-a-Lagos. You suffer from extreme TDS (Truth Derangement Syndrome).

        • david7134 says:

          Your little obnoxious scribble dreaming up junk about LG applies to yourself more than him.

          The issue with the vac is that it was made compulsory for an illness with a survivability in excess of 99.5%. Yes, people were forced to take the vac by the government at several levels in liberal enclaves in order to get the essentials of life. As it is developing, the vac does little for the risk it Carrie’s. You portrayed yourself as a medical person, which you most certainly are not, advocating for the vac with your little lies. Now you will go on about one million people dying of the illness, mostly because of missed diagnosis and following WHO guidelines.

          As to all the other points, you lie, that is it.

          • drowningpuppies says:

            The federal government okayed these experimental shots, mandated the masks and lockdowns, mandated the shots or lose your job.
            It’s the federal government that needs to be held accountable in a court of law.
            Hundreds of thousands of people have died needlessly due to being forced to participate in a clinical trial.

            One report estimates over 170,000 excess deaths due to the experimental “vaccines” and boosters.

            Bwaha! Lolgf

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Conmenter: One report estimates over 170,000 excess deaths due to the experimental “vaccines” and boosters.

            One “report” estimated 171,000 excess deaths NOT resulting from COVID infection. This is not a medical paper but an economic report. They did not attribute the deaths to the vaccine.

            From April 2020 through at least the end of 2021, Americans died from non-Covid causes at an average annual rate 97,000 in excess of previous trends. Hypertension and heart disease deaths combined were elevated 32,000. Diabetes or obesity, drug-induced causes, and alcohol-induced causes were each elevated 12,000 to 15,000 above previous (upward) trends. Drug deaths especially followed an alarming trend, only to significantly exceed it during the pandemic to reach 108,000 for calendar year 2021. Homicide and motor-vehicle fatalities combined were elevated almost 10,000. Various other causes combined to add 18,000. While Covid deaths overwhelmingly afflict senior citizens, absolute numbers of non-Covid excess deaths are similar for each of the 18-44, 45-64, and over-65 age groups, with essentially no aggregate excess deaths of children. Mortality from all causes during the pandemic was elevated 26 percent for working-age adults (18-64), as compared to 18 percent for the elderly. Other data on drug addictions, non-fatal shootings, weight gain, and cancer screenings point to a historic, yet largely unacknowledged, health emergency.

            Can any of the conmenters supply a credible publication attributing 10s of thousands, if not 100s of thousands of deaths to Covid vaccines?

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Conmenter: Nobody said to rely ONLY on natural immunity.

        But isn’t that exactly what you’re saying, since you claim the vaccines don’t work and in fact are killing people.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Don’t you have two siblings in medicine? But you “chose” to be a fireman. You don’t seem to be med school material. Jus’ sayin’.

        • david7134 says:

          This coming from a person who took a listed corporation from $60 and change to $1 and change, mostly because he knows nothing about stats, which is his job.

  3. H says:

    I get new tetanus vaccine shots every 5 years.

    • L.G.Brandon!, L.G.Brandon! says:

      Why? You sleep on a bed of rusty nails/

    • david7134 says:

      Just when we think Jeff has the prize for stupid, ridiculous, amazingly dumb statements, you rush in with the winner.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        dumbfuk davis who claims to be a physician doesn’t understand tetanus vaccination.

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