Bummer: It’s Too Late For The Green New Deal, So, Have To Go Radical

This would be the Green New Deal that Democrats do not want to actually vote on, and was already pretty darned radical to start with

It’s Too Late for a Green New Deal; Can Other Radical Plans Work?

We all owe a huge debt of gratitude to those who have articulated the Green New Deal (GND), especially Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Sunrise Movement. We needed something that focused attention on how serious climate change has become and the need for government action. The GND has shattered the neoliberal insistence upon incremental, market-oriented climate mitigation.

But, considering the emerging climate science and our diminished carbon budget after at least three decades of denial, and with carbon concentration in the atmosphere higher than it has been in 3 million years, it is too late to speed up the slow transition from fossil fuels to renewables with government facilitated renewable building; too late to build renewables under a Keynesian plan that employs all the workers in transition; too late for a transition that makes money and lets us keep living our present lifestyles.

The author, Bill Henderson at the uber far left Truthout, builds up to the fin

…Fossil fuels must now be kept in the ground. Governments must regulate a scheduled, rapid, managed decline of all fossil fuel production based upon the best science and risk-management expertise.

End use of fossil fuels

Of course, like rejecting “Big Government” as a mitigation option, a government-regulated, managed decline affecting long-term international investment is anathema to the business elites who control our governments and many other institutions in our society. They will have to accept the duty of government to regulate in this emergency and join with all other stakeholders in the climate mobilization.

Massive government control of economies.

Importantly, instead of a plan offered to consumers to buy their support, climate mitigation should be a responsibility of citizens who recognize their duty to limit damage to future generations. We don’t need urgent action on climate to make life more comfortable and secure for the world’s richest people.

Elites jamming through control of our lives in a fashion, dare I say, reminiscent of the Third Reich and Communist China.

Funny how this always boils down to the same Fascist, Authoritarian type governmental systems.

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12 Responses to “Bummer: It’s Too Late For The Green New Deal, So, Have To Go Radical”

  1. Jl says:

    “Carbon concentration in the atmosphere higher than in the last 3 million yrs..”. So? Maybe if he had proof that is was detrimental he would have said so..

  2. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    So you want proof that a 2-3C increase in the mean surface temp will be harmful?

    Sorry, you’d have to be able to hear the cries of your children and grandchildren for proof.

    In the past 50 yrs the temp has increased 0.9C. There is no reason to expect it to slow.

    • Jl says:

      So in other words, as we already knew, there’s no proof that amount of temp rise would be harmful. But thanks for the bit of drama (cries of your children) in lieu of evidence.

    • formwiz says:

      Funny how Tunguska didn’t raise temps like that and bunny suit’s fictitious CO2 wouldn’t do it.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        The Lil Dutch Boy trying to look smart… how cute is he?

        Why would you expect the Tunguska explosion to raise the Earth’s temp?

        Fictitious CO2?? LOL. You’re mentally ill. “Fictitious” CO2 has raised the temp almost 1C already. With more to come! Your grandchildren will wonder why grandpa Dutchboy was such a selfish, cruel and lazy dumbass.

        • formwiz says:


          .04% of the atmosphere, absorbed into plant life, is doing zip.

          So the stupid little Negro is just doing what the Lefties always do when they can’t win an argument.

          Scare everybody with lies.

  3. JorgXMcKie says:

    In the late Cretaceous CO2 levels were around 1000 PPM (compared to 400 PPM today). Oddly enough there was no runaway global warming that cooked everything.
    Anyway, I’ll believe the Warmists are serious when I see all of them severely restrict their own carbon usage.
    How about we start by enforcing a law that no government employees or elected officials or such can use air conditioning at any time, they must travel in groups of at least 6 in vehicles with the overall lowest CO2 footprint (including the manufacturing [and mining, etc] and distant energy production) available on the market for general purchase, cannot use computers or other electronic equipment, may not heat their home to more than 60 degrees F, cannot have living space greater than 400 sq ft per person, and things like that? Make them live the lifestyle they would push on others.
    Then get all their supporters to do likewise. Try that on all of them for, say, 5 years, and if it works the rest of us will consider joining them.

    BTW, I work with very complicated statistical models, and if mine sucked at prediction the way the UN models do they’d be junked and I’d start over.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      The Cretaceous period ended with one of the greatest mass extinctions in the history of Earth, exterminating the dinosaurs, marine and flying reptiles, and many marine invertebrates. The poles were ice free.

      How many major coastal cities had humanity erected 100 million years ago? How were the Gulf Stream and other major ocean circulations? (Hint: the current continents hadn’t fully separated).

      That was then, this is now.

      • formwiz says:

        There’s also fact versus fiction.

        K-2 was the result of an asteroid. Like some people’s heads.

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