VP Debate: Pence Refuse To Call Climate Change (scam) And Existential Threat Or Something

The moderator worked in some climate crisis hysteria, and Pence refused to take the bait

Pence refused to concede climate change is a manmade ‘existential threat’ during the vice-presidential debate

Vice President Mike Pence side-stepped questions and made multiple false claims about climate change during Wednesday night’s vice-presidential debate.

“With regard to climate change, the climate is changing, but the issue is what’s the cause and what do we do about it?” Pence said, rejecting established science about the causes of manmade climate change.

And the Credentialed Media wonders why trust in them is so low and they’re called biased when news stories go like this. Anyhow, I wonder if Pence has ever read this little blog, or Right Wing News when it was still active, because, how many times have I noted that the debate is not about the climate changing, but, about causation?

Pence attacked Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and his running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, for supporting a Green New Deal and pledging to re-sign the Paris Agreement, which the Trump administration controversially abandoned in 2017. Pence argued both initiatives would “crush American jobs.”

When asked directly whether he considered climate change an “existential threat,” Pence ignored the question and quickly pivoted to a different topic.

“The climate is changing. We’ll follow the science,” Pence said. “But once again, Sen. Harris is denying the fact that they’re going to raise taxes.”

If it’s such an existential threat, why do almost no climate cultists act like it in their own lives? Further, the raising taxes thing refers partly to the Green New “It’s really about economics” Deal, and partly to Biden saying he’d repeal the 2017 tax cuts which, regardless of talking points, lowered taxes for the middle class.

Pence falsely claimed, too, that a Biden-Harris administration would ban hydraulic fracturing, also known as fracking, a controversial form of natural-gas and oil extraction.

During her presidential bid last year, Harris said she supported banning fracking, but Biden has rejected that position. Biden has repeatedly said that his administration wouldn’t ban fracking, but would end additional drilling on federal land.

But, Biden has said in the past, as has Harris, that he would ban fracking. And flipped and flopped all over on the subject. Let’s not forget that his previous boss tried to get rid of fracking, and their hardcore base demands an end to fracking, and most of the hardcores a President Biden would appoint in key positions would want to ban it, too.

Harris also ducked on her support of the Green New Deal, and, of course, AOC had to respond to Pence

If it’s so popular, why have the House Democrats not passed it? In fact, it is literally sitting in committee, with no discussion, no actions. If it is so darned great then why has AOC failed to demand a vote on it? February will be two years since it was introduced.

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26 Responses to “VP Debate: Pence Refuse To Call Climate Change (scam) And Existential Threat Or Something”

  1. alanstorm says:

    “Pence refused to concede climate change is a manmade ‘existential threat’ during the vice-presidential debate”

    He’s right. It’s not man-made, and it’s not an existential threat.

    “With regard to climate change, the climate is changing, but the issue is what’s the cause and what do we do about it?” Pence said, rejecting established science about the causes of manmade climate change.”

    Established science? Geology was a long-established science…until plate tectonics came along.

    A much newer discipline like ‘climate science’? Anybody believing ‘the science! is settled’ is ignorant of science.

    He’s right again. What do we do about it? We adapt. We do NOT turn our lives over to (even more) governmental oversight. Anyone who believes THAT is a different kind of denier.

  2. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Frank Luntz, a Republican pollster, reported that in his focus group after the debate, impressions of Ms. Harris were generally unfavorable, including “evasive,” “snarky” and “unpresidential.” Hardly surprising from a GOP group when describing a Black female.

    Do they consider Donald J. Trump “presidential”?

    The idea of continental drift was hypothesized in the 1900s, and the theory reached a scientific consensus in the 50s and 60s when the phenomenon of seafloor spreading was confirmed, demonstrating that the creation of new seafloor was driving the movement of the crust plates. That’s what happens as scientists uncover new facts. Wegener had observed similarities in fossils, rocks and geologic formations between continents and hypothesized that the continents had existed as a single large land mass at one time and had separated over 100s of millions of years driven by the Earth’s rotation and centrifugal force (wrong) or on the tidal pulls between the Earth and moon (also wrong). Climate change deniers are still waiting for the data to invalidate the theory of CO2 induced global warming.

    • formwiz says:

      Apparently, lot of Demos thoght the same about Chlamydia. How many WOC poll <1% among blacks?

      IOW Pence kicked her ass.

      And skeptics are waiting for the Commies to use real data and real science.

    • alanstorm says:

      “Hardly surprising from a GOP group when describing a Black female.”

      Prejudiced much?

    • alanstorm says:

      “That’s what happens as scientists uncover new facts”

      Thanks for agreeing that the science isn’t settled. C02 is a very weak greenhouse gas. Water vapor – of which there is much more, and less is related to human causes – is a MUCH bigger factor.

      As long as the warmists focus on C02, they will lose.

      (BTW, I didn’t need the refresher on the history of tectonics. Old news. And you COMPLETELY missed the point, with it right in front of your face.)

    • Jl says:

      Invalidate the theory? Don’t need to, because It’s never been replicated in an experiment https://twitter.com/dawntj90/status/1312354860814262272?s=21

  3. formwiz says:

    Gropin’ Joe’s reaction to Trump insisting on a face-to-face debate (where it’ll be harder for the “moderator” to cover for Gropin’ Joe), “I’m gonna follow the Commission’s recommendations. If he goes off and he’s gonna have a rally I don’t what I’ll do!” he said throwing his arms in the air.

    As for Presidential, were Jack Kennedy and Willie Whitewater considered Presidential when they were banging interns in the White House?

  4. formwiz says:

    More likes about Dien Bien Flu.

    Deaths even without it on the death cert are counted as deaths from it.

    Question: Has anybody in this country actually died from it, or is the whole thing a lie?

    • drowningpuppies says:

      Total Annual Deaths U.S.

      2018: 2,839,205
      2019: 2,855,000
      2020: 2,033,736 thru Sept.24

      We’re on a pace to be less or about the same as 2018 and 2019.

      Lolgf https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        https://tinyurl.com/y5jgmymj

        US had 240,000 excess deaths through Aug 21. 180,000 were attributed to Covid suggesting that many deaths were not coded to Covid.

        • formwiz says:

          excess deaths? Sounds like something Zeke Emanuel would say.

          What, exactly is an “excess” death?

          180,000 were attributed to Covid

          I thought it was 207,000. Which is it?

          suggesting that many deaths were not coded to Covid.

          I didn’t think we had any of those. Gropin’ Joe says 200 million died from Fauci’s Follies.

          Maybe he’s right.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            It’s at 215,903 dead as of today. 180,000 was as of August 21. Probably around 225,000 by election day and 275,000 when Biden is inaugurated.

            If you had read the article you’d have learned that “excess deaths” represent the deaths in excess of those expected based on similar periods in previous years.

          • drowningpuppies says:

            Fun with made up numbers,Rimjob.
            Kinda like cooling the past to make it appear warmer today.
            Or diagnosing a patient you’ve never met. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_yahoo.gif

            Thanks for the enlightenment, Dr. Rimjob.

            Bwaha! Lolgfy https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Truckstop Handjob is welcome.

  5. formwiz says:

    If people vote their pocketbooks, Joe and the Ho are in big trouble.

    According to Gallup, 56% said they’re better off today than four years ago.

    For reference, only 44% said they were in ’84, and Reagan almost swept the country.

  6. formwiz says:

    It’s at 215,903 dead as of today. 180,000 was as of August 21. Probably around 225,000 by election day and 275,000 when Biden is inaugurated.

    No, 270, as of today, 250 on 8/21, and, since deaths are pretty flat, about that on election day.

    If you had read the article you’d have learned that “excess deaths” represent the deaths in excess of those expected based on similar periods in previous years.</i.

    As I say, sounds like Zeke Emanuel

  7. Jl says:

    “Over looks the experiments of Arrhenius…”. Funny-then so is Gavin Schmidt..hmmm
    But actually even Arrhenius knew it was just a “thought experiment”. Sorryhttps://twitter.com/dawntj90/status/1311433564488192001?s=12

  8. Jl says:

    Sorry-one has to scroll to the bottom of that link. Arrhenius said in regards to H2O and CO2 radiative forcing: “One should, strictly speaking, arrange experiments in the absorption of heat from a body at 15C by means of appropriate quantities of both gasses.” So in other words, he just theorized it, but never did an actual experiment. But it’s interesting that J thinks someone performed the experiment over100 yrs ago but is unable to do it now….Sounds about right….

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