Warmists Demand DNC Hold Hotcoldwetdry Debate

Why? Because some people died during absolutely normal weather events, as has always happened, but they’ve been brainwashed into believing that this is some Man-caused doom from the release of a small amount of “carbon pollution” by Other People

Leftists to DNC: Hold a D*mn Climate Debate for Those Who Have Died

A group of activists gathered in front of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in Washington, DC, on Wednesday to deliver over 200 thousand signatures demanding a debate on climate change.

“We’re here to talk about what our future is going to look like,” said one protester.

“This issue is not only about equality — it is also about existence,” shouted another activist. “[For] those who died in [Hurricane] Sandy, or Katrina, or Harvey, or Irma, or because of [the] Paradise [fire], or because of California, or the farmers, or all around this country who have died because of climate change — do respect for them and hold a damn climate debate! For those who are no longer here!”

Activists are discouraged by the announcement last week from DNC Chair Tom Perez that the party will not hold a separate primary debate on the topic of climate change.

According to an email distributed by the event’s organizers, “the petition signatures were collected by CREDO Action, Greenpeace USA, Climate Hawks Vote, Oil Change U.S., Daily Kos, Friends of the Earth Action, Public Citizen, Endangered Species Coalition, People Demanding Action, CPD Action, Women’s March National, Bold Nebraska, Bold Alliance, Amazon Watch, 350 Action, Sunrise Movement, Food & Water Action, NextGen America, US Youth Climate Strike, and MoveOn.”

That’s a large group of ultra-far left people, eh? None of the events above were caused by climate change, whether natural or anthropogenic. But, in some cases, such as the incompetence of Louisiana state and local governments for Katrina and powerline problems thanks to the power company in California, issues were caused by mankind. Just not due to “carbon pollution.”

But, yes, I support the DNC holding a ‘climate change’ debate, because it will show The People just how extreme Democrats are, and what their policies will do to the cost of living (skyrocket) and their freedom and choice (take it away.) So bring on the debate!

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64 Responses to “Warmists Demand DNC Hold Hotcoldwetdry Debate”

  1. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Man-made CO2 (from burning fossil fuels) has increased the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere from 280 ppm to over 400 ppm (and still rising), causing the warming. The natural equilibrium (balance) between CO2 release and sequestration (by plants and ocean) is disrupted, causing the increased CO2. If humans had killed every green plant on Earth that action would also cause the imbalance.

    Calcium is a trace element in the blood, but if it doubles, you can die.

    • Dana says:

      Mr Dowd, you’ve just made the same points you and your other personalities have been making for years now, but you never addressed the topic of our esteemed host’s post: whether the Democrats ought to have a full debate on it.

      Personally, I’d be amused if the Dumbass Double Dozen — is it still 24, or has the number of candidates changed yet again? — all get up and try to outdo each other in stating their devotion to arresting climate change, and trying to find just a tiny wedge to differentiate themselves from the other 23. In the end, they are all saying the same thing, with minor differences in which I’s are crossed and which T’s are dotted.¹

      Tom Perez knows that, and he also knows how the voters bitch slapped Jay Inslee and his two referenda, how such plans were met by the voters in Australia and protesters in France — two countries which are politically more liberal than the United States — and doesn’t want that stuff to drag down all of the Democratic candidates.

      And, of course, the last thing he wants is someone raising the uncomfortable point that nary a one of the DDDs have included a carbon emissions tax, because they are all scared fecesless over presenting that to the voters, even though every last one of them would make such a move if elected.

      The public very much support action against global warming climate change . . . as long as they don’t have to pay for it and it doesn’t force them to make any changes in their lives. Well, the truth is that to put any of the left’s climate change proposals into effect will mean higher costs and fewer choices for consumers, reductions in their standards of living and restrictions on how they may live their lives . . . and that’s the last thing that Chairman Perez wants to put in front of the voters.

      ¹ – Yes, that was deliberate.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        I was responding to the unrelated figure and tweet regarding CO2 sources that TEACH appended to his post. The response to disinformation is always to supply the truth.

        But why should the Democrats take advice from you, TEACH, the GOP, tRump or even party activists?? The party should decide their own political strategy.

        • dachs_dude says:

          You’re right! Let the Dumbocrats implode all by themselves.

        • formwiz says:

          What he doesn’t want to relate to is the fact the Demos don’t want to get stuck in a “climate debate” that will brand the entire party as a pack of environuts.

    • alanstorm says:

      “Calcium is a trace element in the blood, but if it doubles, you can die.”

      Comparing apples and alternators, as ignorant folk tend to do. I would say “apples and oranges”, but they’re at least both fruit. This is not even that close. Read and comprehend, if you can.

      https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/06/another-pane-of-glass.php

      • Dana says:

        Well, a lot of the Democrats are fruits, so it would have fit.

      • formwiz says:

        Most calcium is carried in the bones, so hypercalcemia is usually an indicator of other conditions like hyperparathyroidism.

        Anything can kill you if you have to much of it.

        Lefty lies, f’rinstance.

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          But the denier argument is that CO2 is a trace gas and even a doubling of it won’t hurt anything. They argue there is just too little CO2, and in additions it’s natural and necessary. Well, calcium and potassium are trace nutrients – natural and necessary, but too much can be damaging.

          Potassium is normally about 160 ppm in serum, but doubling it can be quite harmful to the human internal ecosystem.

          And the correct word is “too”.

    • Jl says:

      And concentrations of CO2 have been up to ten times higher or more in the past. It makes no difference to nature where the CO2 came from. Yet here we are…

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        You are right that nature cares naught about the source of the additional CO2, but nature dispassionately responds to it in predictable ways.

        “And yet here we are…” The Earth is warming rapidly from the CO2 humans are adding to the atmosphere.

    • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

      Scientists have calculated that termites alone produce ten times as much carbon dioxide as all the fossil fuels burned in the whole world in a year.
      And there is nothing we can do about it. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

      • Professor Hale says:

        We can kill the termites. If they are killing the planet, we should at least try. It’s them or us. I vote for us.

        • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

          We’re outnumbered… for every person on the planet, there are 1,000 pounds of termites. They were here long before humans and will be here long after our species is gone. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

    • david7134 says:

      Jeff,
      I decided to research the topic, found that there is zero evidence to link CO2 in the atmosphere to anything, certainly not weather and climate events. It seems that if you look at the data, warming occurs before CO2 is elevated and that warming is not consistently associated with CO2. Then there is the fact that many of the numbers you quote come from ice cores and then you compare to atmosphere, wrong, ice core does not compute to CO2.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        The scientific community disagrees with the results of your “research”.

        Are you saying the Earth is warming rapidly, for reasons that no one can identify, and that that magical warming is causing the release of CO2 from fossil fuels deep in the Earth? Do you think the scientists are lying about the isotope distribution of atmospheric carbon? Or just mistaken?

        One point: With no CO2 in the atmosphere the entire Earth would be covered in ice.

        • formwiz says:

          He’s saying your scientific community doesn’t know what it’s talking about and is lying through its teeth.

          With no CO2 in the atmosphere the entire Earth would be covered in ice.

          Cite that. I can’t wait to tear it apart.

        • david7134 says:

          Jeff,
          You lie about everything, so your comments on your favorite subject are lies as well. None of what you have said has any measure of truth.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            I’ve asked several times that my “lies” be identified and we can discuss.

            Why do you never wish to discuss issues?

          • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

            To begin with:
            Claiming to have joined the Army during the Vietnam War…

            Discuss. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

    • formwiz says:

      You wouldn’t want to cite any of that drivel, would you?

      Nah, didn’t think so.

      PS Sequestration? No, it’s photosynthesis.

      See, they have to rewrite science, all of it, to get their little lies to work.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Photosynthesis uses the sun’s energy to convert gaseous CO2 into carbohydrates, thus sequestering the CO2 as celluloses and starches.

        Can you be more specific about my “drivel”, regarding what documentation you require?

        • formwiz says:

          Well, for openers, I never heard anyone use the word sequester in relation to CO2 in photosynthesis, because CO2 is not sequestered in photosynthesis, it’s converted.

          Which drivel would I like cited (you really shouldn’t be afraid to cite all of it off the top if it’s real)?

          Man-made CO2 (from burning fossil fuels) has increased the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere from 280 ppm to over 400 ppm (and still rising)

          The natural equilibrium (balance) between CO2 release and sequestration (by plants and ocean) is disrupted, causing the increased CO2.

          I think that will do for now.

          sequestration /sarc

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Once again you demand I educate you on knowledge you can find for yourself. Here ya go… but you won’t believe it anyway.

            Fine, converted to carbohydrates… and the carbohydrates are sequestered in the plants.

            Of course atmospheric CO2 and other greenhouse gases affect the mean global surface temperature.

            Black body temperature: The temperature that the surface of a body (such as a planet, like the Earth) would be if it were not warmed by its own atmosphere. It can be calculated using the Stefan–Boltzmann equation. The black body temperature of the Earth is -23°C, but the actual surface temperature is about 15°C.

            This explains how we know that the increased CO2 comes from fossil fuels: http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/03/14/3452867.htm

          • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

            … but the actual surface temperature is about 15°C.

            About what is has been for hundreds of years, you silly silly little girl. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Lil Fluffy,

            What point are you trying to make, if any?

            Are you taking grammar lessons from formwiz?

  2. Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

    ~97% of all GHG occur naturally and there is nothing we can do about it. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

  3. formwiz says:

    Denying facts is hardly an argument.

    This is your new rimshot? The bear suit had better.

    You better find another because that one is so easily turned against you.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      You tiptoed up to the line, but didn’t cross it. Good boy.

      • formwiz says:

        No, I didn’t.

        Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn, but it is indicative of what liljeffy says is true that it’s the way you saw it.

        Apparently, show biz is another field in which your ignorance shines.

  4. formwiz says:

    What point are you trying to make, if any?

    Are you taking grammar lessons from formwiz?

    The bunny suit never saw the day his grammar and syntax could compare to mine.

    If anything, some of the screeds he copies are so hysterically risible in any way imaginable conceivable that they’re worthy of contempt on just about every level.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Ah, The Kleagle of Kleveland is back with his schtick.

      Is this an example of your fine prose? “Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn, but it is indicative of what (Lil Fluffy) says is true that it’s the way you saw it.”

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Are you marshaling your forces for “tearing apart” the greenhouse gas theory?

      • formwiz says:

        Back to name-calling whebn there’s no response.

        OK, I used the word rimshot, meaning that badum-CHING thing they do on a drum after a joke.

        Idiot Boy thought I was scared of him You tiptoed up to the line, but didn’t cross it. Good boy.

        He of the dirty mind and doubtless greater culpability in liljeffy’s allegations clearly thought (I use the word loosely) I meant rimjob – the act of orally stimulating the external anal sphincter to cause sexual arousal.

        He probably fantasizes about being rimmed by a guy in a sheet.

        Wotta sicko.

        PS One of the most memorable lines in movies. I only borrow from the best. And it states the case.

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          I know what a rimshot is, and thanks for your description of a rimjob. You seem to know a lot about it, and I appreciate advice from an expert.

          But you don’t get it, do you? I only respond in kind. You call me names, and I respond. Your silly bunny suit or bear suit gets you identified every time.

          Lil Fluffy can fill you in on why he stopped slandering me. He was hard to find. You’re easy to find, since you’ve self identified.

          Let me know when you tear apart greenhouse gas theory.

          • formwiz says:

            Suuuure, you did. That’s why you made your little threat.

            But you don’t get it, do you? I only respond in kind. You call me names, and I respond.

            no, you do it whenever you’re cornered or when you think you can throw somebody off balance. Your little Alan Colmes is so feeble.

            Lil Fluffy can fill you in on why he stopped slandering me. He was hard to find. You’re easy to find, since you’ve self identified.

            No, he still slams you and you’re just as easy to find, Jeffery L Keene. Keep it in mind the next time you want to slander somebody and, as I said, all your greenhouse gases come out your ass.

            The rest have all been exposed.

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          PS: I recognize Rhett’s line from Gone With the Wind, but am baffled by “but it is indicative of what (commenter) says is true that it’s the way you saw it.”

          A local FOX radio host (he used to have jimhoft and Dana Loesch on his show) used to talk about anal-oral sex a lot in emails. Must be a thing with Cons. Anyway he was fired from both his radio and TV gig for threatening to anally rape one of the Parkland boys on tweeter.

          • formwiz says:

            Your advocacy of homosexuality and deviant sex is pretty clear.

            As for the rest, you seem to pick up on any reference. Must be Hell being unable to have a normal relationship.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            And your advocacy of white supremacy identifies you as Kleagle.

  5. Professor Hale says:

    DEATH TO TERMITES!!

  6. Edward Sibley Dutcher says:

    I’ve asked several times that my “lies” be identified and we can discuss.

    Why do you never wish to discuss issues?

    And we’ve specified. We’ve also asked for citation.

    This is the response.

    It’s known as having one’s bluff called.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Who are you??

      • formwiz says:

        The guy who knows the bunny suit is just a low level troll named Jeffery L Keene.

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          Got it, Edward Sibley Dutcher.

          • formwiz says:

            Keep it up.

            I doubt Teach will tolerate this forever. As the bear suit went, so will go the bunny suit.

            You want to scare people away under threat of doxxing and slander because you’re too lame to win a debate. You lie about your name-calling. you lie about everything, for that matter.

            You hate me because I kick your ass continually and don’t let you intimidate me or anyone else here.

            You’re a flop as a troll and have to get even.

            Pathetic.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Kleagle typed: “I doubt Teach will tolerate this forever.”

            Why don’t you stop?

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            We get it. Right-wingers need a cloistered safe space where they can bellow their lies and cruelty in a circle jerk without criticism.

            “Guys” like you and Lil get frustrated and become increasingly bellicose. We get it. You’re afraid, desperate and frantic.

            Bill Bear became frustrated with your ignorance and belligerence and got himself banned.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      So formwiz is Edward Sibley Dutcher?

  7. formwiz says:

    And your advocacy of white supremacy identifies you as Kleagle.

    When have I advocated white supremacy? And how does that make me a member of the Klan, even if true?

    A Kleagle is an officer of the Ku Klux Klan whose main role is to recruit new members[1][2] and must maintain the 3 guiding principles; recruit, maintain control and safeguard.

    King Kleagles are appointed as leaders of a region and have delegation to manage members and official affairs of that regions members

    First, I would have to be a member of the Klan. You have no proof.

    Second, I would have had to attempt to recruit new Klansmen or Klanswomen. You have no proof.

    Third, to be a King Kleagle, I would have had to manage a Klan region. You have no proof.

    Fourth, all that no proof means you can be sued, sweetie, as you have used a public carrier to spread your lies.

    • Professor Hale says:

      Thank you for your contribution to archaic and mythical organizations trivia week. Next up: Who is higher ranking at Hogwart’s, Professor Snape or Professor Minerva?

  8. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    You’ve just said you were the anonymous formwiz, sweetie. Fair enough.

    I’m no lawyer, but is it possible to slander a fake name?

    You and Lil have accused me of being a pedophile.

    Is it your contention that lies on the internet are defamation?

    I’ve explained that if you stop name-calling I will. It seems to bother you more than me, but you just can’t stop.

    • formwiz says:

      I’ve never accused you of anything, but I do think liljeffy is no liar, unlike you.

      If you’re no lawyer, then you better back off until you can get one. Behind every Nom de Net is an IP address and behind the IP address is a real person. Now you have slandered me as an officer in the Klan.

      You think it would be so hard to track you down by your IP address and hang you by it?

      And, if I leave you alone, you’ll just get worse, typical bully. You have to call everybody names because we all kick your ass. Teach also has your email address and that can be tracked down.

      You’re not as safe as you think.

  9. formwiz says:

    Kleagle typed: “I doubt Teach will tolerate this forever.”

    Why don’t you stop?

    He thinks he’s cute. Keep it up. Jerks always get theirs and you’re the biggest jerk of all.

    We get it. Right-wingers need a cloistered safe space where they can bellow their lies and cruelty in a circle jerk without criticism.

    “Guys” like you and Lil get frustrated and become increasingly bellicose. We get it. You’re afraid, desperate and frantic.

    Bill Bear became frustrated with your ignorance and belligerence and got himself banned.

    Now is that projection or what? And what got the bear suit banned was he started calling Teach names. So you’re lying, as usual.

    You see all his inadequacies on display plus his total failure as a debater.

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