Remember, Democrats say they only want to stop the Bad People from having scary guns. And then in the next breath they say they want to stop law abiding from getting scary guns
The US has experienced a string of mass shootings in the past three weeks in Buffalo, New York; Uvalde, Texas; and Tulsa, Oklahoma, that have left scores of adults and children dead.
The recent violence is prompting one House Democrat to draft a measure aimed at severely restricting access to the AR-15-style weapons used by different gunmen in the carnage. Rep. Donald Beyer of Virginia, a member of the tax-writing House Ways and Means panel, wants to impose a 1,000% excise tax on assault weapons.
“What it’s intended to do is provide another creative pathway to actually make some sensible gun control happen,” Beyer told Insider. “We think that a 1,000% fee on assault weapons is just the kind of restrictive measure that creates enough fiscal impact to qualify for reconciliation.”
New AR-15-style guns range from $500 to over $2,000 depending on location, NBC News reported. That means a 1,000% tax on the weapon would add $5,000 to $20,000 to their final sales price — and would probably keep it out of reach from many younger Americans.
Some details of the bill still aren’t finalized, such as when the tax would kick in and what to do with any revenue raised. It’s also unclear how much money it would generate. One out of every five weapons purchased in the US in AR-15 style rifle, per the National Shooting Sports Foundation in a 2014 court brief. Gun sales have surged since then and reached their second-highest level recorded last year.
Now, imagine Pelosi and the rest of the Dems get serious about passing this: how many will be purchased before this even gets a vote?
Bullets wouldn’t be subject to the new tax. But high-capacity magazines that can carry more than 10 rounds of ammunition would be aggressively taxed at that level.
If all this could get passed, how quick would this make it to the Supreme Court and be shot down, being a punitive tax on a legal product for one thing? And a specific attempt to deny law abiding citizens their 2nd Amendment rights. Just like SCOTUS has shot down other gun grabbing laws that overcharge citizens in an attempt to stop citizens from protecting themselves.
House Democrats are rallying around their own expansive gun-control package separate from ongoing Senate negotiations on a narrower bill centered on mental health, red flag laws, and a modest expansion of background checks. The House bill is expected to fall flat in the upper chamber due to stiff GOP resistance.
That outcome prompted Beyer to eye reconciliation, the legislative tactic allowing proposed laws to bypass the Senate’s 60-vote threshold known as the filibuster and pass with a simple majority. Democrats employed the maneuver in 2021 to approve both the stimulus law and the House-approved Build Back Better bill over united GOP resistance.
Would Pelosi and Schumer use reconciliation on this? They might not be able to count on getting 50 votes in the Senate.
Of course. Stratospheric cigarette taxes in New York kept them out of the hands of younger Americans. It works every time… unless there is some sort of market that doesn’t pay the taxes.
The Dems forget. If they want to drive up the prices of guns, all they have to do it keep being Democrats and talking about gun confiscations while creating higher crime. It worked all through the Obama administration. Ammo prices still haven’t returned to pre-Obama levels.
Never. Roberts has already ruled in favor of Congresses ability to levy taxes. The National Firearms act has had a tax on legal products (silencers and automatic weapons) for a very long time with no Supreme Court striking it down. They cannot strike down a punitive tax without opening the door to striking down other taxes like it.
It’s just Whack-a-Mole… Manufacturers will find a work-around to bypass the tax.
We have too many guns. Every teenage boy with a grievance is packing and ready to open up on anyone who disrespects him, his girl, his friends or his family.
Why not raise the legal age to purchase to 21 with an actual extensive background check! Limit ammo purchases. Crack down on teens carrying guns.
Really? We can monitor pseudoephedrine purchases but not ammo?
Rep. David Cicilline (D) says constitutional rights are “bullshit”.
To hell with his oath “to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.”
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/06/03/rep-david-cicilline-spare-me-the-bullsht-about-constitutional-rights-n2608185
This tells you everything you need to know about democrats.
#LetsGoBrandon
#TrustUs
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If the Distinguished Gentleman from Virginia managed to get his bill passed, what would it actually do? It would make ArmaLite AR-15, which range in price from $750 to $1,200, subject to a tax of $7,500 to $12,000, and place it out of range for most Americans . . . if they buy one legally.
It is guesstimated that there are 5 to 10 AR-15-style rifles in the United States, and an excise tax like that suddenly makes the ones already existing a lot more valuable on the black market. If someone really wants one, but doesn’t have $7,700 to spend on it, why he could collar one for maybe $2,500, a heck of a deal for him, and a heck of an incentive to someone who owns one legally to become a criminal by filing off serial numbers and selling it.
There was a ‘mass shooting’ in Philadelphia early Sunday morning, but what it really was was at least two gangs having a gun battle in which three people were killed and 11 more, 10 of whom were (supposedly) innocent bystanders being wounded. There were no AR-15s employed in that, but semi-automatic handguns, which, if we ever get the story, we will find out were not legally owned by any of the (at least) five shooters.
A trivial tidbit from history. In 1918 the Germans filed a complaint with what ever authority about the cruel nature of American weapons. Now remember, this was a war with machine guns both stationary and mobile, poison gas, fire, airplanes, the whole bit. But one weapon introduced by the US was the worse and present in many American homes——the automatic shotgun. I would rather face an ar15.
The Winchester 1897 Trench Gun was not exactly full auto. It was a pump shotgun but fired as soon as you racked in another shell as long as you held the trigger.
We have semi-auto shotguns all across the US. The tactical versions are shorter with more shot capacity (9) than std hunting guns. If you’ve never shot a 3″ mag 12 g shotgun, you’re in for a real treat! Just make sure no one is right behind you. That said, there are 12g loads with lower recoil designed for home defense. Another advantage of the shotgun at home is you are much less likely to shoot through a wall and kill a family member or neighbor. In contrast the AR-15 .223 rounds are designed to penetrate an army helmet at a quarter of a mile. Take the tactical shotgun over the AR-15 for defending your family. A pump is reliable and with practice can be rapidly fired. Crazed mass killers are also less likely to steal your unsecured 12 g.
Low recoil is one reason mass murderers prefer the AR-15 platform. Low recoil + more rounds per magazine, readily exchangeable magazines, lighter weight. More killing, less hassle.
But it’s understood that preppers, doom groomers, and wingers feel the need to defend themselves from government tyranny and slaughtered kids are small price to pay for your fantasies.
Dana surely intended 5-10 MILLION AR-15 platform rifles.
Whereas AR-15s are the tool of choice for terrorism in schools, churches, malls, stores, etc, the semi-auto pistols are the weapon of choice for gangbangers and other rowdies.
Do you really think a citizen would illegally modify his legally-obtained AR-15 so that someone could use it to slaughter school kids?
To my knowledge there have been few cheaters selling machine guns to killers.
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