Democrats Aim For Modest Gun Control Measures That Wouldn’t Have Stopped Shootings

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Democrats aim for modest deal on guns

Senate Democrats say they are ready to accept a modest deal on gun-control legislation as they are eager to get something done in response to mass shootings in Buffalo and Uvalde, Texas, even if it falls below their ambitions of previous years.

A bipartisan group of nine senators met Thursday afternoon to chart out a path for negotiations.

They say their top priorities are proposals to expand background checks and encourage states to set up red-flag laws to prohibit people deemed dangerous to themselves or others from owning firearms.

Democrats acknowledged from the outset that whatever deal they get is likely to be modest since it needs at least 10 Republican votes to overcome a filibuster. (big snip)

Nineteen states already have red flag laws on the books, including New York, where a 18-year-old shooter killed 10 people with an AR-15 assault rifle at a Buffalo supermarket. Connecticut enacted the nation’s first red flag law in 1999 but that didn’t stop a 20-year-old shooter from killing 26 people at Sandy Hook with a Bushmaster assault-style rifle.

Even though Texas really doesn’t have one, it wouldn’t have stopped that nutter as well. The kid was apparently violent and abusive and threatening. And “expanded background checks” wouldn’t have caught that, either, nor, potentially, the others. Laws only work if people pay attention to them, if law enforcement enforces them. How many people will you see who blow off stop signs today and face no consequences?

The question here is, “what happens if they get these laws?” Will Democrats attempt to implement a death by a thousand papercuts process to get even more and strong restrictions? The devil is in the details of the background checks proposal: does it require registration of all firearms with the government? Do the Democrats then want even tougher then tougher then tougher gun control which primarily hits the law abiding, rather than the criminals?

How about this proposal: if someone wants to sell their firearm privately, they should be required to fill out a form that shows the ID number of the gun, notes that the buyer must go get a background check within 2 days, and it be notarized and filed at either a county/city clerk office, police station, or Sheriff’s office. That puts the burden on the buyer, not the seller. It means someone has the papers, and can follow through.

How about locking the doors for entry into schools? Having armed security at the main entrance?

The Blumenthal-Graham bill would empower law enforcement officers to file a petition with a federal court requesting that someone deemed to be danger be prohibited from owning a firearm. Their proposal would allow that person a speedy hearing to protest the order.

“It’s a grant program,” said Graham. “We’re not federalizing this. We’re trying to incentivize best business practices at the state level.”

Yeah, they’re federalizing this, and, there’s no way it is speedy.

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10 Responses to “Democrats Aim For Modest Gun Control Measures That Wouldn’t Have Stopped Shootings”

  1. How does one actually implement the so-called “red flag” laws? It’s clear that neither Salvadore Ramos nor Payton Gendron were reported to law enforcement prior to buying his weapons, despite having left significant warnings via social media.

    Nikolas Cruz had many ‘encounters’ with the Broward County Sheriff’s Department, but they always let him off with a warning. He assaulted a student in school, but the soft-hearted and soft-headed school board, eager to disrupt the ‘school-to-prison pipeline’, declined to report that to law enforcement.

    If private citizens were unwilling to see Messrs Ramos and Gendron as serious enough threats to take some action, if the idiots in Broward County were unwilling to actually enforce laws already on the books, with what does that leave us? Nina Jankowicz and her Ministry of Truth scouring Twitter and Facebook, reading every message, trying to ferret out bad people? Perhaps some sort of government surveillance of email, looking for nut cases?

    No, what we’ll have are people using the system to cause problems for their enemies, cheating wives or their boyfriends trying to get at husbands, beta males trying to take the alphas down a peg, gang members trying to get opposing gang members disarmed and into the ‘system,’ cheating husbands or their girlfriends trying to get cheated on wives checked on by the police, or just liberals trying a new form of ‘SWATting’ against sensible people. How about #woke teachers or school administrators upset when they find out some of their students are hunters? We’ve already seen efforts to get physicians and their staffs to ask patients, especially minor patients, if there are any guns in their homes!

    In the end, they’re typical leftist ideas to get more and more government supervision of our lives, Minority Report thinking that we can somehow police impure thoughts of people who may not have committed any crime.

    • UnkleC says:

      Unfortunately, here in TX, we can’t escape the 24/7 coverage. It seems, from the a.m. news, that the bad guy in Uvalde had been in ‘trouble’ with the local constabulary for a similar previous threat that was ‘covered up’ by his minor status.
      Developing and I’m sure the reporting will change as it already has with a couple of other items.

      • Dana says:

        Mr C wrote:

        here in TX, we can’t escape the 24/7 coverage

        Sure you can:

        turn off the television!

        I’ve told people before: due to my very limited hearing, I don’t bother with television news, but prefer to read the news online. That means I can choose not to read it at any given time. I’ve got 8 acres of farm of which to take care, cats and dogs and chickens to feed, and gardens to tend.

        Perhaps that skews my perspective in ways it doesn’t for other people, but to me it seems simple: turn off the news every once in a while.

        • L.G.Brandon!, L.G.Brandon! says:

          Dana: “turn off the television!”

          That’s what I did two days ago when that filthy Upchuck Schumer stared flapping is poison partisan lips. Can’t take that pig. I can read what he spews but just can’t listen to his voice. Joyless Reid is the same. So I just turn it off and wait for the dust to settle. Sooner or later they’ll realize nobody’s taking our firearms away unless they have a death wish.


        • UnkleC says:

          Sorry Dana, I don’t watch tv or read newspapers. I do online, and some radio; but the subject is being discussed out in public as well around here. I turned off network news some 20 years ago and haven’t looked back.

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  3. James Lewis says:

    “No, what we’ll have are people using the system to……just liberals trying a new form of ‘SWATting’ against sensible people………..”


  4. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    In December 2012, a man entered Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut with a Bushmaster AR-15 model rifle and massacred 20 six and seven year old school kids and six staff members.

    (The murderer, AL) entered a first-grade classroom where Lauren Rousseau, a substitute teacher, had herded her first grade students to the back of the room, and was trying to hide them in a bathroom, when AL forced his way into the classroom. Rousseau, Rachel D’Avino (a behavioral therapist who had been employed for a week at the school to work with a special needs student), and fifteen students in Rousseau’s class were killed. Fourteen of the children were dead at the scene; one injured child was taken to a hospital for treatment, but was later declared dead. Most of the teachers and students were found crowded together in the bathroom.

    A six-year-old girl, the sole survivor, was found by police in the classroom following the shooting. She hid in a corner of the classroom’s bathroom during the shooting. Her family’s pastor said she survived by playing dead. When she reached her mother, she said, “Mommy, I’m okay, but all my friends are dead.” The child described the shooter as “a very angry man.” A girl hiding in a bathroom with two teachers told police that she heard a boy in the classroom screaming, “Help me! I don’t want to be here!” to which AL responded, “Well, you’re here,” followed by “hammering” sounds.

    As a nation, we did nothing. We will do nothing now.

    Dead kids are a small price to pay for keeping the GOP funded.

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