Is anyone really surprised?
More than 600 people have been arrested at a demonstration against climate change in Copenhagen today.
What started as a peaceful demonstration calling for action on climate change, descended into rioting as hundreds of masked youths threw bricks and smashed windows in the Danish capital.
Police in riot gear arrested between 600 and 700 people, who were cuffed and forced to the ground, before being taken away in vans.
Nope, not surprised.
The scenes were in stark contrast to the rest of the colourful demonstration, which had progressed peacefully.
Except for the violence.
A police officer received minor injuries when he was hit by a rock thrown from the group and one protester was injured by fireworks, police said.
Downtown Copenhagen was in virtual lockdown Saturday with thousands of police deployed or on standby and helicopters hovering overhead.
The authorities had already deported two Britons for vandalism and spitting on a police officer and a Frenchman for breaching firearms laws, police commissioner Lars Christian Borg told AFP.
Sounds pretty much like just about every left side demonstration. Violence is bound to break out.
Police put the demonstration at about 30,000, some left leaning media are putting it at anywhere from 100K-300K. By tomorrow, the media will probably be reporting half a million.
Can you imagine the smell with all these far left nutters around wearing their weirdo apparel and rarely showering?
Future Serfs, calling for their elitist masters to take over.
And, I should add: not even aware they are screwing themselves.
geo-global-warming-nazis…
Trish~ Not yet. The next gen, possibly. What we have here is people with nose rings, being led.
Hey, ran across an interesting article while looking for an answer to something else climate related. Check out: http://nzclimatescience.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=471&Itemid=1
So, when do the “youths” start to burn cars in the street?
I’m surprised they haven’t started already, Joat.
Teach- great article!
Otter, they may not be nazis yet, but they are scary leftists, armed with limited knowledge of what they believe (AGW) is their job to promote by force! That’s enough to worry me!
All,
I read throught the “Scientific Evidence” section of the link Teach posted, and I can tell you that almost every single one of the points mentioned is incorrect. The only one that might be right is the one about Kilimanjaro. I could provide a rebuttal to each and every one. This is serious. The points are in direct opposition to what the science tells us about our climate, and in some cases, were total fabrications.
Would anyone be interested in seeing the other side of the argument?
Reasic, why do you do this to yourself? I know you are a true believer, and for that I respect you, and am assured that you cannot be swayed. But I am a true non-believer, in as much as I don’t believe we are responsible for climate change. I do support responsible use of energy, clean industry etc, in the name of the planet. But I don’t think the hysteria that has engulfed the AGW community is healthy for the world, and in fact is very detrimental.
Also, we have produced in opposition as many articles, and as many experts as you have, but ours are never “real scientists”
or “real climatologists” in your view.
So just for the fun of it here’s another article!
http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2009/12/1037
William Happer is the Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics at Princeton University. From 1991 to 1993 he served as director of the Office of Energy Research in the U.S. Department of Energy. This paper was adapted from testimony given before the U.S. Senate Environment and Public Works Committee on February 25, 2009.
But I know you will find reason to dispute his findings too.
Hey, Trish. I do this because I like you so much. 😛
I actually agree with you on the hysteria. Some of the hype is unwarranted. I don’t subscribe to the idea that the planet will become a flaming ball of fire, or that we will be drawoned in a 20-ft sea level rise any time soon. However, I do believe that we are changing our climate for the worse, and if left unchecked, it could have devastating consequences for many.
I read over your link, and I must say I actually agree with him a little bit. For instance, he actually agrees that man is causing the planet to warm. I also agree that some of the hysteria surrounding AGW is not necessary. However, what he’s basically done, is he’s set up a straw man, which is the hysteria of the planet becoming a desert, or sea levels rising several feet and flooding cities. Then, he’s said that this is wrong and that more CO2 will be good for us. In that process, he’s ignored the findings of the world’s climate scientists on the subject, who actually have much more reasonable claims about the impacts of AGW, which can be found in the IPCC WGII SPM. The IPCC report actually ackowledges and discusses at length some of the potential benefits of a warmer climate for some areas of the world. However, it is clear from research that the warmer the planet gets, the more the benefits reduce and the costs increase.
I think it’s very important for everyone to understand what the AGW argument is and what it isn’t. People like Teach find the wacko alarmists and the most wild arguments he can, and then makes them out to be every AGW supporter, so it’s understandable that you might draw that conclusion, but it’s not true. I do not believe that we are facing an end-of-times scenario with AGW, but I do believe that there will be life-changing consequences for much of the world if something is not done. The best case scenario is that the planet warms a degree or two and life is harder mainly in more impoverished areas, but this is not very likely. The absolute worst case is that the planet warms several degrees, resulting in the Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets to plunge into the ocean, resulting in a 20-ft sea level rise, as well as many other devastating effects in other areas. This is also not very likely. Either way, though, increased warming is not a good thing.
IPCC Working Group II Summary report:
http://www.ipcc-wg2.gov/AR4/website/spm.pdf
Report based on flawed data, changed data, minority reports written by non-scientists, and which totally ignore thousands of other scientists’ efforts which show the climate running counter to what the IPCC would like us to believe is ‘reality.’
Otter… Are you making unsubstantiated claims again? What did I tell you about that?
Everything you said was false. No specifics, because you don’t have any. The only “thousands of scientists” you’ll find doing actual research on this subject are working on the IPCC report.