#TDS: House Report Says Trump Can Be Impeached For “Motives”

Democrats have been talking about impeaching Trump even before he was elected. That talk increased heavily the minute he was elected. And even more when he took office

Those are from inauguration day, and neither attempted to shoot down the unhinged nutters pushing it. Democrats have been looking for any excuse, and now

House Judiciary Committee Report: President Can Be Impeached for ‘Motives’ Without Breaking Law

The House Judiciary Committee released a report Saturday in which it argued that a president may be impeached for “illegitimate motives” even if his actions are “legally permissible.”

The 52-page report, written by 20 members of the staff for the Democratic majority, attempts to provide a legal and constitutional basis for the Democrats’ ongoing effort to impeach the president.

The report states: “The question is not whether the President’s conduct could have resulted from permissible motives. It is whether the President’s real reasons, the ones in his mind at the time, were legitimate.”

So, Democrats are mind readers, now? They know what Trump’s “real reasons” are? Nutballs.

The Breitbart article also notes 11 questionable features of the report, such as not using the testimony of their “legal scholars” from the other day, suggesting the report was already written. And

3. The report invents an absurdly broad standard for “bribery.” The report, backed by selective and misleading claims about the Framers’ intent, declares: “Impeachable bribery occurs when the President offers, solicits, or accepts something of personal value to influence his own official actions.” That standard would implicate every elected official in the United States, all of whom accept campaign contributions in return for policy promises.

Exactly.

4. The report cites radical left-wing activists committed to impeaching Trump. The report cites “scholars” such as Zephyr Teachout, who is on the advisory board of a group called “Impeach Trump Now.” It also cites Harvard’s Lawrence Tribe, who declared in December 2016 that Trump’s impeachment should “begin on Inauguration Day.” It ignores contrary views, even by left-wing sources like Cass Sunstein, whom it quotes selectively (see below).

Both of those headlines at the top are explicitly citing the Impeach Trump Now group.

7. The report bends over backwards to justify impeachment without any crime being committed. The report spends a great deal of space arguing that a president does not have to commit an actual crime to be impeached — a claim hotly debated among scholars. It notes that previous impeachments have included charges of “non-criminal” acts, but ignores the fact that no presidential impeachment has ever proceeded without any criminal acts alleged.

Congratulations on winning the 2020 election, Mr. Trump.

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38 Responses to “#TDS: House Report Says Trump Can Be Impeached For “Motives””

  1. Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

    All that needs to be said.

    https://tinyurl.com/uv7ecss

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  2. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

    • Kye says:

      So then all you need is to find the crime since you already have the man. The illegal coup continues. Treason is the season.

      Trump 2020 Then we get rid of the Traitors!

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Bribery, abuse of power, obstruction of justice…

        And yes, the goal is to get rid of the traitors. The GOP and Con movement is filled with them!

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        • alanstorm says:

          You have a lifetime supply of kool-aid, don’t you?

          None of those three have occurred, except in the (tiny) minds of liberal idiots (BIRM).

        • formwiz says:

          There is no crime called abuse of power on the books.

          If there were, every Democrat in history would have gone to jail.

          As for the others, hearsay is not admissible.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            What is your understanding of what “high crimes and misdemeanors” is in constitutional terms?

            There’s an instinct that it must be about crimes that are on the books, violations of statutes. That is exactly what it doesn’t mean, because the word high modifies both crimes and misdemeanors. High crimes and misdemeanors was a technical term that the Framers knew from procedures that the British used for impeachment, and high means governmental or in connection with, in our case, the presidency. High crimes and high misdemeanors are actions performed in an official capacity by a government official that violate the basic principles of the government and that therefore subject you to impeachment. They don’t have to be actual crimes that are on the statute books at all.

    • formwiz says:

      OK, you can copy and paste.

      Do you sit and roll over, too?

  3. formwiz says:

    All the report proves is that Fatty Nadless, much like Baghdadi Bunny, is a very poor loser.

  4. Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

    Guess they didn’t think this one through…

    https://tinyurl.com/vgq63y3

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  5. formwiz says:

    What is your understanding of what “high crimes and misdemeanors” is in constitutional terms?

    There’s an instinct that it must be about crimes that are on the books, violations of statutes. That is exactly what it doesn’t mean, because the word high modifies both crimes and misdemeanors. High crimes and misdemeanors was a technical term that the Framers knew from procedures that the British used for impeachment, and high means governmental or in connection with, in our case, the presidency. High crimes and high misdemeanors are actions performed in an official capacity by a government official that violate the basic principles of the government and that therefore subject you to impeachment. They don’t have to be actual crimes that are on the statute books at all.

    Who put out that one, Fatty Nadless or Sciff For Brains?

    Can’t wait to see them try to get that one through a court of law.

    treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

    Sounds like felonies and misdemeanors that would go through any court in the land. Thing is, there are at least 6 Demos who will cross party lines as things stand and a total of 31 in danger of getting the boot if they vote for it.

    So, if half the remaining 25 chicken out, the vote fails and all the looney excuse-making by a few crazed senior Congressmen who are due to lose their chairmanships makes no difference whatsoever.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Do you not understand the impeachment concept? It’s not about a court of law, it’s a specialized mechanism for getting rid of a president who is violating their duties.

      Recall the DOJ OLC ruling that a sitting President can’t be indicted. So how do you oust a President? Impeachment.

      This president solicited electoral help from Ukraine in exchange for foreign aid. He solicited electoral help from China.
      This president has enriched himself and his family solely based on his position.
      This president has obstructed justice in the case of the Russian electoral interference.
      His attacks on the press are impeachable.
      As are his attacks on private businesses, ““Why is the NFL getting massive tax breaks while at the same time disrespecting our Anthem, Flag and Country? Change tax law!”
      He encouraged the police to “rough up” arrestees.
      He encouraged the DOJ to investigate his political adversaries.
      He had his lawyer make illegal hush money payments to his lovers Karen McDougal and Stormy Daniels to aid his election.

      We believe trump’s bad acts are an extension of his corrupt, acquisitive nature and his lack of knowledge of America’s mores and customs, and were predictable from the outset. There’s no conclusive evidence that he is an “agent” of Russia, although if there is convincing evidence it’s likely that Russia holds it.

      • formwiz says:

        No, it’s not.

        What part of “shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of” eludes you.

        Recall the DOJ OLC ruling that a sitting President can’t be indicted. So how do you oust a President? Impeachment.

        What the DOJ says means nothing. The Constitution outlines how an officer of the government indicts, tries and convicts one of those officers.

        The House is the grand jury and the Senate is the trial. With all your vast experience before the bar, even you can grasp this.

        This president solicited electoral help from Ukraine in exchange for foreign aid. He solicited electoral help from China.

        He did no such thing He followed US law and pursued an investigation. Red China has nothing to do with it.

        This president has enriched himself and his family solely based on his position.

        So did the last one. Let’s try the Os.

        This president has obstructed justice in the case of the Russian electoral interference.

        Even his persecutor said there wasn’t enough evidence.

        His attacks on the press are impeachable.

        In what way?

        As are his attacks on private businesses, ““Why is the NFL getting massive tax breaks while at the same time disrespecting our Anthem, Flag and Country? Change tax law!”

        Last I looked, every President has been allowed to express an opinion.

        He encouraged the police to “rough up” arrestees.

        Citation?

        He encouraged the DOJ to investigate his political adversaries.

        One more time.

        He had his lawyer make illegal hush money payments to his lovers Karen McDougal and Stormy Daniels to aid his election.

        That’s the word of a convicted felon trying to get the Feds to go easy on him. Good luck getting that one through a court of law without corroborating evidence.

        We believe trump’s bad acts are an extension of his corrupt, acquisitive nature and his lack of knowledge of America’s mores and customs, and were predictable from the outset. There’s no conclusive evidence that he is an “agent” of Russia, although if there is convincing evidence it’s likely that Russia holds it.

        What you and your cartoon characters believe is irrelevant in a court of law and since you admit there’s no conclusive evidence that he is an “agent” of Russia, then you have no case.

        BTW His knowledge of America’s mores and customs are better than yours. He hates communism and loves his country. You are the last one to criticize him.

        Go home, molest somebody, beat your wife, and spend a few years in the Stony Lonesome.

        You’re wasting our time.

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          You’re obsessed with me. Just ignore me. You’re wasting your own time.

        • Zachriel says:

          formwiz: Red China has nothing to do with it.

          Trump called on an authoritarian communist state to investigate his political opponent, and did so days before the start of sensitive negotiations involving hundreds of billions of dollars in trade, saying, “China should start an investigation into the Bidens”.

          formwiz: Even his persecutor said there wasn’t enough evidence.

          The Mueller report detailed evidence for ten instances of obstruction.

          • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

            So where’s the crime?

            It isn’t like a U.S. President hasn’t done this sort of thing before.

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      • Kye says:

        When all you leftist pinkos fail to have President Trump removed from office and he wins 2020 by a landslide and the Republicans take back the House even with all your voter fraud and recounts are you Democrat/Communists going to start another civil war like you did when another great Republican President, Lincoln, took your slaves away?

        If you guys can’t deal with the peaceful transfer of power perhaps you all should move to China. I hear they have a way of dealing with upstarts. There, guys like you could force their deluded views on people and if they didn’t obey you could kill them. That is after all what you want, is it not?

        Instead if reorganizing to win the next election you assholes spent the last three years trying to overturn the last one. You are so brainwashed into your state cult you can’t accept a loss. That’s a true sign of despotism. So is wanting to disarm the people and curtail free speech as “hate speech”. You’re all a bunch of liars and phonies.

        Trump 2020 stop the Democrat/Communist civil war.

        • Zachriel says:

          Kye: If you guys can’t deal with the peaceful transfer of power perhaps you all should move to China.

          Impeachment is part of the peaceful process regarding power, per the U.S. Constitution. Impeachment and conviction only removes the one officer. The rest of the government remains intact, including the vice president who was elected by the Electoral College.

          • Doom and Gloom says:

            Ahh but Zach the left is talking about Impeaching Pence too so that Nancy Pelosi can become president.

            It’s not a pipe dream.

            25th Amendment: Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

            SO BOTH HOUSES have to approve Pence’s VP nomination. The scenario: Donald Trump gets impeached. Pence Gets impeached without his VP being confirmed means yet…… Nancy Pelosi becomes president because the house would not vote on anyone he nominated unless it was a far-left whacko Democrat.

            So now we see the true aim of the left.

            Chris Matthews: Shouldn’t Democrats be looking at impeaching Mike Pence too?

            AllahpunditPosted at 11:21 am on October 3, 2019

            House Democrats face question: Impeach Pence, or make him president?

            Impeachment inquiry turns to Vice President Mike Pence
            The document request is the first directed at Pence in the House’s impeachment inquiry. NBC

            Impeachment inquiry: Vice President Mike Pence refuses to turn over requested documents
            Maureen Groppe
            USA TODAY
            Maxine Waters vows to ‘get’ Pence once Trump impeached

            Mike Pence has been dragged into the Ukraine affair. That …

            Oct 03, 2019, · Mike Pence has been dragged into the Ukraine affair.

            On and on it goes. For you to even defend this is beyond the pale. Of course, we all know why Jeffery Epstein was murdered. So that the deep state can find 20 nice and ripe GOP senators and PERSUADE them to vote to remove Trump from office or face being exposed as child pornographers even though they most likely didn’t have anything to do with Epstein.

            I’m glad you hide behind a fake name and pretend to be self-important and know what’s happening in this country.

          • Zachriel says:

            Doom and Gloom: the left is talking about Impeaching Pence too

            That’s not going to happen.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            D&G,

            So many conspiracies, so little time…

            Do you have any evidence that Epstein was murdered?

            Your comment regarding a “fake name” is puzzling.

            Are you really named Doom And Gloom?

  6. Jl says:

    “I meant to do it but I didn’t…”. Arrest him for thought crimes…!”

    • Kye says:

      You guys gotta keep in mind all this is personal. Guys like Fredo, John and Zach don’t just hate President Trump with the heat of a thousand suns, they HATE US TOO, and they not only want to get rid of Trump but get rid of us as well. In fact the only thing standing in the way of us and a boxcar is Trump. As long as he controls the army they won’t make a move but the minute one of their leftist cronies takes command we are in for retaliation never before seen in America. We’ve seen how the left works. They ban your Facebook, web sites, blogs, and deplatform and de monetize your web presence. They doxx you and berate you in public, force you out of “restaurant, gas stations and wherever you see them” as the beautiful Maxine Waters once said. They fire you from your job and cut you off from earning a living. And that’s NOW when they’re not in power. Just wait till they ban ALL firearms, take over your healthcare and tell you if and how much you and you family can have. When they can levy a “carbon tax” on all you “deniers” out there and FORCE you to drive electric cars. Hell, banning toilets, light bulbs, plastic bags and straws was just a warm up to see how far they can push you. Once in power to will obey or you will die. That’s ALWAYS how they operate, in China, N. Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, and every despotic Mohammedan country in the world. Desposts gotta despot.

      Trump 2020 Stop the commies from taking America from the inside. Vote Freedom.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Dildo accuses liberals of hating him and others like him too, to the point of wanting to get rid of them!

        It’s projection, of course. Just another far-right conspiracy theory. It’s the far-right with their inherent violence who salivate at the chance to start oppressing commies and gays and Blacks and feminazis and Muslims and Jews and Mexican-looking folk and on and on.

        Why didn’t Commander in Chief, President Obama, and his brief majority institute the wholesale oppression/killing/deporting of conservatives? He punished the poor and working classes (including cons) with healthcare, fewer nukes, cleaner air and cleaner water. The horror!

        Glenn Beck et al had stories of interment camps in Idaho and Arkansas, boxcars ready to hall of (far) right-thinkers! Unmarked helicopters monitoring citizen movements. Lists of gun owners. The Deep State stockpiling billions of rounds of cartridges for the coming jackbooted pogrom.

        Dildo takes a page from his savior, DJ Trump, fabricating stories of coming abuse if Democrats win in 2020. No thinking human could believe this nonsense.

        He would be silly if not so dangerous.

        • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

          Well you still bought into the Russian collusion thingy even after the Mueller report found no evidence of such.

          Now which thinking human being could still believe in that?

          Go and whimper somewhere else, little sissybitch.

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        • formwiz says:

          It’s projection, of course. Just another far-right conspiracy theory. It’s the far-right with their inherent violence who salivate at the chance to start oppressing commies and gays and Blacks and feminazis and Muslims and Jews and Mexican-looking folk and on and on.

          No, you were the one drooling at the prospect of the Brown Wave sweeping over this country.

          Your side has the people taslking about getting rid of all whites, all Christians.

          Why didn’t Commander in Chief, President Obama, and his brief majority institute the wholesale oppression/killing/deporting of conservatives?

          Because they would have mutinied. This was the ignoramus who talked about “corpsemen”. you honestly think he had the loyalty of the Armed Forces?

          He punished the poor and working classes (including cons) with healthcare, fewer nukes, cleaner air and cleaner water.

          Funny how it was the working classses who lined up behind Sarah Palin when she started talking about death panels. Funny how the Democrat Congress was voted out as soon as they passed it (now there’s a visual) so we could see it.

          And by cleaner air and cleaner water do you mean the Animas River?

          Glenn Beck et al had stories of interment camps in Idaho and Arkansas, boxcars ready to hall of (far) right-thinkers! Unmarked helicopters monitoring citizen movements. Lists of gun owners. The Deep State stockpiling billions of rounds of cartridges for the coming jackbooted pogrom.

          Funny you bring that up.

          Didn’t all the Demos talk about how they were ready to rule? Not govern, but rule.

          How’s ’bout the guy who likened the Choom Gang to the Roman Army going into a province and crucifying a few hundred people as an example?

          Didn’t just about every Federal agency get carloads of automatic weapons and ammo in case the populace objected?

          Sounds like Beck (a jerk IMHO) might have been right.

          And the word is “haul”.

          Dildo takes a page from his savior, DJ Trump, fabricating stories of coming abuse if Democrats win in 2020. No thinking human could believe this nonsense.

          He would be silly if not so dangerous.

          The only dildo here is the one you stick up your ass because the cops are watching out for the little kids.

  7. Kye says:

    One of my favorite commenters posted this germane ditty:

    steveaz

    It’s been clear for some time that the Democrat Party (and not a few Republican partisans) represents foreign interests over American ones. Liberal immigration from foreign lands, post-national pretenses, a global tax on Americans’ energy use (aka Climate Change Action), a bleed-out of American jobs to foreign competitors, promiscuous courting of foreign student applicants for university admissions that rightly belong to American citizens first, and generous foreign aid regimes are just a few of their promised give-aways to their foreign clients.

    And, after twenty-plus years of taking foreign bribes from some very tough people, they now have to deliver. The Arabs, Russians and Iranians play for keeps, and expect their nefarious agendas to be carried out. In this light, Pelosi’s impeachment gambit is not designed for American ears; it is the Democrats’ publicized peal to their foreign clients that “We are doing all we can to deliver.” It is their desperate last-ditch effort to ward off their external creditors who, if the gambit does not work, will demand their heads in repayment.

    The Democrats’ treasons are numerous, as, like Yassir Arafat, they present one face to foreign audiences and another one to American audiences. All of which makes their pending accusation of treason against Trump all the more transparent: they are simply accusing him of what they have been doing for at least a quarter of a century.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Just another right-wing conspiracy theory. And silly at that.

      It is trump in bed with Russia; trump who asked Ukraine for a “favor” in exchange for aid; trump who has financial ties with tyrannical regimes; trump who excuses every Saudi excess, even rewarding them with billions of aid; trump who sacrificed the Kurds to appease Turkey… and it’s the GOP who finds these inappropriate foreign entanglements acceptable.

      The US donor class (Dems and Repubs) HAVE sold out the US working classes, partly to foreigners but mostly to wealthy Americans/corporations.

      By the way, our foreign aid is about 1% of our budget. Unless you count our troops around the world.

      • formwiz says:

        Just another right-wing conspiracy theory. And silly at that.

        That’s what the Hildabeast said.

        And she lost, too.

        It is trump in bed with Russia; trump who asked Ukraine for a “favor” in exchange for aid; trump who has financial ties with tyrannical regimes; trump who excuses every Saudi excess, even rewarding them with billions of aid; trump who sacrificed the Kurds to appease Turkey… and it’s the GOP who finds these inappropriate foreign entanglements acceptable.

        Because they’re perfectly acceptable and have yet to be proven anywhere but in the psychotic ravings of the Left.

        BTW Anybody hear of Kurds being massacred?

        And Trump is only in bed with Melania. Bolshevik Bunny is stuck with Pelosi Galore, Hell’s Harem, Occasional Cortex, and Kinky Katie Hill.

        The US donor class (Dems and Repubs) HAVE sold out the US working classes, partly to foreigners but mostly to wealthy Americans/corporations.

        Workers of the World, Unite!

        You have nothing to lose but your brains.

        By the way, our foreign aid is about 1% of our budget. Unless you count our troops around the world

        And most of that 1% has gone in the pockets of the same party bosses Hypocrite Hare defends.

  8. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    If you guys represent Trump’s best defense, he’ll end up in prison.

    • formwiz says:

      Not likely.

      Your ass gets kicked on an almost hourly basis.

      Right now, the Demos will be likely to get the clown car through the floor vote.

  9. Kye says:

    Hey Fredo, these are your comrades not ours. You guys have been murdering people for a century in the Great Leap to Next Tuesday where we’re all punished for not being commies like YOU! Aren’t these beautiful people?

    https://youtu.be/FKYS3dj-XqM

  10. formwiz says:

    Somebody tell Hypocrite Hare slavery was practiced by all races until white folks put an end to it. It was his beloved “Muslims” who sold West Africans to the slavers.

    And nobody killed more people than the Chinese Communists. As many as 125 million.

    We understand that you’re frightened, but as we read through the Constitution we can find no legal remedy to your discomfort. We may be wrong but we suspect you would prefer a strongman President who will use extralegal means to reduce the perceived “threats” to white people, i.e., the loss of privilege or special rights.

    Bolshevik Bunny is channelling his own lust for a Communist tyrant who will destroy all those he dislikes – Jews, Catholics, Protestants, white people, Orientals; all those he thinks stand in the way of his success (actually, he could be the last living being on earth and he’d still be a failure).

    In practical terms, since we’re at or near full employment and some occupations are begging for workers, where will they come from? What we know is that people at the bottom of the economic ladder, e.g., immigrants, will work harder at undesirable jobs for less pay to make it in America. Roofers, gardeners, migrant fruit and vegetable workers, abattoir workers, kitchen and hotel workers, golf course maintenance…

    As usual, he knows nothing of how things work and assumes we need immigrants for all those low-paying jobs. The days of those fleeing Europe or Asia to escape poverty are long over. It’s the well-off who often come here because the government and the welfare system are so oppressive. Freedom is the great lure and has been for a long time.

    Your great fear stems from US Hispanics reproducing faster than Caucasians, but how do you solve that? Will you deport citizen Hispanics?

    Actually, that’s his great fear. Black America is exterminating itself because it listened to the Leftists who pushed abortion for a half century and now Hispanics are the largest minority group, with blacks losing ground.

    Any concerns about Hispanics seem to be as ill-informed as Bolshevik Bunny is on almost everything else. According to Pew Research, hardly a Left-wing outfit, Hispanics tend to assimilate after 2 or 3 generations, much like the Europeans did.

    And how does your fear today differ from past fears of Irish, Jews, Catholics, Italians, Greeks, Germans, Japanese etc?

    The people who came in other times wanted to be Americans, not to leech off the system while they hated the people here, so the question really is how does Jeffery L Keene’s fears of all the Irish, Jews, Catholics, Italians, Greeks, Germans, Japanese, etc., who refuse tohate this country and see how much this country has done for them, much like another son of immigrants who grew up to be President.

    Bolshevik Bunny hates him the most.

    PS Even the Moslems are changing in this country. As many as a quarter, mostly young people and large numbers of women are falling away from the faith because here they find freedom and a better way than living in the 7th century. Young women, especially, don’t need a special law passed for them to drive (HBO (of all things) has a fascinating little documentary about how women can’t wait to drive even in Saudi Arabia) and don’t have to sit still and take a repressive life of beating and abuse.

    Looks like that Brown Wave turned out to be a mud puddle.

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