California Considers Ending The Use Of Fossil Fueled Vehicles

This is very interesting, considering how much in the way of fossil fuels are used by the same people making the recommendations

(Grist) Let’s ban gasoline-powered cars, says California’s governor. It’s often said that national climate policy is “Made in California,” and now Governor Jerry Brown reportedly wants to ban the internal combustion engine from its roads.

“I’ve gotten messages from the governor asking, ‘Why haven’t we done something already?’” Mary Nichols, chair of the powerful California Air Resources Board, told Bloomberg. “The governor has certainly indicated an interest in why China can do this and not California.” (snip)

A ban could come as soon as 2030, Nichols said.

Perhaps Nichols could explain how she and the governor have given up their own use of fossil fueled planes and vehicles?

(Daily Caller) Analysts and conservatives believe a Democrat-led plan to propose a ban on gas-powered cars in California later this year is a pie-in-the-sky scheme that ignores important factors about the state’s auto industry.

Assemblyman Phil Ting plans to introduce a bill in January that would ban the sale of gas-powered cars produced after 2040. The Democratic lawmaker said California drivers must adopt electric vehicles if the state is going to reduce greenhouse gas emissions – but some are scoffing at the push.

“The market is moving this way. The entire world is moving this way. At some point you need to set a goal and put a line in the sand,” Ting told reporters Friday. Environmental groups such as the Sierra Club have joined his push to wipe out the state’s fossil fuel industry.

The market isn’t really moving there, unless you are now calling The Government the market.

Kerry Jackson, a fellow at the Pacific Research Institute, a California-based free market non-profit group, for instance, told reporters that the push to force citizens to abandon their gas-powered cars is another example of the state’s overzealous environmentalism.

“The reaction is like, ‘Gee, somebody has been reading The Onion and they got taken in by the parody,” he said, responding to lawmakers’ desire to delete the fossil fuel industry. “But then it fades a little bit and you go, ‘Yeah, this is California.’”

Really, if this is so important to California, why not just restrict all sales starting in 2020?

BTW, someone once asked what was the point of using Rage Boy in that graphic. The answer is that Warmists are as unhinged and zealous as Rage Boy.

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9 Responses to “California Considers Ending The Use Of Fossil Fueled Vehicles”

  1. bkhuna says:

    I have an idea. Let’s help them out. How about the oil companies not selling any petrochemical products to KKKalifornia. No fertilizer. No gas. No fuel oil for ships. No aviation fuel for airplanes. No home heating oil.

    I’ll sit back and giggle my ass off when the whole place looks like a urine soaked back alley in TJ.

  2. Dana says:

    It takes energy to move a vehicle, whether that energy is provided by an internal combustion engine, or an electric motor. The gasoline engine powers the car directly, while the electricity produced at the power plant — you know: the one burning a fossil fuel — must transport its energy to the vehicle’s charging station.

    Considering the main parts of a typical Transmission & Distribution network, here are the average values of power losses at the different steps*:

    1-2% – Step-up transformer from generator to Transmission line
    2-4% – Transmission line
    1-2% – Step-down transformer from Transmission line to Distribution network
    4-6% – Distribution network transformers and cables

    The overall losses between the power plant and consumers is then in the range between 8 and 15%.

    This must not be mixed up with the efficiency of power plants like nuclear, coal-fired or natural gas turbine. These technologies are based on a thermodynamic cycle, which efficiency is in the order of 35%. This means that the combustion of coal, for example, will produce heat, which will be converted into mechanical energy and then into electricity.

    The global transformation is summarized on the picture below where “units” represent units of energy.

    From the energy assessment, it can be concluded that 100 units saved at home can save 300 units saved at the power plant. This should be a real encouragement to save energy for a greener environment.

    Gasoline engines are also around 35% efficient, while diesel engines can do better than that. However, there is no transmission loss from the power plant to the charging station. Thus, in terms of heat energy generated, the internal combustion engine is more efficient at moving a vehicle from point A to point B. Should we power automobiles by gasoline burned at the vehicle itself, or coal burned at the power plant?

  3. Dana says:

    Maybe the Pyrite State is simply preparing for the day its socialist government turns it into Venezuela. That socialist country, with the world’s largest petroleum reserves, is about to run out of gasoline.

  4. Nate says:

    I’m thinking the border wall’s going to need a northern branch.

  5. xtron says:

    let’s play a game…real quick…
    imagine all the cars in south texas and south florida were all electric vehicals with a 40 mile range before requiring 18 hours to recharge….
    now imagine how well the hurricane evacuations would have gone.
    now imagine telling all those idiots who want to ban gas engines what you really think of them.

    • bkhuna says:

      I’m a native Floridian. I don’t care if South Florida will all it’s Blue state yankees and turd world refusegees can’t evacuate.

  6. drowningpuppies says:

    Guess they’ll stop all the tractor-trailer rigs at the border and use electric trucks to long haul the trailers full of cargo.
    Genius that governor is.

  7. david7134 says:

    Battery operated cars discharge in cold weather. Will be interesting to see what happens.

  8. Jeffery says:

    The recommendations called for eliminating gas powered vehicles by 2030 or 2040. Which will happen regardless of proclamations.

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