Offended. I see that Memeorandum has a big pull from ABC11 here in the Triangle. entitled “CONFEDERATE FLAG PHOTO UPSETS CHAPEL HILL STUDENTS” (love the all caps), but, I like the WRAL article better
Chapel Hill man says daughter’s controversial photo taken ‘out of context’
The father of a student at East Chapel Hill High School said Wednesday that his daughter did not mean to offend anyone in late April when she posted a photo to social media of two Confederate flags with the caption “South will rise.â€
(Photo from the ABC11 article)
A contentious scene unfolded outside the Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools offices Wednesday morning when Ronald Creatore arrived to defend his daughter and ask questions of concerned students, parents and community members who were holding a news conference to call for punishment in the incident. Creatore said the meaning of his daughter’s post was taken out of context.
Remember that in bold for a few minutes
The picture was taken during a school trip to the Gettysburg National Battlefield, and it was uploaded to the photo-sharing mobile app Instagram.
A comment on the photo reading “Already bought my first slave†also drew criticism from many students and parents at the school, including Creatore, who said it was unacceptable.
The daughter wrote an apology
“I’m sorry that my picture offended people and especially since my initial caption (that I changed once I realized people took it seriously), but I’m currently on the Civil War trip learning about the history of our country and this just so happens to be a pretty (expletive) important part of it. We were reenacting Pickett’s charge in which the South lost 85% of their soldiers. These aren’t the Confederate flags in fact, they’re the North Carolina regimental flags. I’m proud to be a part of my state and I’m sorry my photo was so offensive but I find it appropriate in that I’m honoring heroes that fought to protect their home and families. Thanks though.”
We can debate the meaning of the flag, which, really, I understand has negative connotations to Blacks, but, to most whites, especially in the South, it simply stands for Southern pride and freedom from a powerful Central government, and has nothing to do with hatred of Blacks. Not all Confederates were pro-slavery, nor were all Union soldiers anti-slavery. Most Confederates had nothing to do with slavery, and couldn’t have cared less. Different mindsets from different races. But, certainly, the comment about “buying first slave” is beyond the pale, but wasn’t written by the students in the picture. At least no article has made that claim.
Many who were offended are trying to turn this into a racism issue, and that is their right. Even though these are young kids who are young kids (and, strangely, have been stuck in an uber-liberal education system).
What we do have, though, is calls for punishment because people are Offended, despite no law being broken, unless we want to consider Thought Crime laws. This is law by mob rule. This is Rule Of Men, rather than Rule Of Law. People should be very concerned by this trend, where the Law is arbitrary. Because those calling for punishment could be the next recipient if they Offend someone.
Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools Superintendent Tom Forcella told WRAL that the students are not likely to be punished because it does not fall under the system’s definition of cyberbullying.
In fact, the person who seems to be the recipient of bullying, both cyber and real world, is the daughter. There are some seriously nasty comments written about her at Talking Points Memo and Raw Story, among others. Parents screaming at the girls about “white privilege” is abusive and bullying. Calling for the girl to be arbitrarily punished for Offending is bullying and abusive.
You have a right to be offended. You don’t have a right to criminalize being offended.
Crossed at Right Wing News.
Of course a white male from an elite priviledge past should be able to be the one to define raaaacism. That powerful central government protects minorities from oppression by local majorities and endures full rights gir all U.S. Citizens
Confederate flags represent racism slavery lynching and hatred to the Union which are the United States of America you may if you wish call this Douthern heritage
North Carolina has recently lost a Supreme Court battle over gerrymandering electoral districts to ensure that blacks do not get fair representation in the U.S. Congress is that one if the over reaching Federal government power grabs you fear?
“Of course a white male from an elite priviledge past should be able to be the one to define raaaacism.”
And there we have it. Liberalism at its’ best where certain characteristics as defined by the left, disqualify someone from being able to present an opinion.
I’ve been curious about this white privilege shit for a while. Thankfully John came along to demonstrate it’s usefulness.
only a true idiot or racist would be scared of a flag …. the abusers and racists omn the left still have to protect the view of the po’ black folks ……
Confederate flags represent racism, lynching and slavery..” Yes, by far all Democratic practices over the last several hundred years.
True. Which must explain the FOX and friends fear of the ISIL flag. Or their fear of the Mexican flag.
And some how you think that makes it acceptable?
Conservatives are such lightweights when it comes to criticism. They swoon, clutch their pearls and faint on the divan when they are criticized.
Again, no one is censoring anyone or blocking their ability to present an opinion. But the freedom to express one’s opinion is also available to critics.
Conservatives are such victims.
It is amazing that I have seen a number of KKK pictures and the US flag seems to be flying more often than the Confederate. The Confederate flag is actually one of freedom. That is what the South was fighting for and still desires.
Her dad didn’t hesitate to throw her under the bus, calling her thoughtless prank “a mistake”.
His daughter’s pseudo-apology (“I’m sorry if anyone was offended… etc) showed she learned little history on her trip. The civil war was a response of Southern slave states seeing the anti-slavery Abraham Lincoln (R-IL)being elected President. The CSA were traitors, pure and simple, who decided to leave America because their “way of life” – owning slaves – was coming to an end. Revisionist conservative history has tried to change the story to make it something more honorable.
No, the southern belle in question does not deserve punishment. If education doesn’t help her, so be it. Culture can be cruelly self-correcting. The sensitive snowflake claims this is an NC regimental flag, LOL.
It is not illegal to display the Confederate battle flag, nor is it illegal to be called an ignorant racist for doing so.
scared of a flag … only an idiot would be scared of a flag… try to drag a tv network in all one wants …. must be tough watching something one doesn’t like 24/7 to see what to be critical of … dont watch tv news myself … thing called the web .. lots of sources
a thing called fresh air is good .. the abusers of children and the truth should try it
Teach the Swastika can not be said to represent Germanic pride. The army fighting under the stars and bars was fighting to keep black people slaves.
Put a hat on desertrek the sun is frying your head
Of course John starts out by completely missing the point I was making, namely about people being Offended so the girl Must Be Punished, and about bullying, not about actual racism. If that is what it is, considering the snowflakes are high schoolers. And then decides that he is going to insult me personally. And later desertrek. Way to go John!
And then goes down a stupid road regarding gerrymandering.
“Again, no one is censoring anyone or blocking their ability to present an opinion. But the freedom to express one’s opinion is also available to critics.”
Straw man nonsense Jeffery. Deny something not stated.
“Conservatives are such victims.”
I see you do this a lot as do others on the left. Insult, disparage, or attack conservatives then accuse them of being the victim when they object or reply.
Yet another method used by the left to avoid and stifle debate.
Jeffery is the perfect example to the Liberal mindset. Nothing he states is correct but well believed by the average LIV.
How about a little history Jeffery?
• The Civil war was a war over State’s rights—not slavery.
• Started when the North (NH IRRC) awarded itself 80% of the money taken in taxes from the South to itself.
• The vast majority of Slaves were taken into Slavery by blacks.
• Almost all (over 98%) of slaves came to port in the North with most being in NH—the Manchester area.
• The first freed slave became a slave owner.
Should I keep going?
• Maybe that the Constitution was written in such a fashion so slavery could not survive in this new world but the Constitution was not passable any other way at the time.
• President Lincoln was not the savior you believe because he freed the slaves because he was losing the war and in some opinions needed “canon fodder†to bolster his lacking troops.
Go back to Mommies’ basement and get some real education—not that crap Liberals feed you and try to feed our youth.
BTW, the flags the girls held are accurate.
American by birth ~ Southern by the grace of God.
By all means! Your mythology is entertaining.
My dear mom has been dead these many years and I’ve owned my own basement(s) for the past 40 years.
Correct. A state’s right to practice slavery, LOL.
I learned in school it started when Confederates attacked Fort Sumter on 12 April 1861.
So what? Wouldn’t you expect Blacks to be kidnaping other Blacks in Africa?
Even if true, and you offered no evidence that it was, so what?
Again. So what?
And maybe it wasn’t. Why did it several decades for the “poison pill” to take effect?
So the North used freed southern slaves to demolish the traitorous south, starting in 1863? Some opinions? LOL.
We understand why southerners create these noble myths, as the truth of treachery, treason, rebellion and slavery is pretty horrible. The shock of emancipation and the loss of the Civil War still reverberates through the south and through southerners.
Why did your imaginary “God” abandon the south? He took away your slaves. Let the Yankees kick your butts. And has left the south a mess for a century and a half.
You are American by dumb luck ~ southern by bad luck.
Just as expected by a LIV. Everything I stated is fact. Everything you claim is opinion. Get an education.
Just as expected by a neoConfederate. Everything I stated is fact. Everything you claim is opinion. Get an education.
Spoken just like an Anglophobe, Jeffrey. Get an education. And learn how to spell your freakin’ name. Just as a start, I mean. We of course have a long way to go after that. But it’s a start.
Spoken just like an anti-intellectual, Asswipe. Get an education. And learn how to spell your freakin’ name.
And there’s no place I want to go with you.
My advice to you – go back to the hit-and-run bon mots. It’s your best defense.