Where’s Biden’s Vaccine Mandate?

People are starting to wonder where and when

When will President Joe Biden announce vaccine mandate rules for businesses?

President Joe Biden stumped for his national vaccine mandate at a speaking engagement in Chicago on Thursday but offered no further information on when the plan, that’s set to impact 100 million U.S. workers, will go into effect.

Biden said the U.S. Department of Labor continues to work on the new rules which will be released “soon” but said the announcement itself has already spurred some large U.S. companies to launch their own in-house mandates ahead of the new federal rules.

“When I announced the first requirement, that encouraged businesses to feel they can come in and demand the same thing of their own employees,” Biden said. “More people are getting vaccinated, more lives are being saved.”

And therein is a big point: trying to strong-arm companies into implementing their own vaccine mandates prior to the OSHA release, because, for one thing, they know the OSHA rule will face immediate lawsuits. Also, how will OSHA enforce this? There are only so many inspectors, and they should be doing inspections of certain companies, rather than being Vaccine Police.

Earlier Thursday, the New York Times reported that OSHA is continuing to work on standards that pass legal muster nearly a month after Biden announced the mandate plan. That includes a number of rigorous, time-consuming steps, like demonstrating that workers face a grave danger at work and that a rule is necessary to address the danger. The agency is also working through the long list of questions that business groups have sent seeking guidance on the finer points of vaccine mandates. A few of the thorny issues:

  • Will independent contractors count toward the 100-employee threshold?
  • Who will pay for testing? Companies? The government? The unvaccinated?
  • Will vaccine mandates include boosters, if approved?

How about “what of franchised companies?” Because there are many companies which may not have 100 in their corporate office. Or, maybe they do, but the franchised stores (such as fast food places) do not. The rule will surely not be going through the regular rule-making process, which does leave itself open to lawsuits.

The Times report also noted several big employers have imposed mandates since Biden’s announcement, including 3M and Procter & Gamble. Others, like JPMorgan Chase and Walmart, have yet to issue broad requirements. But even after OSHA finalizes its rules, some employers wary of mandates may not act, betting that they won’t be punished because of the agency’s limited enforcement resources or that the standards could get bogged down in court.

Exactly. How many will lose their jobs because they refuse to take a vaccine that essentially still in the testing phase. I’m pro-vaccine, but, I’m anti-mandate. Ask me again in a year or two, when we’ll have a whole lot more data on how the vaccines perform and side effects, at least short term.

Especially when mandates are selective

Friday is the first full day of the Los Angeles County vaccine mandate, where customers must show proof of vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test at select businesses, like outdoor venues, bars, wineries and breweries.

While the San Fernando Brewing Company closed before midnight Thursday night, the business is ready to check customers vaccine status before they’re allowed inside today.

“I’m feeling a little picked on, actually, is probably the the best way to put it,” said Vic Chouchanian, owner of San Fernando Brewing Company.

Some are required, others aren’t.

And the People In Charge would rather restrict Americans and cause issues than look towards China which created this who thing.

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20 Responses to “Where’s Biden’s Vaccine Mandate?”

  1. Joe says:

    I’m planning on beginning my permanent vacation in April. I’ll tolerate the weekly test if it comes to that. If this Jello brained pedophile get the jab mandated, I’m gone. My bosses can try to train my replacement.

  2. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    William Teach typed: a vaccine that essentially still in the testing phase

    Contrary to what is claimed by nuCon “news” outlets and bloggers, the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine has been approved by the US FDA. The approval was based on the results from 10s of thousands volunteers treated in clinical trials. Since the emergency authorization, millions of Americans have received the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine regimen with very few reported serious adverse effects. The vaccination reduces the rate of infections, spread, hospitalizations and death from Covid.

  3. Kye says:

    “The vaccination reduces the rate of infections, spread, hospitalizations and death from Covid.”

    Which makes it an inoculation, not a vaccination. BTW, it was not approved. They hope it will be within the next 8 weeks. Had it been approved, the liability exemption would have been released. It has not been. You assholes need to learn to follow the money if you seek the Truth.

    Why would you or for that matter anyone suggest using a drug which has not been thoroughly tested, time tested, age tested and which leaves the user NO RECOURSE if it’s defective? Why Elwood, why?

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Fact: It’s a vaccine, at least according to the CDC, who should know.

      Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

      Fact: The FDA approved the Pfizer vaccine, at least according the FDA, who should know.

      Fact: Kye and his master, William Teach, are assholes.

      Regarding your liability falsehood (we assume you believe your statements and are not lying intentionally):

      U.S. Code Title 42 CHAPTER 6A SUBCHAPTER XIX Part 2 subpart b § 300aa–22
      42 U.S. Code § 300aa–22 – Standards of responsibility

      (a)General rule
      Except as provided in subsections (b), (c), and (e) State law shall apply to a civil action brought for damages for a vaccine-related injury or death.

      (b)Unavoidable adverse side effects; warnings
      (1)No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings.

      In March 2020, Pandemic Don’s Secretary of HHS, Alex Azar, issued a PREP Act Declaration covering COVID-19 tests, drugs and vaccines providing additional liability protections to manufacturers, distributors, states, localities, licensed healthcare professionals, and others identified by the Secretary (qualified persons) who administer COVID-19 countermeasures.

      In summary, 1) a vaccine is still a vaccine, 2) the Pfizer vaccine received FDA approval, 3) Kye is an asshole and 4) vaccine manufacturers have had liability limits since 1988.

      Kye brother, you keep repeating disproved falsehoods, just as your master Teach does. You’ve ventured into the mentally ill zone.

      • drowningpuppies says:

        Fact: It ain’t working as advertised.
        Fact: More have died in 2021 after the “vaccine” was introduced. (Johns Hopkins University)

        In summary: Rimjob is still a dipshit who doesn’t have a clue.

        #BelieveTheLie
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  4. drowningpuppies says:

    there is no law. there is no mandate.

    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/biden-is-playing-fakeball-not-hardball

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    • Kye says:

      That’s fine with Elwood, Jl. The more dead the merrier. It also makes as much sense as doctors not treating organ transplants because they weren’t “vaccinated”. The law does not apply to everybody, neither do the rules, the mandates, or anything that can be used to hurt Normie Americans.

    • Zachriel says:

      Jl: Doctors Announce They Will No Longer Treat Car Accident Victims Who Didn’t Wear Their Seat Belt

      They are not equivalent situations. A person in a car accident can’t retroactively put on a seat belt. However, someone on the transplant list can take the vaccine, along with the many other compliance policies that are part of the transplantation process.

      • Kye says:

        Again, as a transplant patient I can say you don’t know what you’re talking about.

        In this case both the donor and recipient were working together and had no part of the National Donor Base. This is a private agreement a contract (we know how you commies hate contracts they confer the authority of ownership) between two willing participants. Those “compliance policies” you refer to (everything with you people requires force, compliance, surrender, submission. You should be a mooslem) are for medical reasons among unknown participants.

        If these two folks agree there is absolutely no reason why they can’t waive the “vaccine” requirement. It does not effect the surgeons or medical staff as they are “vaxxed” and wear masks (so they are protected, right?) and the transplant participants can be tested for the Fauxi Flu the morning of the operation. No Problem!

        To further illustrate your abject stupidity:
        Should fat people be denied medical attention for a heart attack if they aren’t “vaxxed”?
        How about smokers?
        Drinkers?
        Queers engaging in risky sex?
        Should none of these folks be denied medical treatment because they failed to “comply” and get “vaxxed”?

        So you say “Let’em die!!!! Very compassionate, empathetic and shows your humanity. But what else could one expect from a fascist?

        • Zachriel says:

          Kye: In this case both the donor and recipient were working together and had no part of the National Donor Base.

          Transplant surgeons are also a limited supply. It is also required that perspective recipients be free of smoking and drinking, take prescribed medications if they have high blood pressure, and conform to a multitude of other required protocols, before the transplant.

          Kye: It does not effect the surgeons or medical staff as they are “vaxxed” and wear masks (so they are protected, right?)

          Vaccines only offer partial protection. However, the concern is that the hospital would be wasting their efforts as the rate of transplant failure is higher is they contract COVID *and* there is an effective method for reducing this risk.

          Kye: How about smokers? Drinkers?

          Good examples. Transplant patients are expected to stop smoking and drinking before transplantation.

          The transplant center may not accept you if you smoke (including medical marijuana) or have a drug or alcohol problem. Smoking, drinking, and drugs can cause health problems during transplant. If you’re tested and results show you have nicotine or drugs in your system, the center is likely to turn you down or tell you to re-apply in about 6 months.
          https://transplantliving.org/kidney/getting-the-transplant-process-started/

          Kye: Should fat people be denied medical attention for a heart attack if they aren’t “vaxxed”?

          We’re not talking general medical care, but organ transplant. Many transplant centers will not accept someone who is morbidly obese due to the high rate of complications. They would expect the person to reduce their weight before transplantation.

          • Kye says:

            I’m not going around in circles with you Zachriel. We are talking about saving a life. Period. It’s the DUTY of physicians to do so. You can hem and haw all you want but it boils down to the fact these two people WON’T SUBMIT to your tyranny so the lady should die! That’s always the fascist view. FORCE!!!!!

            You keep spouting off about what is required fore transplant and you are always partially correct but never really correct. I find it amusing that you feel qualified to argue with me when I was a transplant patient for 5 years and was subject to all the protocols and bullshit entailed just as Elwood argues with me about HCQ and Ivermectin when they cured my Fauxi Flu in under 10 days.

            Post transplant the recipient will be exposed to every disease she was exposed to before transplant and any one could kill her. Hell, since we know so LITTLE about the medium and long term effects of the fake “vaccine” the “vaccine” itself could kill her! There are no guarantee4s with transplants. And you are in no position to determine this lady should DIE because you disagree with her approach to the Fauxi Flu. BTW, neither are her doctors.

            They should concentrate on medicine, not politics.

          • Zachriel says:

            Kye: You keep spouting off about what is required fore transplant and you are always partially correct but never really correct.

            But you fail to point out where we are “never really correct.” Are perspective transplant recipients subject to a number of protocols; no smoking, no drinking, take medication to control blood pressure or blood sugar if prescribed, take immunosuppressive drugs after transplant, etc. Or can they just say they don’t want to quit smoking, drinking, controlling their blood pressure or blood sugar, and won’t take immunosuppressive drugs after transplant; and still expect a transplant?

            Kye: We are talking about saving a life.

            That’s right! And the best medical practice is to take the vaccine before transplantation to reduce chance of COVID and possible complications.

          • Zachriel says:

            perspective prospective

  5. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Teach’s Prod Boyz are Alinsky Disciples (as is their Savior, Traitor Don), following especially, Rules For Radicals, Rule 5: “Ridicule Is Man’s Most Potent Weapon”.

    It’s all the Prod Boyz have.

    Hardly surprising, since all the right has is hate.

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