Your Fault: Ocean Currents Speeding Up From Hotcoldwetdry

Wait, didn’t they tell us that the ocean currents were all slowing down? I mean, like, just tell us this, and that it would lead to an ice age like in the movie The Day After Tomorrow?

The slowing down of ocean currents could have a devastating effect on our climate

Atlantic Ocean circulation is the weakest in at least 1,600 years, study finds – here’s what that means for the climate

The Gulf Stream is slowing to a ‘tipping point’ and could disappear

A Major Ocean Current Is at Its Weakest Point in 1,000 Years

There are plenty more links, but, I used ones from last year. Except for that last one, which is from April of 2022

Ocean currents are accelerating due to climate change, UCSD study says

new study out of UCSD determined climate change is responsible for altering global ocean currents, making them faster and thinner. The study was led by researchers out of Scripps Institution of Oceanography at UC San Diego.

The research involved running computer model data amid a rising surface temperature alongside other variables. Shang-Ping Xie, a Professor of Climate Science at UCSD’s Scripps Institution of Oceanography, says his team is now focused on the global and local implications and effects of this conclusion. “We were very surprised to see there is a consistent global-wide surface ocean current acceleration as we heat the ocean from the surface,” Xie told CBS 8. “As a scientist, the surprising part of our research is the global nature of this current acceleration. That indicates the results are quite robust and consistent with our physical laws.”

You could pretty much stop at computer model data.

The new data could suggest a harsh future for our oceans, with currents affecting the amount of photosynthesis taking place, nutrients available to marine life, and potentially even more difficult migratory patterns for wildlife. “The ocean currents speed up and therefore the horizontal and vertical distribution of nutrients is going to change accordingly,” said Xie. “So that’s going to affect the distribution and activity of photosynthesis and therefore the biological activity overall.”

Did they gather lots and lots of data to put this study together, check many points around the globe, or, just a sliver and run it through the computer?

Last month the study was published and is now helping to resolve an ongoing debate on the cause of an increase in ocean currents. Scientists have often attributed the acceleration to wind, but this new study found global warming as a primary culprit.

Oh, the same month another study said the ocean currents were slowing down?

The team says the next step will be determining the extent of damage that can occur due to the change in speed. The full study can be found in the journal Nature and Science Advances.

I’d think the first thing they would need to do is to verify their study, not come out with doom and gloom.

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9 Responses to “Your Fault: Ocean Currents Speeding Up From Hotcoldwetdry”

  1. drowningpuppies says:

    Another, um… conclusion from another computer model.
    There you have it, the science is settled.
    Again. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_scratch.gif

    #LGBFJB
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  2. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Those scientists are much more stupider than conservabloggers!

    from the paper:

    The Southern Ocean (>30°?S) has taken up a large amount of anthropogenic heat north of the Subantarctic Front (SAF) of the Antarctic Circumpolar Current (ACC). Poor sampling before the 1990s and decadal variability have heretofore masked the ocean’s dynamic response to this warming. Here we use the lengthening satellite altimetry and Argo float records to show robust acceleration of zonally averaged Southern Ocean zonal flow at 48°?S–58°?S. This acceleration is reproduced in a hierarchy of climate models, including an ocean-eddy-resolving model. Anthropogenic ocean warming is the dominant driver, as large (small) heat gain in the downwelling (upwelling) regime north (south) of the SAF causes zonal acceleration on the northern flank of the ACC and adjacent subtropics due to increased baroclinicity; strengthened wind stress is of secondary importance.

    So the scientists took measurements and compared their results to models, but Mx Teach finds that to be an affront to all things holy!! LOL.

    And of course they were not studying ALL the globes ocean currents were they? Nope. They were looking specifically at the Southern Ocean which they claimed had previously been poorly sampled.

    • James Lewis says:

      Dearest Elwood:

      “The research involved running computer model data…..”

      “Instead, the climate models are “tuned” to not produce natural climate change. If a 100-year run of the model produces change, the model is adjusted to removed the “drift”. The models do not produce global energy balance from “first physical principles”, because none of the processes controlling that balance are known to sufficient accuracy. Instead, the models are “fudged” to produce energy balance, based upon the modelers’ assumption of no natural climate change. Then, the models are used as “proof” that only increasing CO2 has caused recent warming.”
      https://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-101/

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Our Dearest James Lewis,

        Please stay on task!

        Running and re-running the piece from Dr Spencer is not on point and not persuasive. To save yourself copy and paste time you might just type “Spencer” for you next canned response. It will have the same efficacy.

        The scientists used actual data note: we use the lengthening satellite altimetry and Argo float records to show robust acceleration of zonally averaged Southern Ocean zonal flow

        You can look up “satellite altimetry” and “Argo float” on your own.

        Do you find fault with the conclusion that the Southern Ocean currents have increased? Let’s discuss. You could be right!!

        Cheers,

        Elwood

        • James Lewis says:

          Dearest Elwood:

          “This acceleration is reproduced in a hierarchy of climate models, including an ocean-eddy-resolving model.”

          “Instead, the models are “fudged” to produce energy balance, based upon the modelers’ assumption of no natural climate change.”

          Facts be facts.

          • Elwood P. dOwd says:

            Sweetest James Lewis,

            Please google the meaning of “reproduced”, and type “Spencer” going forward.

            Best wishes,

            Elwood

  3. david7134 says:

    James,
    There is little sense in arguing with Jeff about the climate hoax. He does not understand any aspect of the various arguments and his so called knowledge is limited to internet web sites. Jeff does not recognize the production of CO2 from the earth, only fossil fuels. That is making the leap to actually thinking CO2 does anything.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      david porter,

      You daily display even less knowledge than I gave you credit for.

      Do they not teach physics or chemistry in Louisiana?

      Professor Arrhenius made the key discoveries over a century ago which may have been after you graduated.

  4. Doom and Gloom says:

    Shang-Ping Xie, a Professor of Climate Science at UCSD’s Scripps Institution of Oceanography, says his team is now focused on the global and local implications and effects of this conclusion.

    SHANG PING XIE………..all you need to know.

    Education

    D.Sc., Tohoku University, Japan, 1991
    M.Sc., Tohoku University, Japan, 1988
    Dalian College of Foreign Languages, China, 1984-85
    B.Sc., Shandong College of Oceanography, China, 1984

    Honors

    China Ministry of Education Oversea Scholarship, 1985-1986

    To be fair there are many honors from Japan and the USA included here but as you can see he starts out as a young idealist given to us by the CHINESE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT who then writes dozens of papers telling us how evil fossil fuels are.

    Meanwhile, his home country of CHINA pollutes the world into oblivion and builds coal plants around the world in poor countries, BUYING THEIR ALLEGIANCE.

    DOWD DISPLAYS even less knowledge then I give him credit for which is hard to do since I think Dowd is a Chinese communist agent BOT sent to this website to pound out a 100-200 posts a day discrediting anyone who would speak out against anything that has a chance at undermining the USA’s ability to push back against attacks from within.

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