Whitmer Signs Gun Bills That Would Not Have Stopped Shooter, Lawsuits Expected

None of this will affect a citizen capable of passing a background check or a criminal

Whitmer signs gun control bills passed in response to deadly MSU shooting

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer signed the most far-reaching new laws aimed at curbing gun violence in decades in Michigan on Thursday, two months after a mass shooting on the campus of Michigan State University left three students dead and five severely injured.

This will do what, exactly?

(Breitbart) The MSU attacker used a handgun, so there was already a law on the books for that gun purchase. Moreover, NBC News noted he got his guns “legally,” which means he complied with gun control laws.

The gun storage law applies to people with minors in their home, but the MSU attacker was a 43-year-old man who lived with his 67-year-old father, both too old to trigger the requirements in the gun storage law.

There’s also a red flag law, which wouldn’t have stopped him

Local Attorney Reacts to New Gun Laws, Gun Store Owner Raises Concerns About Possible Impact on Business

Not everyone is pleased with the new gun laws as some people in Northern Michigan are raising concerns.

Governor Gretchen Whitmer’s signing of two new gun control laws, with a possible third on the way, has some people upset, and gun advocates threatening to sue.

“All of the second amendment support groups are going to sue on these things and [the laws are] not going to withstand constitutional scrutiny,” claims local attorney David Bieganowski.

Thursday, Governor Whitmer signed two new laws, one for universal background checks and the other requiring safe storage. Bieganowski says the safe storage law prevents gun owners from adequately defending themselves and says universal background checks are just not getting to the root of the problem.

However, he says the biggest concern is the proposed red flag laws.

“There’s not enough due process, you violate the second amendment,” Bieganowski points out. “It’s clearly unconstitutional I think they know that and they’re just going to pass it, run it up and let us sue them,”

And will violate the 4th Amendment, along with Michigan’s 10th (ex post facto), 11th

The person, houses, papers, possessions, electronic data, and electronic communications of every person shall be secure from unreasonable searches and seizures. No warrant to search any place or to seize any person or things or to access electronic data or electronic communications shall issue without describing them, nor without probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation. The provisions of this section shall not be construed to bar from evidence in any criminal proceeding any narcotic drug, firearm, bomb, explosive or any other dangerous weapon, seized by a peace officer outside the curtilage of any dwelling house in this state.

And 6th

Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state.

That’s pretty specific, is it not?

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3 Responses to “Whitmer Signs Gun Bills That Would Not Have Stopped Shooter, Lawsuits Expected”

  1. Professor Hale says:

    Good thing the FBI was able to break up the kidnapping that the FBI had set up for her. Otherwise, the FBI might had accidently killed her while trying to rescue her from their FBI informants.

  2. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    The MSU shooter, 43-year-old African American male, Anthony Dwayne McRae, was a Lansing resident with no known connection to the university.

    McRae was arrested in June 2019 for carrying a weapon without a concealed pistol license.
    Initially charged with a felony, he pleaded guilty to misdemeanor unlawful possession of a loaded firearm as part of a plea agreement. If convicted of a felony with a gun, McRae would have been precluded from possessing a firearm.

    McRae’s father said his son had anger issues, and, after the death of his mother in 2020, he became reclusive and socially isolated and “started to get evil and mean, and he didn’t care about anything anymore.” He described his son as “evil angry.” McRae’s sister, who had not seen McRae since her mother’s funeral in 2020, described her brother as socially isolated and hostile, and often transient.

    A third set of so-called “red flag” bills would allow a spouse, family member, a former spouse or a mental health professional to seek a court order temporarily barring someone from owning or purchasing a firearm.

    Gun sellers make money selling guns and have no incentive to NOT sell to a lunatic. Good luck suing a gun seller for selling to the lunatic that killed your daughter.

    Keeping felonies involving firearms as felonies, rather than pleading them down, seems like a good idea. Stiffening background checks also a good idea.

    Note that Michigan voters elected a Dem governor, AG, House and Senate.

  3. tdothen says:

    “Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state.”

    If I lived in Michigan, I might seek to amend this clause to substitute ‘from’ in place of ‘and’ so that it reads, ‘Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself from the state.’

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