Question: Is Led Zeppelin A Heavy Metal Band?

A coworker, much younger than me, started this debate with me earlier today. It’s an interesting question. Is Zeppelin really a heavy metal group? Consider: seemingly half their songs feature acoustic guitar. Many are sedate, more plain rock. When you compare them to the other early metal groups, like Deep Purple, and the group considered really the father of metal, Black Sabbath, they just do not seem to cut it.

Consider other early metal bands. The Scorpions (formed 1965). UFO (1969). Uriah Heep (69). Vanilla Fudge (67). Twisted Sister (1972, if you can believe it). Triumph (75). Saxon (76). Moterhead (75). Elf (67). So many others I could name. And, of course, Judas Priest (1969) and Iron Maiden (1975). There’s absolutely no doubt about their metal pedigrees, is there?

Now, would you call Jimmy Hendrix “heavy metal”? How about Cream? How about Blue Oyster Cult? Have you listened to their music other than their well known hits? Much like Rush, Yes, Pink Floyd, they seem much more of a Progressive Rock band. Which, in retrospect, is what Zeppelin seems like.

Buuuuuuuuut, let’s go back in the way back machine. At the time, despite lots of the acoustic and softer sounds, the people of the time considered Zeppelin heavy metal, because it was still a typically heavier sound than the sounds of the day. Much like they considered Cream and Hendrix.

It’s not because they used a lot of distortion for the guitars. The Who used distortion. So did the Stones and the Beatles. So did The Band. Creedence Clearwater Revival. No one mistakes them for a metal band, right? Kiss, though, is considered metal for the time, though I always thought them more of a straight rock group, or more of a hard rock group. Kinda like how AC/DC is more hard rock, than metal. At least to me.

Consider this, from a Princeton article

Heavy metal (often referred to simply as metal) is a genre of rock music[1] that developed in between 1968 and 1974 , largely in the United Kingdom and the United States.[2] With roots in blues-rock and psychedelic rock, the bands that created heavy metal developed a thick, massive sound, characterized by highly amplified distortion, extended guitar solos, emphatic beats, and overall loudness. Heavy metal lyrics and performance styles are generally associated with masculinity and machismo.[3]

The first heavy metal bands such as Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and Deep Purple attracted large audiences, though they were often critically reviled, a status common throughout the history of the genre. In the mid-1970s Judas Priest helped spur the genre’s evolution by discarding much of its blues influence; Motörheadintroduced a punk rock sensibility and an increasing emphasis on speed. Bands in the New Wave of British Heavy Metal such as Iron Maiden followed in a similar vein. Before the end of the decade, heavy metal had attracted a worldwide following of fans known as “metalheads” or “headbangers“.

Extended solos? Check. Thick, massive sounds? At times, yeah, especially when you consider John Bonham on drums and John Paul Jones on bass. Loudness? Yup.

As a sidebar, I’m not sure about the masculinity and machismo, though, for all. Sure, it shows up, but lots are about love, from a metal POV. And other things. Consider Saxon’s Princess Of the Night. It’s about a train. Iron Maiden has used lots of Edgar Allen Poe, religious elements, and, hey, took the poem Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner and made it an 8 minute song!

Anyhow, most of the Princeton article leads to Wikipedia, which has its uses, and notes

Heavy metal is traditionally characterized by loud distorted guitars, emphatic rhythms, dense bass-and-drum sound, and vigorous vocals. Metal subgenres variously emphasize, alter, or omit one or more of these attributes. New York Times critic Jon Pareles writes, “In the taxonomy of popular music, heavy metal is a major subspecies of hard-rock—the breed with less syncopation, less blues, more showmanship and more brute force.”[6] The typical band lineup includes a drummer, a bassist, a rhythm guitarist, a lead guitarist, and a singer, who may or may not be an instrumentalist. Keyboard instruments are sometimes used to enhance the fullness of the sound.[7]

Does that fit Zeppelin to a tee? Except for the “less blues” thing. Really, lots of the early metal bands continued to use blues as a base. It really wasn’t till Ozzy Osbourne brought in Randy Rhodes, who truly brought classical into the songs, that metal exploded towards other forms. Though Richie Blackmore used some classic during his Rainbow and Deep Purple days. Dude is stone cold awesome on a classical guitar.

Finally, again, the people at the time considered Zeppelin a heavy metal band. And, they were definitely a good show. And virtually ever band after them should be thanking them (and their manager) for creating a situation where the bands get paid a good chunk of the door receipts and making a lot of money. But, that’s a different story.

What’s your take?

BTW, one thing I forgot, this turned into a rather larger conversation at work (we have a lot of downtime mid-morning), and one young whippersnapper mentioned that Zep had to be metal, because the Heavy Metal soundtrack featured Stevie Nicks and Devo. But, the problem with that, is that the movie was based on the magazine Heavy Metal, which was not about the music, but the gothic, graphic, erotic, fantasy/scifi themes. Don Felder had two awesome songs (he was a lead guitar player for The Eagles), not metal.

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If All You See…

…is an evil hot dog, which causes obesity which causes 20 feet of sea rise, cooked on an evil grill, you might just be a Warmist

The blog of the day is American Clarion, with a post going inside the mind of a Democrat voter.

No theme this week, just clearing out the IAYS folder.

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NY Times Super Unhappy, says “Cancel The Midterms”

Why would David Schanzer and Jay Sullivan want to do this? (via Right Wing News)

Cancel The Midterms

By Tuesday night about 90 million Americans will have cast ballots in an election that’s almost certain to create greater partisan divisions, increase gridlock and render governance of our complex nation even more difficult. Ninety million sounds like a lot, but that means that less than 40 percent of the electorate will bother to vote, even though candidates, advocacy groups and shadowy “super PACs” will have spent more than $1 billion to air more than two million ads to influence the election.

There was a time when midterm elections made sense — at our nation’s founding, the Constitution represented a new form of republican government, and it was important for at least one body of Congress to be closely accountable to the people. But especially at a time when Americans’ confidence in the ability of their government to address pressing concerns is at a record low, two-year House terms no longer make any sense. We should get rid of federal midterm elections entirely.

There are few offices, at any level of government, with two-year terms. Here in Durham, we elect members of the school board and the county sheriff to terms that are double that length. Moreover, Twitter, ubiquitous video cameras, 24-hour cable news and a host of other technologies provide a level of hyper-accountability the framers could not possibly have imagined. In the modern age, we do not need an election every two years to communicate voters’ desires to their elected officials.

But the two-year cycle isn’t just unnecessary; it’s harmful to American politics.

Interesting. I wonder if they felt this way in 2006, when Democrats were on their way to a massive victory?

What this is about goes without saying,  but I will anyhow: Dems are passed off that they’re going to lose. They say they love democracy, but,  at the end of the day, they only like it when they win. If not,  things Must Be Stopped. And they wonder why Progressives are linked with fascism.

As far as weakening the President,  we’ll,  see,  there’s this thing called separation of powers. The president is not a king. Katie Maguire at RWN wrote

Excuse me, we live in a democracy. The exact reasons stated for us NOT to have midterms is why we should. If a president is not doing his job, or advancing agendas the American public isn’t interested in, we should be able to elect officials that can act our behalf to stop that president. This isn’t about a lack of respect, or god forbid the race card, by claiming midterm elections are “whiter”- this is about having rights and living in a free nation.

The 2 year cycle allows for consequences to elected officials.

Allahpundit has some deep observations on the subject.

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Vox: How to stop global warming, in 7 steps or something

And,  as usual,  something is missing. The article by hyper-alarmist Brad Plumer is referencing the silly report release from the highly politicized and far left IPCC. I’m skipping right to their “steps”

(Vox) 1) Right now, the world is failing badly at its climate goals

That’s step one? Really? Maybe they wouldn’t be failing if warmists would practice what they preach.

2) Hitting those goals will require sharp emissions cuts — and soon

Not so much a step as a whine.

3) Cutting emissions will require a massive technological push

The primary way they think this could be done is through… You got it…. a carbon tax. At least it resembles a “step”.

4) We’d also likely need to pull carbon out of the atmosphere

Except,   those technologies are largely imaginary, which even the IPCC admits.

5) Cutting emissions will cost us — but so will global warming

That old canard of Hotcoldwetdry killing economies. Funny how the economic activity during periods of rising temperatures have actually been very good for humanity.

6) Countries will have to start working together for a change

How’d that work out with The Kyoto Protocol? Almost no signatory countries came close to their goals.

7) Even if we cut emissions, we’ll still need to adapt to a hotter world

And then we’ll have to adapt to a cooler world when another Holocene cool period kicks in.

Obviously, any step that includes Believers getting off their duffs, giving up on spreading awareness, and walking the talk was completely avoided. As usual.

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Whew: Duke Hospital patient tests negative for Ebola

Some good news

(WRAL) Preliminary test results on a Duke University Hospital patient who developed a fever Sunday after recently returning from Liberia have come back negative for Ebola, state health officials said Monday morning.

There are still more tests to perform, hopefully they are all negative.

One problematic issue is the question of how many people will get this info? I saw it last night in the breaking news scroller during the Sunday night football game on NBC. I think you had the same on other stations. Will the media make the same attempt to disseminate this?

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UN IPCC: All Use Of Fossil Fuels Needs To Stop To Save The Climate

As expected, the report is continuing the theme of apocalyptic doom

(Fox News) Climate change is happening, it’s almost entirely man’s fault and limiting its impacts may require reducing greenhouse gas emissions to zero this century, the U.N.’s panel on climate science said Sunday.

The fourth and final volume of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s giant climate assessment didn’t offer any surprises, nor was it expected to since it combined the findings of three earlier reports released in the past 13 months.

But it underlined the scope of the climate challenge in stark terms. Emissions, mainly from the burning of fossil fuels, may need to drop to zero by the end of this century for the world to have a decent chance of keeping the temperature rise below a level that many consider dangerous. Failure to do so, which could require deployment of technologies that suck greenhouse gases out of the atmosphere, could lock the world on a trajectory with “irreversible” impacts on people and the environment, the report said. Some impacts are already being observed, including rising sea levels, a warmer and more acidic ocean, melting glaciers and Arctic sea ice and more frequent and intense heat waves.

There are your marching orders, Warmists! You need to give up all use of fossil fuels. Which is an interesting assessment, considering how often Warmists themselves use fossil fuels, not to mention how much they use. Since fossil fuels are so evil, will the UN hold their 2014 COP (Conference on the Parties) via Skype, Go To Meeting, or something similar? Because getting 10K or so people to Lima, Peru, will use quite a bit of fossil fuels, wouldn’t you say?

Anyhow, as far as all this goes, Bob Tisdale writes

Anthony Watts’s post Meh, same old ‘gloom and doom’ from the IPCC over new climate report at WattsUpWithThat prompted this one. I started to write a comment on that thread that began with, The IPCC is nothing more than a… and I went on from there, trying with some success to limit my word count. But I didn’t post it. I figured it would make for a great topic of discussion all by itself, with everyone adding their own continuation to that preface.

So to start the ball rolling, here’s what I came up with.

The IPCC is nothing more than a report-writing entity:

  1. that was created by politicians for use by politicians to achieve an political-agenda-driven goal
  2. that relies on politician-financed climate models that were designed, and continue to operate, with the single-minded intent of showing bad things will happen in the future if we continue to consume fossil fuels.

The IPCC and their reports provide no value to anyone other than the politicians who created that body.

He goes on to ask people to continue he “The IPCC is nothing more than a…” meme. I don’t have much more to add, because he is on the money, except that I’d not that this is about a far far left Progressive (nice fascist) political-agenda-driven goal. I’d also note that the IPCC is a hypocritical organization which use vast amounts of energy and fossil fuels to tell Other People how to live their lives, preferably by legislative force.

Anyhow, if you don’t like the Fox News article, which actually came from the Associate Press, how about the BBC?

Fossil fuels should be phased out by 2100 says IPCC

The unrestricted use of fossil fuels should be phased out by 2100 if the world is to avoid dangerous climate change, a UN-backed expert panel says.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says in a stark report that most of the world’s electricity can – and must – be produced from low-carbon sources by 2050.

Fortunately, the IPCC has granted a 100 year reprieve from doom. Originally, they were claiming doom by 2000.

Will all the leftist news outlets hyping the IPCC report give up their own use of fossil fuels? Will Warmists? Will the UN IPCC? Good luck with that.

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Raleigh N&O Endorses Kay Hagan Because…..She’s Not Thom Tillis

Other than being a Democrat and not Thom Tillis, the Raleigh N&O editorial board has a tough time providing a reason to vote for her. I’m going to blow by the “outside money” bit, which I somewhat agree with, when it comes to money from outside NC, and they do not mention the huge amounts spent on Kay, and get to the meat

(Raleigh N&O) But at the end of the TV blitz is an election. Voters will have to choose. Our choice is Kay Hagan.We wish we could say the senator earned our support by her advocacy, but this race full of money has been bereft of real issues, ideas or solutions. Hagan has made the race less about governing the nation and more about Tillis’ role in shaping the dismal record of the state legislature.

They have a good point: what policies, exactly, has Hagan run on? The N&O apparently had a hard time finding any. That “dismal record of the state legislature”? The People of NC wanted those policies passed. Things like Castle Doctrine, ie, Stand Your Ground. Expansion of gun rights. Tax decreases. And so on.

Tillis has run mostly against President Obama. When he does focus on his actual opponent, he talks about what she hasn’t done. In the contest’s second debate, he asked of Hagan, “Tell me what you’re proud of. Tell me what you’ve done. Tell me the promises you’ve fulfilled. That’s what this election’s about.”

Kay wasn’t able to answer. Because she votes with Obama 96% of the time. 99% in 2014. Tillis has noted the teacher pay increases and the increases to education, which, of course, Kay and her backers lie and say it was a decrease.

But beyond the vacuous ads and the candidates’ talking points, this race really is about something. Indeed, it’s about two things.

• No. 1, it’s about keeping a Democratic majority in the U.S. Senate. A Republican takeover will intensify the standoff between the president and congressional Republicans. It will generate efforts to cut off funding and produce bills booby-trapped against vetoes. That would be bad for government, bad for the economy and bad for a nation already discouraged by the slowness of the economic recovery and Congress’ lack of action.

And that’s it right there. The N&O doesn’t even proclaim impartiality, but are advocates for Democrats. Furthermore, the fail to note the large amount of poison-pill bills pushed in the Democrat controlled Senate. Going further, while the GOP controlled Congress would surely pass some booby trapped bills (that’s politics, people), what they really mean is legislation that the majority favors, while Obama opposes it.

Tillis’ idea of what government should do is that it should do less. “It’s very simple: Government needs to get out of the way,” he said in the second debate.

On the flip side, Hagan and the N&O think the government should be even more involved in our lives. Way more involved. Immensely involved.

The truth is that Hagan – often to the frustration of liberals – is a middle-of-the-road type. And she’s strong in two areas that Republicans favor and that are important for North Carolina’s economy: the military and banking. As a member of the Senate’s Committee on Armed Services, she has been a strong advocate for the state’s military bases and veterans. As a member of the Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs and a former employee of North Carolina National Bank, a predecessor of Charlotte-based Bank of America, she understands the needs of the banking industry but also stands up for consumers.

Hey, they finally say something positive about Hagan! Hooray. Near the end of the editorial. And, in fairness, she has been a good proponent of the military. But, that’s it. There’s nothing else, except that she’s a supposed moderate. Who votes with Obama 96% of the time. This is all about supporting Democrats. The N&O has almost never supported a Republicans. Kay Hagan has done almost nothing for North Carolina during her six years in office. She enthusiastically voted for the Stimulus (which she benefited from) and Obamacare, among other pieces of legislation, which were against the wishes of the People of NC.

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And Now We Have A Possible Ebola Case In North Carolina

Hey, remember when Obama said Ebola won’t make it to America? And how just a few days ago he continued to say that travel bans were silly? Because keeping people who potentially have a disease with a 60% mortality rate, which causes your insides to liquify, out of the country is just dumb, right?

(WRAL)  The North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services is monitoring a patient at Duke Unversity Hospital who traveled from Liberia and has developed a fever.

Officials said the patient departed Liberia and arrived Friday at Newark (NJ) Liberty International Airport, which is one of five airports in the nation that has begun screening travelers from Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone for fever and other signs of illness linked to the Ebola virus.

This will hopefully turn out to be nothing. But, we continue to see these potential cases pop up, like the one in Oregon. Where the person came from Liberia, too. And if either of these people, if not both, end up testing positive for Ebola, you have to wonder how many people they came into contact during their time here in the States. How many people in airports, who can then take the disease with them to other areas of the country, potentially exposing other people.

BTW, with two days to go, this will certainly not help Kay Hagan or any other North Carolina Democrats who were against travel bans, some of whom are parsing their beliefs due to polls.

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If All You See…

…is heavy extreme rain created by people eating too much food on game day, you might just be a Warmist

The blog of the day is Free North Carolina, with a post on an unfortunate headline with Bill Clinton and Kay Hagan.

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Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup

Patriotic Pinup Halloween

Happy Sunday! Another gorgeous global warming caused cold day in America. Yes, Halloween was Sunday, and I had a Halloween pinup last Sunday, but, hey, we need one more. Not sure who painted this one.

What is happening in Ye Olde Blogosphere? The Fine 15

  1. Scared Monkeys notes Jodi Ernst taking a big lead
  2. Allen B. West celebrates being number 2 on a CAIR list
  3. American Power notes that the GOP has good candidates, and Dems don’t like it!
  4. Bookwork Room notes Ocare has gone from bad to worse
  5. Steve Eggleston (Da Tech Guy) wants to end daylight savings time permanently
  6. Flopping Aces discusses how to lose a war
  7. House Of Eratosthenes covers the era of “you can’t tell me what to do”
  8. Joshupundit notes Dems mob tactics
  9. Jammie Wearing Fools covers the latest stupidity from Al Gore
  10. Just One Minute has scary marijuana science
  11. Lady Liberty 1885 has NC media memory holing Kay Hagan issues
  12. Raised On Hoecakes covers more really stupid people
  13. Public Secrets has data on the decrease in violent tornadoes
  14. Nice Deb discusses a criminal organization masquerading as a political party
  15. And last, but not least, Pam Geller notes that 19 of the 20 worst nations for women are Muslim ones

As always, the full set of pinups can be seen in the Patriotic Pinup category, or over at my Gallery page. While we are on pinups, since it is that time of year, have you gotten your “Pinups for Vets” calendar yet? And don’t forget to check out what I declare to be our War on Women Rule 5 and linky luv posts and things that interest me

Anyone else have a link or hotty-fest going on? Let me know so I can add you to the list. (BTW, since someone asked, the reason I leave links for the previous week up (or you might see a *) is because they are place holders for later in the day or for next weeks. Easier than rewriting all the time. Also, the listing order has to do with how they are added over time, not how good a post is. I just copy and paste from the previous week, then edit. If you see one of the *’s, go ahead and check out the blog anyhow, see if there is an update. I cannot update with my Android during the day.

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