Rick Perry: Hey, It Would Be Mean To Charge Out-of-state Tuition To Illegals

One has to wonder: if Perry is so squishy on an issue that is very important to Conservatives, what else will he be squishy about?

(MSNBC) “We have, for decades, had a federal government that has absolutely failed in its constitutional duty to defend our border,” Perry said.

“I’m a governor. I don’t have the pleasure of standing on the stage and criticizing. I have to deal with these issues,” he later added.

Perry continued, “In 2001, we had this choice: Are we going to kick these children over to the curb and say you cannot have access to college? Because the fact of the matter is there’s no way they could pay the out-of-state tuition. And are we going to have them on the government dole over here because they’re not educated? Or are we going to have them in our institutions of higher learning, paying in state tuition, pursuing citizenship?

“So in Texas, we made the decision that it was in our best interest as a state — economically and otherwise — to have those young people in our institutions of higher learning becoming educated to be part of our skilled workforce.”

So, you provided illegal aliens with a taxpayer subsidized higher education, giving them the means to displace legal American citizens from jobs? Um, but, wait, said illegals with a taxpayer subsidized higher education cannot legally work in the United States, so, you’ve essentially provided them with a taxpayer subsidized higher education for no reason?

But, yes, you do “kick them to the curb”, preferably the curb in the country they came from.

As Allahpundit points out: Really? There are no jobs for illegals anywhere in Texas to earn tuition money? I was under the impression that there are quite a lot of jobs available to them, especially since Perry opposes e-Verify.

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23 Responses to “Rick Perry: Hey, It Would Be Mean To Charge Out-of-state Tuition To Illegals”

  1. gitarcarver says:

    And are we going to have them on the government dole over here because they’re not educated?

    Huh?

    Why are they going to be on the government dole? If they are not here legally, why are we paying them benefits?

  2. captainfish says:

    Because the fact of the matter is there’s no way they could pay the out-of-state tuition.

    So, I take it then that EVERYONE attending Texas universities from any place in the world, will be getting in-state tuition as well. There really is no way anyone can afford the out-of-state tuition.

    Heck, most people can afford to pay the in-state tuition either. Isn’t that the reason why the gov’t became the sole provider of collegiate grants and loans?

    And, who says that Texas has to pay welfare to illegals? If you stop it, they might stop coming for the free money??!

    I agree. If he is super squishy on this, a little thing, how much more squishy is he gonna be on actual cuts to welfare and edumacation?

  3. Rob in Katy says:

    Here is the deal, once they start college, they are no longer the poor illegal kids of illegal parents, they are ILLEGAL ADULTS! Now say that 3 times, “ILLEGAL ADULTS!, ILLEGAL ADULTS!, ILLEGAL ADULTS!” See it does make sense, we are paying for ILLEGAL ADULTS, in our country “ILLEGALLY” to go to college and displace TEXAS CITIZENS from a rightful and legal place in said college… See, doesn’t it all make since once I explain it?
    Glad to have been of help,
    Rob in Katy

  4. captainfish says:

    Yep. makes perfect sense.

    Perry prefers an illegal to have a job over a Texan.
    Perry prefers an illegal to be in college over a Texan.
    Perry prefers an illegal to have an education over a Texan.
    Perry prefers an illegal to have easy access to all states (via expensive highway built by illegal union workers) over American citizens having lower taxes.

  5. Perry is working hard to “alienate” conservative voters.

  6. Word says:

    Perry is done.

    Herman Cain is done after piling on Perry and basically accusing him of being a racist.

    With Bachman and Perry sliding, Cain throwing his candidacy away with his own “HEARTLESS” moment.

    I rather suspect in the next week we will see Sarah Palin join the race.

  7. captainfish says:

    Wait, when did Cain call Perry racist and why?

    But, as we have seen.. it may be true with Perry preferring the illegal race over Texan.

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  9. Word says:

    Sunday Morning Talk Circuit”

    Businessman Herman Cain on Sunday called it “insulting” that the family of Rick Perry leased a hunting camp with a racially charged name well into the 1980s and possibly even later.

    There “isn’t a more vile, negative word than the N-word, and for him to leave it there as long as he did, until before, I hear, they finally painted over it, is just plain insensitive to a lot of black people in this country,” said Cain, who is running against Perry and a group of others for the Republican presidential nomination.

    I thought we had moved beyond the racial thing in 2011. I mean after all a Black man was among the top 3 contentders for the GOP nomination and he goes and pulls this crap.

    It is his “Heartless” moment and while the right will be mysteriously silent on it….you mark my words his numbers will slide dramatically in the coming few days because of this.

  10. captainfish says:

    Wait. I’m confused. Because Cain called Perry out on the long-time use of a camp called N****, that makes CAIN on the wrong side of the argument? Exactly how?

    If I was running for office, I’m white, and my counterpart who was black, had a boat that he and his family have leased for decades was named “White Cracka'”….I’d go after that as well. To ignore it would wrong.

    But, there is more wrong with Cain’s campaign than this non-real stuff… take the recent departure of another of his workers……

    “”It’s a very amicable departure,” Carmichael said. “He wished me the best of luck. And I will forever be fond of him and appreciative of this opportunity.”

    In June, two other staffers left the Cain campaign. CNN asked Carmichael if her and Boustany’s departures are a sign of more trouble for Cain.

    “No comment,” she said.

    “I have served Mister Cain for more than a year,” Carmichael added. “We’ve had ups and downs. We’ve had tons of money and very little money. And I’ve stuck through some very difficult and some very rewarding times on the campaign. And it was just time for me to go pursue other professional opportunities.””

    Either this is a political machine worker who is only out for making the most money she can from a campaign she determines to be on top. She’s a campaign jumper. Or, there is some real personality issues with Cain.

    But then, Cain is a businessman and I am sure he has stepped on alot of toes to make his business a success.

  11. david7134 says:

    I have to agree with you captian. I am for Cain over Perry. I still think Perry to be a loud mouthed liberal.

  12. Word says:

    Perry is gone….and your missing the bigger picture here.

    Cain just threw out the RACE card….the race card has been flung at conservatives for 3 years now.

    Cain is flinging it. That puts him on the wrong side of the argument.

    Mark my words. Cain just died. Hes gone. Dead.

    *****And to top it off…..he was commenting on a story that was hardly even verified yet and he did it by RACE BAITING perry.*****

    In other words accusing Perry of something he really didnt do by slinging racism inuendos all around Sunday talk circuit.

    Good by Mr. Cain. You had a shot. Now your just another angry black man.

  13. Adobe Walls says:

    If the rock thingy gets traction it hurts Cain as much as Perry. I say the story dies without much more ado.

  14. gitarcarver says:

    In other words accusing Perry of something he really didnt do by slinging racism inuendos all around Sunday talk circuit.

    I’m sorry, but what didn’t Perry do? He attended the camp before his father bought the lease. Perry claims the rock was painted over “a few weeks” after the family bought the lease, but never says what he and his family called the place when they were negotiating for the property or when they used the land prior to the lease.

    Why is it that we applauded Cain when he claims blacks were brainwashed by the Democrats and yet excoriate Cain when he says the camp’s name – and Perry’s reaction to that name – was “insensitive.”

    Are we saying that Cain can’t talk about race unless he uses it against the Democrats? How hypocritical is that?

    To me, this shows another crack in Perry’s ability to be sure of anything. When the story first broke, Perry hemmed and hawed, not knowing what to say or do. (In other words, he acted like Obama.) He has since come out and given a less than a satisfactory explanation on the name of the camp.

    He seems to be unwilling to say the camp thing was a mistake, just as he continues to defend the ridiculous idea of allowing illegal immigrants to pay “in state rates” for college tuition.

    Personally, I am getting the impression of Perry that he is a politician who is willing to say and do what people want to hear, rather than stand up for any principled stance held by conservatives.

    I hope I am wrong.

  15. Word says:

    You people think Im defening Perry. Im not. Hes nust another neoliberal or neoconservative of the Bush Mold which we do not need in 2012.

    I am not defending Perry.

    Im attacking CAIN for slinging the “RACE CARD” at a fellow republican. I was actually a CAIN fan who had my vote, until his “HEARTLESS” moment. Now to me hes just another angry black man.

    All my life I’ve been a racist because Im a Conservative. The GOP finally fields a black candidate worth voting for and the race hardly starts and hes slinging “RACISM” around.

    Trust me the BLACK MR> CAIN does not need to sling the race card……IF perry is a racist WAPO and every other MSM outlet on the planet will do a good job getting the message out.

    I thought this party had moved beyond the racism issue in 2011.

    Apparently not.

  16. gitarcarver says:

    I thought this party had moved beyond the racism issue in 2011.

    The problem is that racism still exists in this country. “Moving on” is not the same thing as “ignoring.”

    The charge from the left is that we as a party or group are all racists just because we are conservatives. Cain, on the other hand, said that Perry had acted in an insensitive manner in one instance. Cain did not blame everyone for Perry’s actions.

    Cain had a valid issue and chose to comment upon it. Perry has responded and Cain has accepted his explanation, although I find it to be lacking in some areas. I accept it, but but it wanting.

    To me, this is nothing more than if Perry had found a candidate that was “pro family” having multiple affairs. Or a candidate that was advocating higher taxes found to have not paid taxes.

    I don’t see this as a “race card” issue so much as I see it as a comment on a specific incident.

  17. Adobe Walls says:

    The problem is that the word is so offensive to the entirety of humanity that any decent person must climb any mountain or swim an sea to erase it lest someone be offended by it’s existence. This is the same thinking that has moonbats trying to erase the “N word” from Twain’s books. If that word is so offensive in a work of 19Th century literature that history must be eradicated, why is it acceptable in modern rap music or even in common speech among black people.

  18. captainfish says:

    Yeah Adobe, conservatives, especially white conservatives are held to a much higher standard. Why? Because everyone expects us to have higher standards. Why do the left and the liberals get away with mud-slinging, race-baiting, name-calling, lying, bribery, vote-buying, influence-peddling, money-laundering, etc…? Because no one holds them accountable to higher standards. No one expects them to behave appropriately.

    “oh, that’s just rap music… it’s ok to use the N word there”

    “oh, he’s black, so of course he’s a gang member who dropped out of school.”

    “oh, he’s a liberal, can’t really expect him to follow the rule of law, so just ignore it”.

    We must hold everyone to a high standard, ESPECIALLY those wanting to be our president. If voting for liberals has taught us anything, is that words and actions matter.

    The Perry-Cain interaction was an issue to determine one’s position. Could it have been a low blow? Sure. As many questions are during this time in the political fight. But, it brings up issues that help voters see how the pol reacts, responds, and what they do about it.

    To many, bringing up the support of illegals in his state is racist. To me, its an issue of character. To some, bringing up the issue of the N-word camp is racist. TO me, it is an issue of character. Especially in how he responds.

    Look at what happened to Pres GWB during his race to presidency. He was slammed with the anti-christian thing. He was attacked with the drunkard and drunk driving issues. Low blows? Everyone agreed that they were but these are issues that do show ones character. And, to me, it showed an astounding amount of character how he handled the questions directly and forthrightly. He did not hem-haw around them.

    In the end, we can all agree that Bush is a great man of character and stature. He is a social republican yes, but his character determined how he would stand up under pressure.

    If Cain didn’t bring up this issue, another would and nothing would be said of the “accuser”. But since Cain is black and a black conservative, then the “accuser has to be attacked.

  19. Adobe Walls says:

    The proper response to a reporter’s question on this would be “what a moron you are” and then move on. Understanding that having certain words in a book or on a rock is a big deal to moonbats doesn’t mean it actually is a big deal. This is like complaining about the confederate flag. Giving race baiters a hecklers veto over whatever they choose to make an issue of does no one any good, least of all those who are supposed to be represented by the racers.

  20. captainfish says:

    Found this over at Anthony Watts’ site.

    Seems a lot of places things objects LIFE etc, even in Texas, had names like the one in question.

  21. gitarcarver says:

    Understanding that having certain words in a book or on a rock is a big deal to moonbats doesn’t mean it actually is a big deal.

    How one deals with the controversy is a big deal.

  22. Adobe Walls says:

    What controversy?

  23. gitarcarver says:

    What controversy?

    Being an ostrich doesn’t change anything.

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