Here We Go Again: Winston-Salem Wants To Change Name Of Its Big Yearly Fair

The city of Winston-Salem, NC, has apparently become all sorts of Woke, despite almost no one having an issue with a certain name

After 130-plus years, NC fair will change a name some call a reminder of slavery

After more than 130 years, a popular fair in North Carolina will change its name to avoid controversy or links to negative historical connection.

City officials in Winston-Salem tweeted Wednesday that the Dixie Classic Fair will be rebranded with a new name.

“We have started a process to change the name of the Dixie Classic Fair,” Winston-Salem officials said on Twitter.

The decision to change the name of the fair came after members of the community took issue with the word Dixie, pointing to its connections to slavery and the Confederacy, WXII reported.

“We have come together as a community … and we are standing together this time to say that that is a name we are asking you as a council to consider renaming our fair to be more encompassing in embracing us as a community,” the Rev. Sir Walter Mack Jr., the pastor at Union Baptist Church, said at a Winston-Salem City Council meeting, according to the TV station.

Those sentiments made an impact because Assistant City Manager Ben Rowe told members of the Fair Planning Committee that the City Council decided the time has come to change the name, the Winston-Salem Journal reported.

They’re running a survey, soliciting new names. What if people overwhelmingly choose to keep the name Dixie?

“We are putting a lot of energy into finding a new name rather than finding out if a majority wants a new name,” committee member Lisa Eldridge said of the process that could be determined by a June 17 City Council meeting, according to the Winston-Salem Journal.

Well, obviously Ms. Eldridge is a white supremacist, if we’re going to go by Woke beliefs. But, say, wouldn’t that make the entire city council white supremacists and racists and supporters of slavery? Because the name “Winston” comes from Joseph Winston, an American Revolution hero. Who, oh yes, own around 15 slaves.

So when are we doing away with the Winston part? If we want to play this Woke rename everything game.

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29 Responses to “Here We Go Again: Winston-Salem Wants To Change Name Of Its Big Yearly Fair”

  1. Kye says:

    Teach, please don’t give these fascists any more ideas. They’re already erasing America one statue/song/fair/name at a time. It has no more to do with race than the green new deal has to do with climate. They’re both excuses to erase America, Western Culture and white people.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Kye,

      That’s interesting. I heard a discussion on the radio this morning – a London professor was making a similar argument about the nascent war that right and left extremists are hoping to trigger between Muslims and Christians – East vs West! White supremacists and Islamist radicals are baiting each other (and all their associated “tribes”) to hate the other side. Blogs like this one promote that.

      Mr. tRump is working to erase America, one standard at a time.

      But it is about race. Our white majority, especially our johnny rebs down Dixie way, want to preserve their white privilege. That’s why so many peckerwoods fly the stars and bars. What “way of life” do they want to preserve – white superiority.

      • formwiz says:

        a London professor was making a similar argument about the nascent war that right and left extremists are hoping to trigger between Muslims and Christians

        The Moslems aren’t mad at Jews or Buddhists or Hindus? Snooze to me.

        And the war is over. We won.

        In June 2019 the U.S. Navy will restore the tradition of the oldest warship in service being the only one to fly the Revolutionary War era First Navy Jack (with 13 alternating horizontal red and white stripes with a rattlesnake superimposed as well as the words “Don’t Tread On Me”) instead of the usual Union Jack (blue with fifty white stars). Since September 11, 2002, all U.S. Navy ships have been flying the First Navy Jack and that was to continue for the duration of the War On Terrorism.

        This is what you get listening to London professors.

        Our white majority, especially our johnny rebs down Dixie way, want to preserve their white privilege.

        I thought we were a minority. You keep saying so. OK, you were lying. The only question is then or now.

        Always.

        White supremacists and Islamist radicals are baiting each other (and all their associated “tribes”) to hate the other side. Blogs like this one promote that.

        That’s why so many peckerwoods fly the stars and bars

        Really?

        Up here in OH, a half hour’s drive from Cleveland, I see Confederate flags all over the place.

        And I thought the Moslems were blameless, it was white America that was at fault.

        If someone is complaining about the promotion of hate, he does not call white people peckerwoods.

        All you have is hate.

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          Wiz/Kye typed: And the war is over. We won.

          Tell that to the families in Sri Lanka.

          Wiz/Kye typed: I thought we (whites) were a minority. You keep saying so.

          Nope. You think wrong. Whites are not a minority in the US. You need new glasses?

          Wiz/Kye typed: Up here in OH, a half hour’s drive from Cleveland, I see Confederate flags all over the place.

          If you fly a confederate flag, you’re a peckerwood. That’s simple enough.

          All you have is hate. And white privilege.

          • formwiz says:

            First, if you can’t tell the difference between us, you’re even less perceptive than I imagined. If this is another of your clumsy attempts at dehumanizing us, it’s just dehumanizing you.

            Tell that to the families in Sri Lanka.

            Which has what to do with anything?

            Nope. You think wrong. Whites are not a minority in the US. You need new glasses?

            You keep telling us we’re being drowned in the Brown Wave. When faced with his actual statements, Jeffery tries to lie his way out. The price one pays for shooting off his mouth too often.

            If you fly a confederate flag, you’re a peckerwood.

            And this is the clown that talks about spreading hate and wants people banned because of name calling.

            All you have is hate. And white privilege.

            The hate is yours, but I do like the fact my “white privilege” makes you crazy, although it’s a pretty easy thing.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Ohio Dutcher typed: You keep telling us we’re being drowned in the Brown Wave.

            So you admit you’re lying by moving the goalpost on what you claim I said.

            We’re pleased that you admit your white privilege. Just think how life would be if you had to actually earn your way.

            Dutcher typed: this is the clown that talks about spreading hate and wants people banned because of name calling.

            This from the clown who calls others commies. Fascist.

  2. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Wasn’t “Dixie” the de facto National Anthem for the Confederacy, the collection of states that wanted to destroy America just so they wouldn’t have to work their own fields?

    Give Me Dixie or Give Me Death!!

    Draw the line. Don’t give in.

    • formwiz says:

      No, it was a song written by Daniel Decatur Emmett, a staunch Union man, for Bryant’s Minstrels playing New York. It was a fave of Abraham Lincoln and the song he requested at the last band concert he attended (“I have always thought `Dixie’ one of the best tunes I have ever heard. Our adversaries over the way attempted to appropriate it, but I insisted yesterday that we fairly captured it.”).

      It was the smash hit of 1859 and loved all over the country, there were even Union lyrics written for it during the Civil War

      the collection of states that wanted to destroy America just so they wouldn’t have to work their own fields?

      No, states that demanded fair taxation over the protective tariff (5 gets you 10 he has no clue) that put the burden of Federal revenue on the Southern states and exercised their right of secession rather than knuckle under to a statist President.

      And the term Dixie seems to have originated originated in French Louisiana. In the years before the Civil War, the state’s Citizens’ Bank of New Orleans issued ten-dollar notes with “dix”—the French word for “ten”—written on one side. The widely circulated bills became known as “Dixies,” and some argue the term was later appropriated as a geographical nickname, first for New Orleans and Louisiana and then for the entire South.

      Another explanation of Dixie’s origins involves a Manhattan plantation owner named “Dix” (or perhaps “Dixy”) who had a reputation for being especially kind to his slaves. As the story goes, when the slaves were later sold and sent to the South, they spoke fondly of their former home in “Dixie’s Land”.

      Some have suggested it comes from the Mason-Dixon Line, but that would include PA and MD.

      So, once again, you lie.

      • Bob M says:

        Damn….

        Don’t you just hate it when those disgusting facts rear their ugly heads and ruin a great line of bullsh^t?

      • david7134 says:

        Just read in one of the Kennedy books that the most popular song among CSA troops and thus the most likely to be the national anthem was Bounty Blue Flag. This is a song that the Yankees don’t want you to hear as it is all about freedom.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Wiz/Kye,

        So, “Dixie” wasn’t the de facto anthem for the Confederacy? Regardless of its origin in minstrel shows.

        Wiz/Kye typed: Some have suggested it (Dixie) comes from the Mason-Dixon Line, but that would include PA and MD. So, once again, you lie.

        Do you think PA is south of the Mason-Dixon line? What lie?

        • formwiz says:

          Did the Confederacy have an anthem? We didn’t until 1931, so I’m guessing the Rebs didn’t have one, either. So you lied.

          And, if you don’t know that the Mason-Dixon Line was and where it was drawn, you’re too stupid to enter this discussion.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Keep sucking azz, old man. Please look up the meaning of ‘de facto’.

            Ma·son–Dix·on line
            [ˌmāsənˈdiksən ˌlīn]

            NOUN
            (in the US) the boundary between Maryland and Pennsylvania, taken as the northern limit of the slave-owning states before the abolition of slavery.

  3. Professor Hale says:

    Just rename all the sports teams, streets, public schools, universities, airports, and statues “Martin Luther King Jr” and be done with it. Things will get a little confusing at first, but we will adapt.

  4. Kye says:

    It’s The Bonnie Blue Flag, david7134 and I love the tune. (but of course I would since I’m a raving white supremacist according to Elwood)

    “The Bonnie Blue Flag”, also known as “We Are a Band of Brothers”, is an 1861 marching song associated with the Confederate States of America. The words were written by the entertainer Harry McCarthy, with the melody taken from the song “The Irish Jaunting Car”. The song’s title refers to the unofficial first flag of the Confederacy, the Bonnie Blue Flag. The left flag on the sheet-music to the reader’s right is the Bonnie Blue Flag.

    The song was premiered by lyricist Harry McCarthy during a concert in Jackson, Mississippi, in the spring of 1861 and performed again in September of that same year at the New Orleans Academy of Music for the First Texas Volunteer Infantry regiment mustering in celebration.[citation needed]

    The New Orleans music publishing house of A.E. Blackmar issued six editions of “The Bonnie Blue Flag” between 1861 and 1864 along with three additional arrangements.

    The “band of brothers” mentioned in the first line of the song recalls the well known St. Crispin’s Day Speech in William Shakespeare’s play Henry V (Act IV, scene ii).

    1.
    We are a band of brothers and native to the soil
    Fighting for the property we gained by honest toil[b]
    And when our rights were threatened, the cry rose near and far
    Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star!

    Chorus:
    Hurrah! Hurrah!
    For Southern rights, hurrah!
    Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

    2.
    As long as the Union was faithful to her trust
    Like friends and like brethren, kind were we, and just
    But now, when Northern treachery attempts our rights to mar
    We hoist on high the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

    Chorus

    3.
    First gallant South Carolina nobly made the stand
    Then came Alabama and took her by the hand
    Next, quickly Mississippi, Georgia, and Florida
    All raised on high the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

    Chorus

    4.
    Ye men of valor gather round the banner of the right
    Texas and fair Louisiana join us in the fight
    Davis, our loved President, and Stephens statesmen rare
    Now rally round the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

    Chorus

    5.
    Now here’s to brave Virginia, the Old Dominion State,
    With the young Confederacy at last has sealed her fate,
    And spurred by her example, now other states prepare
    To hoist high the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

    (Alternately:
    Now here’s to brave Virginia, the Old Dominion State,
    Who with the young Confederacy at length has linked her fate.
    Impelled by her example, let other states prepare
    To hoist high the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.)

    Chorus[5]

    6.
    Then cheer, boys, cheer, raise a joyous shout
    For Arkansas and North Carolina now have both gone out,
    And let another rousing cheer for Tennessee be given,
    The single star of the Bonnie Blue Flag has grown to be eleven.

    Chorus

    7.
    Then here’s to our Confederacy, strong we are and brave,
    Like patriots of old we’ll fight, our heritage to save;
    And rather than submit to shame, to die we would prefer,
    So cheer for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

    Chorus

    • Professor Hale says:

      That can’t be right. You obviously left out the stanzas where they extol the virtues of slavery and their sweet, but unwilling dark-skinned girl friends. That is what they were all fighting for, wasn’t it? I saw it in “Roots”.

      • david7134 says:

        People are actually quoting some movies as fact. The recent ones are pure fiction. The one about the 13th amendment portrayed Lincoln as supporting it. He only half heartedly did so. The amendment that he really pushed was the original 13th that would have reserved slavery to this day.

    • david7134 says:

      Thanks for the correction, spelling is not one of my strong points.

    • david7134 says:

      According to the Kennedys, the author of the song was inspired by the secession convention in Mississippi. As you can see there was a considerable concern for lost freedom and rights.

      What is interesting is that racism and bigotry were very strong in the North and less so in the South. Free blacks in the South had far fewer restrictions, in the North they were treated very bad. A good example can be found online by googling Melrose Plantation.

  5. formwiz says:

    They may have lost the war, but the Johnny Rebs had all the good songs.

    • david7134 says:

      Who said the war is over. Took hundreds of years but the Irish ultimately won their freedom.

  6. Kye says:

    Well, Professor, If it was in Roots” it has to be true! After all, would a black leftist American lie about the Civil War, his own ancestry, the rotten privileged Rebs and the noble slave? Of course not. Unheard of!

    Elwood thinks (there’s two words I never dreamed I’d combine) that the brave and patriotic Rebels were traitors to America. He fails to realize in 1860 Americans still believed in State Sovereignty and the folks were fighting in the belief they were following the footsteps of our Founders. They weren’t traitors, they were “Rebels”. Big difference. That’s why Neither Lincoln not Johnson had the desire to execute any of them for treason. Even the Lincoln Conspiracy were executed for the treason of murdering the President, not fighting the war.

    • formwiz says:

      Have to step in here.

      Many did regard the Rebs as traitors*, although these were mostly Radical Republicans, one of whom proposed legislation that all Confederate officers above the rank of colonel and all Confederate civil officials be executed. Union officers from Grant on down, especially the West Pointers, said this would happen over their collective dead bodies.

      So the idea of treason died not because they weren’t traitors (technically, they were), but the bond of West Point was stronger. The Rebs had fought a clean and honorable war. Many Confederates, rank and file as well as generals, were respected.

      Also, mass liquidation wasn’t the American way. Jeff Davis spent 2 years in prison, but was released.

      You might say it was West Point that saved America.

      the brave and patriotic Rebels were traitors to America

      If you read Article III Section 3 of the Constitution, firing on US installations and troops constitutes treason. The issue is that they did not want to destroy the US, they wanted their right to secede in light of the fact the Feds would not budge on the issue of the protective tariff – good articles here, here, and here for those who never had it in school.

      Neither Lincoln not Johnson had the desire to execute any of them for treason

      As of 1863, Lincoln had a little list to that effect, but eventually tossed it.

      Consider the second verse of Rally Round The Flag

      The union forever, hurrah boys, hurrah
      Down with the traitor, up with the star
      While we rally ’round the flag, boys
      Rally once again
      Shouting the battle cry of freedom

      • david7134 says:

        I have read a number of sources that have said a trial for treason would subsequently mean out Lincoln and his government on trial, I know that Lincoln was dead. It was considered legal for a state to sever ties with the Union. In fact Texas incorporated this in their joining as a state. If you read Genesis of the Civil War, you will find that the Sumter incident was very complicated and was actually precipitated by Lincoln sending an armed fleet to attack Charleston. From my view, Lincoln was a major war criminal.

        • formwiz says:

          I’ve seen that. Lincoln needed an incident and most Union garrisons just handed over the keys.

          Saw some articles from (are you ready?) the Gray Lady a week before Sumter essentially telling the South, “Don’t let the door hit ya…”, and Sumter changed all that like Pearl Harbor changed the “I didn’t raise my boy to be a soldier, sailor, or Marine” attitude in 1941.

          PS Isn’t it nice to have a civilized discussion on an interesting topic?

  7. Kye says:

    formwiz, I realize many in the North believed the Rebels to be traitors. Had I been alive then I probably would have too. Just as most British considered our Patriots Traitors and had a bounty on the Founding Fathers. But that is precisely what I mean by they weren’t. Historically and factually it is the winners who decide history and We (collectively) have decided the South were Rebels, American Rebels, not traitors. I fully realize the leftists and modern anti-white bigots are slowly erasing this fact but nonetheless in my opinion it is true.

    Firstly, before the Civil War the states voluntarily joined the Union. How many states do you thing would have done that if the law was that they can never leave regardless how badly the Feds treated them? Zero I would suppose. They quite understandably believed the union was consensual and they could leave which is why they all were so gung-ho for their state. That is where their Patriotic loyalty was.

    I also think the Founding Fathers WERE traitors. They had a sovereign ant that is where their loyalty should have been. They didn’t have states to vie for their love and loyalty only on country, one sovereign, one God, Nelsons famous 111 sign.

    Understand these are only my opinions. I can’t prove or disprove what people long dead believed. Even quoting them misses because we can’t “feel” the way they said it. I do know any American worth his salt will love the sinner and hate the sin. I respect the way the South stood up and bled for what they in their time believed were their God Given Rights.

    Of course I also respect the filthy commie bastards who fought me in Vietnam. I faced them and they me and as they were trying to kill me so was I them. And kill many I did. But they were braver and better than Americans who promote communism here in the comfort of their 3 homes and limos etc. while they run for office. They also had the courage to face me and die for their beliefs rather than hide behind anonymity and call me names on the internet.

    So take it for what it is worth. It’s just my opinion. Unlike leftists we don’t doxx or deplatform people with whom we disagree. Thank God.

    • formwiz says:

      That’s fine and I can see your viewpoint.

      I can take a disagreement among friends and stay friends.

  8. Professor Hale says:

    I find it as one of the supreme ironies of history that the North enslaved their free populations to fight against Southern slavery while the South freed their slaves to fight the North and supposedly preserve slavery. Further exacerbated by when the North captured freed slaves, they would re-enslave them to support the Northern war effort. It’s almost as if the war was really about much larger issues than just slavery.

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