Scientists Call COVID Raccoon Dog Study “Pure Trash”

OK, they didn’t actually call it that, they used more measured, scientific terms

Scientists discredit raccoon dog Covid origin study

A study suggesting that raccoon dogs may have started the Covid pandemic is “risibly thin” and compiled by authors who have previously claimed to have “incontrovertible” proof of a market origin, scientists have warned.

Miriam Webster defines “risible” as “arousing or provoking laughter. Associated with, relating to, or used in laughter.” So, the study is so thin it causes laughter. So, pure trash

Yet after the study was published last night, several experts said the claims were misleading, arguing that the sale of raccoon dogs at the market was already widely known, and that discovering their DNA proved little about the origins of the outbreak.

A letter from Biosafety Now, a group of experts calling for tighter control on lab experiments which could create deadly pathogens, said: “The data provide no substantive new information about the origins of Covid-19, even if taken at face value.

“There is no evidence that this raccoon dog was even infected with SARS-CoV-2, as there was also human DNA in the sample, and the viral material could just as easily have come from an infected human.”

A statement from the Scientific Advisory Group for the Origins of Novel Pathogens, the World Health Organisation group looking into how the pandemic started, also stated that the paper “does not provide conclusive evidence as to the intermediate host or origins of the virus”.

The study was leaked, and not even published till Monday, and, scientists already knew it was trash in relation to showing any link that Wuhan Flu came from raccoon dogs. It seems like a ready excuse 3 years on, when they had been blaming it on bats and pangolins, anything but that laboratory which was investigating coronaviruses and has a shoddy record with lab leaks and was right down the road.

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21 Responses to “Scientists Call COVID Raccoon Dog Study “Pure Trash””

  1. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    The scientific community is awaiting ANY evidence supporting the ‘lab-leak’ hypothesis. Perhaps President Biden’s release of the FBI and DOE ‘low to moderate’ confidence evidence will bolster the argument that the SARS-CoV-2 came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).

    In the meantime, the available evidence* supports, but DOES NOT PROVE, the hypothesis that the Huanan market was the likely site of origin for the pandemic, that is, from an intermediate infected species to humans.

    From Mr Teach’s citation:

    Raccoon dogs – a fox-like mammal farmed for their fur and known to be susceptible to coronaviruses – were the most prevalent species for which data was found, but others included porcupines, bamboo rats, Himalayan marmots, masked palm civets and Siberian weasels.

    They add that by tracing the animals, for which there is data, back to the farms and regions from where they came, further data may be found on the origins of the virus.

    For whatever reason, the Chinese government has tried to downplay the possibility that the pandemic originated at the Huanan market.

    For whatever reason, the United States far-right has tried to downplay the possibility that the pandemic originated at the Huanan market, instead spreading the conspiracy tale that the virus originated from the WIV.

    *Comingling of animal and Covid genetic material from cages and equipment. The early cases came from around the Huanan market.

  2. H says:

    Judge Brown’s decisions such as on ruling against mandatory vaccination of federal employees are often overturned by the 5th District’s Court of Appeals.
    Teach do you know the origin of the COVID virus? Are your own assumptions based on partisan politics or have you an open mind on its origins?

  3. H says:

    The Bible commands unclean (sick) people to cover their faces. How do you feel about that?

    • James Lewis says:

      Dear H:

      “The Bible commands unclean (sick) people to cover their faces. How do you feel about that

      • James Lewis says:

        Dear H:

        “The Bible commands unclean (sick) people to cover their faces. How do you feel about that?”

        That’s the Old Testament and it no longer applies.

        Or do you agree with having slaves, armies killing everyone within a captured city….

        • Professor Hale says:

          Like most militant atheists (is there any other kind?), Hairy doesn’t understand or believe in the Bible. He just repeats what he has seen other activists say on the internet. Using the Bible out of context has been a favored tactic of charlatans for hundreds of years. Discussing theology with them is pointless. They won’t even accept that their argument is weak and should use a different one.

  4. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    The two quoted critics of the study, Viscount Ridley (House of Lords) and Dr Ebright (BioSafety Now and Rutgers) are fervent supporters of the ‘lab leak’ hypothesis. The Viscount even wrote a book about the lab leak! The BioSafety Now organization and Dr Ebright accuse Dr Fauci of financing the SARS-CoV-2 research at the WIV.

    Here’s a review from last year on the origins that mentions raccoon dogs as well.

    Scientists anxiously await the evidence that supports the ‘lab leak hypothesis’.

  5. bob sykes says:

    Wake up, and read Ron Unz. Covid-19 was created in the US Army’s AMRIID laboratory at Ft. Detrick, MD, and it was planted in Wuhan by US soldiers during the 2019 International Military Games.

    Our government is so stupid it never occurred to them that covid would spread over the world.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      That is what the Chinese Communist Party also claim – that the US military created SARS-CoV-2 at Fort Detrick.

  6. CarolAnn says:

    In the meantime, the available evidence* supports, but DOES NOT PROVE, the hypothesis that the Huanan market was the likely site of origin for the pandemic, that is, from an intermediate infected species to humans.

    Nonsense. They can claim that shit till they’re blue in the face but it is still bullshit.

    Logic, common sense and non-political facts say that if there is a meat market and a “institute of virology” side by side and a tray of sushi shows up it probably came from the market.

    Why are the radical leftists in America so determined to convince everyone the filthy commies didn’t create the disease? BTW, even if it came from their market they are still responsible.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Actually, the WIV and Huanan Market are miles and a river apart. The outbreak cases were centered around the Market.

      A dozen or so species of animals were known to be present at the Market in Nov 2019, and three species were confirmed to be susceptible to SARS-CoV-2.

      Chinese bamboo rat (Rhizomys sinensis)
      Raccoon dog (Nyctereutes procyonoides)
      Hog badger (Arctonyx albogularis)

      But other species could have been susceptible.

      This does NOT PROVE that SARS-CoV-2 was transmitted to humans via Market animals. It is still possible that the virus came from a lab! It would have been useful to have tested the caged animals at the Market before getting rid of them.

      At the time, the Chinese government was suggesting that the US had developed the virus in one of our virology labs or that the virus had entered China on frozen food imports!

      Anyway, please share the evidence that SARS-CoV-2 was developed and leaked from the WIV. That Chinese are inscrutable is not evidence. Shouting ‘Fauci!!’ is not evidence. Thanks!

  7. Smitty says:

    Fauci et al need a huge lawsuit. Somebody call Ben Crump.

  8. Jl says:

    Uh, no-people are starting to believe the lab leak hypothesis. Time to unleash the raccoon dog hypothesis!

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Actually, if you keep up, you’ll see that China has started a global disinformation campaign ‘proving’ that it WAS a lab leak, but a lab leak from a US lab!

      Both the US right and China oppose the idea that that SARS-CoV-2 was first transmitted to humans via animal-human contact in the Huanan Market.

      The US right wants to blame Chinese perfidy and the China wants to blame American perfidy. LOL. Does either group have supporting evidence! Nope.

      Mr Jl says that people are starting to ‘believe’ the lab leak. As a Russian scientist once told me, “I don’t care what you believe, only what you prove!”

      The Chinese believe it came from the US.

      Can 1 billion Chinese be wrong? LOL.

  9. Matthew says:

    Oh, denial. Isn’t it amazing how so many simply refuse to admit that they have been so obviously, easily and repeatedly bamboozled with regard to something so vitally important? So thankful that I was able to fess up to initially being taken in and, embarrassing at the time though it was, as the months have passed, I’m more and more comforted that I did admit being fooled. The checking I did while the information was available, prior to it being hidden, masked, “debunked” or scrubbed from the web entirely, I now know saved my life.

  10. drowningpuppies says:

    Rimjob: Actually, if you keep up,…

    “Faking the raccoon dog test results would be preposterously easy to do. For this reason, anyone who tells you Covid came from raccoon dogs is either announcing their own stunning ignorance and naivete, calling you a blithering idiot, or both. In related news, when asked to comment on this story, Fauci confirmed that wet market raccoon dogs ‘taste like Covid-infected chicken.'” – Stilton Jarlsberg

    Bwaha! Lolgfy

    • Professor Hale says:

      Since the “lab” and the market are practically next door to each other, it hardly matters if the chicken or the egg was first infected. It is not contestable that it came from that town. It is known that the lab was working on COVID before the market showed infection. And it is very likely that the USA funded that research. There is guilt on so many hands that blaming an animal seems on it’s face to be an effort in deflection.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Yes, the pandemic started in Wuhan. But the WIV and Huanan Market are miles apart and separated by a river. The early cases were clustered around the market.

        Here’s a fact sheet summarizing what was known about coronavirus research at the WIV. There is no evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 virus was present there.

        No one is blaming an animal, but the evidence is consistent (but does not prove) there was an animal intermediate.

        Some folks distrust the Chinese (and rightly so), others recognize that most significant viral epidemics involve an intermediate host.

  11. CarolAnn says:

    The minute the bastards decided calling a virus from Wuhan China the Wuhan flu was racist I knew it was all bullshit. Especially since no mention was made of the German measles, the Spanish flu, Eboli or any other names the lie was in the bag. Then they switched from the vaccine stopping both the infection and the spread and even went so far as to change the definition of vaccine to do it then it was all over. I should have known from the beginning when creepy joe, Elwood and H were into the propaganda since they are all prolific liars none of whom ever admit an error.

  12. H says:

    People believe what they WANT to believe.
    Many people chose to believe that Ebola was created in a lab as part of a giant conspiracy
    Many people choose to believe the moon landings were faked
    Many people choose to believe that the Clintons are Satan worshiping pedophiles who drink the blood of their victims
    Many people choose to believe that when Trump is arrested JFKjt will post his bail.

    Many people believe that the mandatory seat belt law was passed just to begin increasing the control BIG GOVERNMENT had over sovereign citizens.
    Many people choose to believe that placing your hand in front of your mouth and nose while coughing/sneezing may reduce the rate of transmission of cold viruses
    Many people bieve that tiny puny man could not possibly have any effect on global climate

    • Jl says:

      “Many people believe that tiny puny man could not possibly have any effect on global climate”
      Many, like Carbon boy, believe “carbon offsets” can have an effect on global climate….

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