I blame you for refusing to become a cult member
Higher high tides, supercharged by rising sea levels, could flood all or parts of an estimated $34 billion worth of real estate along the nation’s coasts within just 30 years, a new report concludes.
Within the span of a 30-year mortgage, as many as 64,000 buildings and roughly 637,000 properties along the ocean and its connecting waterways could be at least partially below the tidal boundary level, the nonprofit Climate Central stated in a report released Thursday morning.
Seas are forecast to rise from 8 inches to 23 inches along the nation’s coasts by 2050, with the higher increases along the northern Gulf Coast and mid-Atlantic. As the oceans rise, every inch of additional water is expected to move farther inland making flood events worse and putting more properties at risk.
That’s a hell of a spread of inches, eh? Seas rose just 8 inches in the 20th Century, which is exactly average for a Holocene century. They are not accelerating. When you do not get 8-23 by 2050, who pays the price for this bit of doom-mongering? Who gets punished for publishing this with zero skepticism?
More than 48,000 properties could be entirely below the high tide lines by 2050, mostly in Louisiana, Florida and Texas.
Nearly 300,000 buildings could be at least partially under water by 2100. The value of buildings and properties below the high water level could rise to $108 billion, not including some 90 counties where the nonprofit couldn’t get tax assessor data. (big snip)
The report’s conclusions aren’t meant to frighten or discourage people, Bain said. He hopes they give people information to influence outcomes and push officials at every level of government to begin working together now to adopt needed laws and regulations.
Right, right, not frighten, just get Government to mandate policies.
Unsurprisingly, there are lots and lots of doomy stories, like at the Washington Post
Rising seas could swallow millions of U.S. acres within decades
The water is coming.
There’s no longer much doubt about that, as scientists have increasingly documented how the warming of the planet has accelerated sea level rise along coasts around the world.
But an analysis published Thursday by the research nonprofit Climate Central reveals a troubling dimension of the economic toll that could unfold in the United States, as hundreds of thousands of homes, offices and other privately owned properties slip below swelling tide lines over the next few decades.
It’s an analysis by a far left cult organization with a lot of skin in the game, based on computer models, not reality.
Zinc stock is nearly depleted in Europe and aluminium / tin smelters have dropped to about half capacity – all for carbon footprint goals and cotton candy rainbows. Europe is literally devouring itself in response to US anxiety over Russia tending to its back yard. Something (or some things) will happen to bring all the green madness to a halt, but so far the Europeans are still bitterly clinging to their guns and bibles – I mean their Gaia cult and windmills.
Until the lying stops none of us are safe. And until we surrender our sovereignty the beatings will continue.
MAGA
Oh, noes..something that “could happen”, again.
And using monetary damage as a metric is BS, obviously because things go up in price and there’s more structures and people living on the coasts.
The Bee-“California looter frustrated his new TV requires electricity to work”.
I just saw something that stated between 35 and 50 Trump supporters were arrested yesterday. Oddly the media was alerted to these raids before.
I saw the same. But I can’t find any confirmation, maybe tomorrow. If true, this is very bad and will set people in motion.
Confirmed, 50 houses. Bad news.
Steve Bannon made the claim on a right-wing radio show.
Did anyone find any credible confirmation of this rumor started by Steve Bannon?
I’m not worried about it, the oligarks are buying up the coastal properties to build multimillion dollar palaces. Example? Obozo, in Hawaii and Marthas Vineyard.
Brandon has caused $34 billion in damages in less than 30 DAYS!
Who are we kidding here?
#HeilBrandon
#WeBeatPharma!
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William Teach: They are not accelerating.
Evidence from satellite observations indicates that sea level rise is accelerating. See Nerem et al., Climate-change–driven accelerated sea-level rise detected in the altimeter era, PNAS 2018: “we show that this rate is accelerating at 0.084 ± 0.025 mm/y^2, which agrees well with climate model projections.”
Well, the science is settled.
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Dear Zach:
The operative words are “could flood.”
There is a reason that all of the projections have failed. It is:
GITGO – Garbage In – Garbage Out.
Dr. Spenser explains it all:
“The most important thing to remember about climate models which are used to project future global warming is that they were “tuned” with the assumption I started this article with: that the climate system is in a natural state of energy balance, and that there is no long-term climate change unless humans cause it.
This is an arbitrary and illogical assumption. The climate system is an example of a “nonlinear dynamical system”, which means it can change all by itself. For example, slow changes in the rate of vertical overturning of the world’s oceans can cause global warming (or global cooling) with no “external forcing” of the climate system whatsoever.
Instead, the climate models are “tuned” to not produce natural climate change. If a 100-year run of the model produces change, the model is adjusted to removed the “drift”. The models do not produce global energy balance from “first physical principles”, because none of the processes controlling that balance are known to sufficient accuracy. Instead, the models are “fudged” to produce energy balance, based upon the modelers’ assumption of no natural climate change. Then, the models are used as “proof” that only increasing CO2 has caused recent warming.
This is circular reasoning.”
https://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-101/
James Lewis: GITGO – Garbage In – Garbage Out.
Projections vs Observations
James Lewis: “The most important thing to remember about climate models which are used to project future global warming is that they were ‘tuned’ with the assumption I started this article with: that the climate system is in a natural state of energy balance, and that there is no long-term climate change unless humans cause it.”
It’s a basic principle of physics that if energy is gained, then the system warms. However, contrary to the claim that the models are “fudged” on the basis of no natural climate change, in fact, modern models include natural effects. There is a great deal of research on clouds, increased photosynthesis, atmospheric moistening, volcanism, and other possible natural effects.
Spencer argues there could be sources of cooling in the system, such as the deep ocean upwelling that could counter the heating at the surface. However, measurements of ocean temperatures at depth show that the ocean itself is warming. Furthermore, as Spencer points out, if there is greenhouse warming, then the stratosphere will cool, which is what is observed. Stratospheric cooling is not explained by deep ocean overturning, but it is consistent with an increasing greenhouse effect.
Also, keep in mind that Spencer, while a reputable scientist, has not been able to convince his own peers of his position, so such an appeal to authority can’t be authoritative. Finally, Spencer’s own analysis of the atmosphere’s lower troposphere shows a warming of 0.15 °C/decade since 2000.
Dear Zach:
The take away is this.
The studies are fudged.
That’s why the predictions never happen.
The take away is this.
The theory of “AGW” predicts the Earth will warm as atmospheric CO2 concentration increases. Guess what?
Do you believe that the temperature measurements/ calculations (including Dr Spencer’s) are “fudged”? Or are the CO2 measurements “fudged”?
James Lewis: That’s why the predictions never happen.
Projections vs Observations
You cited Roy Spencer. Spencer’s analysis of satellite data shows a warming of 0.15 °C/decade since 2000.
Mr Lewis,
You have posted Dr Spencer’s opinion several times.
Note that the Earth is warming as predicted. Dr Spencer denied that CO2 was a significant component of warming until recently.
Dr Spencer refers to the “slow overturning of the world’s oceans” where the oceans transfer heat from the atmosphere to the ocean (La Nina in the Pacific) or from the ocean to the atmosphere (El Nino). Where does that excess heat with which the oceans “play” come from?
Other commenters here are claiming (again) that the Earth has been cooling the past 7 years or so. Where is that heat going?
Dearest Elwood:
Irrespective of what Dr. Spenser may may have said otherwise….
The studies are fudged. They always say “could” or “would” or “it is thought….”
And BTW….. FL is not under water….Hurricanes are not more numerous..
And consensus is not science…
And who cares if wine grapes grow again in northern England???
Mr Lewis,
Scientists are very conservative when describing data and what it may imply.
So yes, you will see “suggests”, “is consistent with”, “may” and “it is thought”.
Your reference to “fudged” studies suggests you believe the scientists faked the data. Really?
Finally yes, “consensus” is part of science! Explain how it can be otherwise. Consensus:
That doesn’t mean consensus is a proof, since as you well know:
The evidence to date supports the explanation that the increase in human generated atmospheric CO2 has resulted in the current century+ bout of global warming. Scientific theories are always accepted provisionally since further experimentation/observation can result in modification of the theory.
James Lewis: And consensus is not science…
We cited data.
The sea is rising. So what. The globe is warmer. So what. The only answer by the high school children and Jeff is global communism with loss of our wealth. No, that is not going to happen. I am content with my weather and if the government gets out of my way I will be fine.
Besides, the Dems have said that if not elected there will be civil war. Fine.
david7134: So what.
Addressing the problem of global warming sooner will cost less than mitigation later, and will result in less permanent damage to humanity’s shared natural inheritence.
david7134: Besides, the Dems have said that if not elected there will be civil war. Fine.
A faction of the political right have been threatening civil war for some time. They even stormed the Capitol in order to disrupt the peaceful transfer of presidential power (and to hang the Vice President).
” They even stormed the Capitol in order to disrupt the peaceful transfer of presidential power (and to hang the Vice President).”
First off Zach Pence is a Republican and I read and heard many times during the Trump admin. the left (that’s people on your team) saying to kill Trump and Pence, wish they would die “slow”, get assassinated etc. So don’t get all “patriotic” and “offended” when a couple radicals (yes, we have them too not just you guys with BLM, Antifa etc) spout off some stupid shit during a rally/riot.
At least they didn’t burn anything down (let alone 26 cities and $3billion in damages plus 30 people murdered). Hell, the big bad “insurrection” run by old people and the FBI didn’t even pull down a statue in the Capitol did they?
Nobody “stormed the Capitol” and nobody wanted to stop the transfer of peaceful power. WE wanted you bastard commies to acknowledge we had a valid concern about the honesty of the election (which we had been saying for 3 months and IGNORED, called names and blocked at every turn). If we wanted to “disrupt” the transfer of power we would have come ARMED and you would have been shown the door. That’s how real fukin insurrections work.
You are the ones who started the last civil war and you are the ones trying to start one now. Chaos and communism is in your inferior un American DNA.
MAGA, muther.
Lucas typed: Nobody “stormed the Capitol” and nobody wanted to stop the transfer of peaceful power
According to the facts, you are incorrect.
Lucas, are you claiming the hundreds of MAGAts that stormed the Capitol to stop the peaceful transfer of power were just radical MAGAts who erected a gallows and shouted “Hang Mike Pence”?
We are not implying that the MAGAts storming the Capitol realized their tactics were to delay the certification, although tRump’s lawyer Powell admitted that was the objective. The rampaging MAGAts were used by tRump and his lawless advisors (e.g., Sid Powell, Rudy, Eastman, Brooks, and other Congress members.
L.G.Brandon!, L.G.Brandon!: I read and heard many times during the Trump admin. the left
(that’s people on your team)saying to kill Trump and PenceSomebody on the Internet said something. Meanwhile, the President of the United States: Trump said rioters were right to call for vice-president’s death
L.G.Brandon!, L.G.Brandon!: Nobody “stormed the Capitol” and nobody wanted to stop the transfer of peaceful power.
People have been charged and some already found guilty of seditious conspiracy for their attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power.
Dearest Elwood and Zach:
Liz Cheney’s girl friend, Cassidy Hutchinson, lies.
“Rising Seas To Cause $34 Billion In Damage Within 30 Years”
That’s actually “over” 30 years and is for “64,000 buildings and roughly 637,000 properties”.
So, we’re agreed then, the amortized cost of this catastrophe is about 5 cents per person per year, right?
Carol and others that don’t know the z people. Note the above comment and response. The z clearly does not know is global communism will have influence on his precious climate, but we must have global communism or else we are doomed. Even though there is no real danger from our climate changing as it has done for thousands of years. Then a dig at the right when the treat of civil war was voiced by Biden’s spoke person. See, not bright.
david7134: we must have global communism or else we are doomed.
Communism would be highly destructive of the environment, economy, technological progress, and liberty.
So you readily admit you are too stupid to figure out the force behind destruction of our energy and wealth. Because that is the agenda, not some idiotic rise in sea level that is impossible to alter.
Porter or david: SQUIRREL!
@ZACHRIEL who said….. Communism would be highly destructive of the environment, economy, technological progress, and liberty.
Agreed Zach. The question then remains why is the AGW NAZI movement so dedicated to ripping power from the West. The EU, England, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and The United States with literally nothing to replace it?
Agreed Zach. Communist China would destroy the west and the United States due to the lack of their ability to power their weapons of war to defend the world against crazed communists that DO NOT CARE about the world but rather Only care about RULING the world.
You tried a little experiment with Ukraine and it has backfired horribly in your faces. Russia, China, and a 100 other countries are no longer using the Petrol Dollar but the Yuan and Ruble and have become stronger economically than they were prior to kissing the West’s ass.
Agreed Zach. There are thousands of papers written by Chinese Scientists who pretend to be nonpartisan, nonbiased, and have only the best interests of the world at heart. If this is so explain to me how having no power to run our weapons against a Communist country that has all the POWER to themselves because they do not give a Bleep about AGW?
Somehow Zach I do not think that we can fire our missiles with Windmills or solar panels. Fight a sustained battle on the battlefield with electric vehicles. Our fighter jets cannot defend our fleet from attacks when they have to return every 30 minutes to refuel with 15 tons of Electric batteries.
I have said repeatedly I do not care what fuels the planet.
I do care about a proper transition from Fossil fuels to green. Your side does not. Your side would rip the west of its ability to defend itself even as today Biden is depleting the Oil Reserve for Political purposes rather than a true national emergency.
The AGW Movement is an insidious communist Chinese attempt to destroy the west’s ability to prevent them from world domination and the little people who cannot even tell time swallow their propaganda hook, line, and sinker.
Does that mean the vast majority of AGW proponents are communists?
Oh No. It means the vast number of AGW proponents are sheeple that have been lied to so long that they truly believe they will die in 10 years if we don’t pull the plug right now. These same people threaten us with civil war if we do not vote for them.
AGW is a communist scam to destroy the west’s ability to protect itself. Biden and the democrats have followed it hook, line and sinker but that does not make Biden a communist. That just makes Biden a threat to democracies around the world without even knowing he is so.
Facts Matter: they do not give a Bleep about AGW
China is already moving towards green energy, investing more than any other country, but they are a developing country. Looking at previous cases of industrialization, they believe fossil fuels can bootstrap their economy. They still emit far less than the U.S. per capita, and their emission intensity, while still high, has dropped significantly.
“Per capita”. The fallback word for liars. China produces about 5 times the emissions as we. Admit the truth or end the discussion.
Trying to drive the US back into the dark ages is the stupidest way on earth to “save the planet”. We need more technology not less. We need more capitalism not more socialism. We need the industry to evolve not be forced to change over night. This whole proposition of climate change is ludicrous to begin with. Climate has always changed. To attribute a dangerous apocalypse to CO2 is also ludicrous.
The fact you have made it into the State Religion is enough to make it a lie. The fact you have to FORCE people to obey makes it a tyranny.
L.G.Brandon!, L.G.Brandon!: “Per capita”.
That’s right. An average citizen of China emits half of what the average American does. The U.S. is one of the highest emitters per capita.
Country, tons CO2 per capita per year (2016)
France, 5.13
China, 7.38
Germany, 9.44
U.S., 15.52
China is already moving towards green energy
What they say and what they do are two different things.
A vast majority of their green is hydroelectric.
World’s Worst Polluter China Increases Coal Production by 300 Million Tons
BUT THEY ARE A DEVLOPING COUNTRY? Seriously. With a 14.4 trillion GDP the west continues to treat them as developing so they can destroy the air we breathe while you AGW NAZIS penalize the west because you can.
They still emit far less per capita than the USA. This is typical of an AGW NAZI. The USA has 330 million people. China has 1.5 billion. Per capita? No doubt
Emitted CO2 by country.
China 9,876.50
United States 4,744.50
China is the largest producer and consumer of coal in the world. It is also the largest user of coal-generated electricity, with over a thousand coal-fired power stations. The share of coal in the energy mix declined during the 2010s, falling from 80% in 2010 to 58% in 2019.
Not to mention they are building coal power plants all across the world in 3rd world countries. See their Belt and Road initiative. Meanwhile back at the CCP’s AGW NAZI headquarters, they are completely blinded to reality snowflakes scream we are all going to die unless the USA and the EU stop using FOSSIL FUELS. Meanwhile, Chairman XI laughs his ass off at your stupidity.
Everything about your defense of CHINA IS FAKE NEWS. Again the AGW NAZI”S led by YOU and DOWD and HAIRY want to destroy the US economy and more importantly the USA and the WEST’S ability to defend the world against communist aggression.
We will never stop fighting you CCP sympathizers because right now you are the biggest threat to democracy in the entire World. Not Donald J. Trump and MAGA.
Take away the west’s fossil fuels and you hand the world over to communist China and their 1.5 billion people along with Russia’s help.
Facts Matter: A vast majority of their green is hydroelectric.
That’s right. Renewables account for 30% of China’s total power generation, with 16% of that from hydroelectric and wind at 8%.
But your claim was they weren’t developing their green energy production, and that was false. They have committed to peak emissions by 2030 and net zero by 2060.
Facts Matter: BUT THEY ARE A DEVLOPING COUNTRY?
Though having made great economic strides, 400 million people in China are still challenged by energy poverty. China a middle-income developing country.
Facts Matter: The USA has 330 million people. China has 1.5 billion. Per capita?
That’s right. Assuming you believe in the value of individual humans, then per capita is an appropriate measure. If, however, you think a Chinese person deserves less of the benefits of modernity and industrialization than an American, then you may take a different view.
That’s right. Assuming you believe in the value of individual humans, then per capita is an appropriate measure. If, however, you think a Chinese person deserves less of the benefits of modernity and industrialization than an American, then you may take a different view.
So now according to leftists like Zach if we point out the “per capita” fallacy we are now racists? Fuck you. You may think your lies and trickery work but we are now on to your silly tricks. Go peddle you bullshit somewhere else Greta & Gore already filled our toilets.
The “value of individual humans” has nothing to do with a nations pollution. The quantity does. And their commitment to climate. The RED Chinese are little more than barbarians. All their progress since gunpowder has been stolen from the west. You fit right in with your regressive thinking and your science denial.
MAGA
L.G.Brandon!, L.G.Brandon!: if we point out the “per capita” fallacy
Add “fallacy” to the things you don’t understand. Per capita emissions are important, as are emission intensities, as well as cumulative emissions.
Lucas,
Why are always so angry and aching to fight? Are your well-educated and wealthy siblings as hateful and mean-spirited as you?
You ejaculate “Fuck You!” like you ejaculate into teenage girls.
So Zachriel is “tricking” you by pointing out your ignorance. “Per capita” is trickery! LOL.
So that’s why you stay enraged.
Everyone,
The Z is lying or at least not appreciating the complete truthful situation. The great majority of Chinese do not drive, they are dirt poor. Of course the Z will have some number on total cars versus population, another lie or obfuscation. The Chinese could give a crap about the environment. Their air is poison, water poison, anything they do is without concern for toxic elements. Just go there, the numbers are lies.
And me and mine are more deserving than the Chinese scum. Don’t let the child Z think he has some ridiculous moral ground.
Remember this Z is just a high school kid with mush for brains and is vomiting liberal web site crap.
L.G.Brandon!, L.G.Brandon!: we are now racists?
david7134: me and mine are more deserving than the Chinese scum
Does that answer your question?
Z,
You obviously condemn racism, thus making you a bigot and the exact same as any racist. We have been at war with the Chinamen since 1950. They just killed at least one million of your fellow citizens. If you will not stand up for your country, then leave, oh, first get out of your parents house.
Diva Porter: They just killed at least one million of your fellow citizens.
Did they? How do you figure? Your Lard and Salivater was president as your fellow citizens were dying at higher rates than most other nations. We thought you felt Trump vaccines were killing Americans, not Covid. You are so confused.
Diva Porter: If you will not stand up for your country, then leave
So you feel that calling people names is standing up for your country? Like a typical connie, you think those who disagree should be deported. LOL.
Diva Porter,
You are a delight!! There are more impoverished Chinese than there are Americans of all stripes!
We fully understand that you consider caucasians superior to blacks, hispanics, Arabs, Chinese, Indians, Japanese, Ethiopians and christians superior to Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Hindus, atheists, Jainists and men superior to women. Straights superior to gays.
Diva Porter: Z is just a high school kid with mush for brains and is vomiting liberal web site crap.
As we’ve pointed out before, if what you say is true, you should be embarrassed being so completely and thoroughly outwitted by a high school kid who’s hardly trying. LOL. You’re a national treasure.
Jeff,
You can’t read, show we’re I made a claim of few poor chinamens. As to being superior, I hold myself greatly superior to you, as most here feel the same about their relation to you.
Zachriel says:
September 11, 2022 at 12:38 pm
Facts Matter: The USA has 330 million people. China has 1.5 billion. Per capita?
That’s right. ********************Assuming you believe in the value of individual humans, then per capita is an appropriate measure.******************* If, however, you think a Chinese person deserves less of the benefits of modernity and industrialization than an American, then you may take a different view.
Typical of AGW NAZI’S. When they have no answer they attack other people with race-baiting. As has been constantly pointed out, CO2 in the atmosphere does not care about race, creed, color, religion, or nation of origin.
TOTAL CO2 by the EU: 2,733.55
TOTAL CO2 by the USA: 4744.50
TOTAL CO2 emissions per year from the EU and AMERICA is 7,478.05
TOTAL CO2 emissions per year by CHINA is 9876.50
CHINA Emits more CO2 than over 100 countries in the world combined. Yet you take to race-baiting for the defense of your mother China.
Whenever anyone points to China You take to race-baiting to defend the CCP and denigrate America, The EU, and the WEST.
I do not care if China uses fossil fuels and apparently neither do you. I have pointed out that the CCP lies about its green agenda. They are building hydroelectric to cut into the PERCENT OF FOSSIL FUELS THEY USE.
The dam body was completed in 2006. The power plant of the dam project was completed and fully functional as of July 4, 2012. HENCE why the stats I pointed out showed that China suddenly from 2010-2020 cut its CO2 PERCENTAGE. It did not cut the amount only the percentage of co2 from electric generation because the largest dam in the world came online in 2012.
N O T THE A M O U N T…..and certainly not the amount of air pollution and CO2 they emit. They continue as we speak to build coal-fired power plants around the world in poor countries. Is this acceptable to you as well?
You and your band of CO2 NAZI’S do not care about co2. You only care that the fossil fuels used by the USA are drastically curtailed and finally eliminated so that the CCP of CHINA can rule the world.
Because energy is power and unfortunately Windmills and solar panels do not translate to power. Only things that make rockets and jets fly and tanks roll across the landscape keep the countries of the world safe from other countries.
Your claim was that China was not addressing the climate issue. That was false.
Facts Matter: Whenever anyone points to China You take to race-baiting to defend the CCP and denigrate America, The EU, and the WEST.
You are the one who refuses to acknowledge that the Chinese emit less per capita than the U.S. Furthermore, they have less cumulative emissions per capita. That’s an important point if you consider that people in China have as much a right to the benefits of modernity and industrialization as people in the U.S. You have clearly stated otherwise. You have also ignored patent racism by other commenters on this thread.
Keep milking that dead cow, KiddieZ.
#HeilBrandon
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Why does no one ever respond to these valuable insights from drowningpuppies?
WE told you three days ago what Garland and his thugs were doing but you (as usual) waived it away with bullshit demands for “proof”. You are a regular Nazi. You follow The Party line no matter what and no matter who it kills.
There was a stolen election which you refuse to admit and now there is a political purge going on which you refuse to see. You are a denier of the first order. And as such you are an enabler and therefore you have partial responsibility for everything going on just like your “peaceful Muslims” and normal Germans are/were.
Just like your hands are red with the blood of the prenatal children you’ve helped murder by your active support. You should be ashamed.
MAGA means FREEDOM! Stop the pedo purge. Restore the presidency and the Republic.
Nope, land is subsiding. Deal with it.
david (Porter Diva) typed: You obviously condemn racism, thus making you a bigot and the exact same as any racist.
So… condemning racism is bigotry and condemning bigotry is racism!
Ah petitio, you’re a national treasure. Never change!
Jeff,
You clearly have difficulty under concepts. It is above your head. I would explain, but in the end you would still not get it.