The NY Times’ Michelle Goldberg should have done a little research, but, it’s fashionable among liberals to believe that those involved in the BDS movement are just protesters, rather than virulent Jew haters who want to see Israel wiped off the map
Anti-Zionists Deserve Free Speech
The Palestinian activist Omar Barghouti, one of the founders of the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement, was supposed to be on a speaking tour of the United States this week, with stops at N.Y.U.’s Washington campus and at Harvard. He was going to attend his daughter’s wedding in Texas. I had plans to interview him for “The Argument,†the debate podcast that I co-host, about B.D.S., the controversial campaign to make Israel pay an economic and cultural price for its treatment of the Palestinians.
Yet when Barghouti, a permanent resident of Israel, showed up for his flight from Israel’s Ben Gurion International Airport last week, he was informed that the United States was denying him entry. When I spoke to him on Sunday, he still didn’t know exactly why the country where he went to college and lived for many years wasn’t letting him in, but he assumed it was because of his political views. If that’s the case, Barghouti said, it was the first time someone has been barred from America for B.D.S. advocacy. He has proceeded with his public events, but he’s been appearing at them via Skype.
In recent years, the American right has presented itself as a champion of free expression. Conservatives are constantly bemoaning a censorious campus climate that stigmatizes their ideas; last month, Donald Trump signed an executive order on campus free speech, decrying those who would keep Americans from “challenging rigid far-left ideology.†The president said, “People who are confident in their beliefs do not censor others.â€
First, people who supported Obama in denying a German family which wanted to homeschool their kids the right to stay in the U.S., also because they were Christians, shouldn’t be casting stones. Second, the U.S. has barred many people over the years. Third, the U.S. often bars Islamic extremists
OMAR BARGHOUTI: A MAN WITH TWO FACES
In 2005, Omar Barghouti founded the infamous boycott, divest, and sanction (BDS) movement; a movement which on its surface appears to promote the rights of Palestinians by pursuing economic, academic, and cultural boycotts of Israel. Beneath the surface, however, it becomes clear that this movement’s true goal is to bring an end to the State of Israel and replace it with a sovereign Palestinian state.
BDS is an extremist, anti-Zionist movement masked as human rights activism. It should thus come as no surprise that Barghouti also aims to portray himself with the same kind of mask. However, if we take a closer look at his actions and beliefs, we see a very different picture. Who, then, is the man behind the movement?
BDS, Barghouti claims, is a “non-violent human rights movement that seeks freedom, justice and equality for the Palestinian people†and is against the oppressive Israeli regime, not against individuals. However, the BDS movement boycotts Israeli individuals based on their nationality, and Barghouti himself refuses to work with Israelis – even those sympathetic to his cause. A true activist puts the movement above his own personal bias. Yet Barghouti goes so far as to say that Palestinians who engage with Israelis are “clinically delusional,†once again undermining his own movement by placing more significance in his personal prejudice than in achieving the goals of his movement.
Further, Barghouti doesn’t support a two state solution. He wants it replaced with a fully Palestinian state, with all Jews gone. The BDS movement has many links to Islamic terrorist groups, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
(Times Of Israel) Barghouti’s Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement addresses “not only the disputed territories but opposes the very existence of the State of Israel as a Jewish state in its entirety and in any kind of borders,†the communal leaders wrote.
You don’t have to be a Jew hater to be an Israel hater. But, most who seem to be leaders in this do hate Jews, and those who join along very much seem to end up being Jew haters. The NY Times should really consider who they are backing. Sure, Barghouti should be allowed to speak: it doesn’t mean an Islamic extremist and Jew hater should be allowed in to the U.S.
Being a propaganda arm of the New Democrat-Communist Party means the NYT among others must and will toe the line with their anti-Semitic policy. The D-C party is now home for anti Jooo communists and Mohammadans. Now the hated Christians needn’t feel singled out by the left and tossed aside like Western Civ for the benefit of barbarians votes. It’s like the koran directs: convert or die.
Kye,
You are simply filled to the brim with scheisse and it overflows, you old khnyok, you.
No, he knows what he’s talking about.
You fling the fertilizer because there is no rebuttal.
“It’s like the koran directs: convert or die.”
That is, of course, a lie.
It turns out that when one is a low-info, low-intelligence, gullible bigot like Kye, one can be spoon-fed almost any hateful garbage by the Islamophobia industry, and one will regurgitate xenophobic nonsense at the drop of a hat.
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…there are Qur’anic verses that completely prohibit forced conversion. I’ll give example of passages that make this clear. The proof is also in the actions of the Prophet and by looking at Islamic history.
What happens is that people participating in the Islamophobia industry (see the report by the Center for American Progress) take verses out of context and use it to make it seem that Islam is a lot more violent than it is. For example, they usually pull verses out of Surah 9 of the Qur’an (called disassociation) where the major enemies of Islam broke a treaty.
Really bad examples
The above are two great examples of taking verses out of context. Please, if you really think these are general injunctions, just check the context.
3:56 is talking about the the people who plotted against Jesus (specifically) to destroy him. See Surat ‘Ali `Imran [3:53-59]. Even if you accept that this is a general principle (which seems at odds with the context), this is not Allah telling the Muslims to do so, He is simply saying that that is what he will do.
8:12 is talking about the battle of Badr when there was a war between the Muslims who had moved to Madinah, and the Quraysh who had tortured them, beaten them, ostracized them and killed a number of them Surat Al-‘Anfal [8:9-15]. Allah is actually not even giving instructions to people at this point. If you read the verse it’s giving instructions to angels (and yes, I know many people have problems with the concept of angels; let’s leave that for another question).
If you want to quote verses out of context, you can find much better examples than these. But the general principles of Islam and when fighting is permitted is pretty clear:
Surat Al-Mumtahanah [60:8-9]:
Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes – from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion – [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers.
Islamic history also bears this out. In Egypt — to this day, Christians represent a 10% or so minority. How would this have been possible had Islam forced conversion? Furthermore the Golden Age of Judaism, with the most highly regarded Talmudic scholar (Maimonides) was under Muslim reign.
To be clear, Islam is not a pacifist religion. There are times when war is called for — for example, the situation mentioned above when Muslims have been expelled by force. So Surat Al-Baqarah 2:216 makes sense — sometimes you have to fight. This is hardly a controversial or surprising position — Just war theory has been part of Christian discussion for a long time, as well as many other faiths.
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You’re taking info off Quora?
That’s worse than Fascist book.
Islam offers 3 solutions to infidels,; the Book, the sword, or the tax.
Slave girls recruited for the Seraglio were forcibly converted.
Get something a bit more credible. anybody who knows anything about the Crusades (which excles you, it seems) know that.
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Teach typed: “Barghouti doesn’t support a two state solution. He wants it replaced with a fully Palestinian state, with all Jews gone.”
If you take the Jerusalem Institute of Justice (JIJ) article criticizing Barghouti at their word, they reported: “… Barghouti has publicly expressed disapproval for a two-state solution, instead favoring a single Palestinian state with a Jewish minority presence.”
Why does Teach always err on the side conservatism extremism. Why embellish the story to make Barghouti say things that not even the anti-BDS JIJ reported?
Gee whiz, why is the title of the article <a href'”https://jij.org/news/omar-barghouti-man-two-faces/”>A MAN WITH TWO FACES?
The stuff from the article Jeffery, the man who loves playing in Vigoro, didn’t want you to see.
In addition, Barghouti has publicly expressed disapproval for a two-state solution, instead favoring a single Palestinian state with a Jewish minority presence. He believes that a Jewish state and a Palestinian one are incompatible. Even though the BDS movement claims to not advocate for any particular solution, the nature of the movement and the intentions of its founder suggest otherwise. While BDS appears to support one people’s self-determination, the heart of the movement aims to destroy that of another. Implicit in the movement’s advocacy is Barghouti’s personal goal of the elimination of the Jewish state.
Finally, Barghouti is vocal about making false claims of Israeli apartheid, violence against Palestinian children, colonization, and more. At the same time he denies violence and persecution against Jews in Arab states. Furthermore, the BDS movement portrays only one side of the conflict by refusing to even acknowledge the other perspective. By boycotting Israeli academics and culture, and by refusing to teach that there are two or more sides to every story, the BDS movement promotes a culture which values a narrow-minded outlook over balanced learning. Barghouti himself is hypocritical by spreading false information for the purposes of “education†while standing behind a movement which denies the opportunity to question this information.
Truly progressive and open-minded education does not present only one side of the story. Omar Barghouti and the BDS movement use dangerous tactics to delegitimize and ultimately destroy the Jewish state while hiding behind a mask of human rights advocacy. True activism, however, should not need such a mask. If Barghouti practiced what he preached, BDS would be more compelling. The need for him to completely shut down the other side’s perspective, to hide his hypocritical actions, and to use soft language to cover up an extremist ideology show the flaws, as well as the hypocrisy, in his arguments. Hiding behind a mask of human rights advocacy does not take away from his true intentions. The sad irony in all this is that the boycotting of Israeli businesses in the territories actually hurts the Palestinians themselves more than Israelis because it causes Palestinian unemployment!
Edward Dutcher,
Barghouti was reported to have said “Barghouti has publicly expressed disapproval for a two-state solution, instead favoring a single Palestinian state with a Jewish minority presence.â€
How is that eliminating all Jews?
“Why does Teach always err on the side conservatism extremism. Why embellish the story to make Barghouti say things that not even the anti-BDS JIJ reported?”
Because inventing a lie is soooo much easier than finding the facts. Lying right-wing extremists like Porter Good are all about spreading the maximum amount of hatred and misinformation with a minimum of actual work.
He gets the facts. You bring the lies.
We investigate. You get buried.
And you’re full of scheisse.
“You” investigate. LOL.
Really? Bill you are just dumb.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jIBET26iuL4/XLTfLPbP5eI/AAAAAAAB0BI/gRC-YNYCWLINXo7xNoGeaNjY9Tw-q2QGwCLcBGAs/s1600/download%2B%25281%2529-905.jpg
Kye,
Of the 5 US deportees you picture, two had ties to CAIR 15 years ago.
How many tRump associates do you think will be in jail a year from now?
What do you think the problem is with Muslims? Do you think most of them are just waiting for the chance to kill all non-Muslims and enact sharia? It seems like an almost innate hatred of people because of their religion and countries of origin. What do you think of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (formerly Lew Alcindor) who converted to Sunni Islam in 1968?
Oh, you mean after Schiff For Brains and Nadless finish their witch hunts?
Zip. You had your shot. You missed.
Do you think most of them are just waiting for the chance to kill all non-Muslims and enact sharia?
That’s what their book says.
This must be comforting to Boo Boo and that little black fella.
http://tinyurl.com/y63g4atd
I don’t know how many Trump associates will be in jail a year from now. Do you? I didn’t know how many Clinton associates would expire from one thing or another either. I know they were droppin’ like flies though maybe the same thing here. Why?
I think the “problem” with Mohammadans is their despotic religion. Yes, they want to convert or kill all non Islamists and install Sharia law. They say that only 25% or so of the 1.4 billions Mohammadans are terrorists. The rest are just liars. I have no “innate” hatred of anybody not trying to kill me, my family and destroy my country. If you think that’s bad sorry tough shit. If that’s what their religion directs them to do then they are our enemy and should be treated as such. They treat us as enemies don’t they? Don’t they blow up our buildings, kill our people and yell “Allah Akbar” and “Death to America” or is that just a rumor started by white supremacists? And I don’t care what country they’re from I care about the beliefs and cultures they practice. Some are good and good for America some aren’t. Christian Libyans should be granted asylum here not their persecutors the Mohammadans. Unless you have a thing for clitorectomies and throwing fags off buildings I would think you’d agree: all cultures aren’t good!
I think Kareem forsake the Lord and turned to a false god and he is a stupid man. Of course, like all you leftists he practices his “faith” in safe ole USA and makes his millions here too. How well do you think he would have done in Mecca? I know he wouldn’t be a rich basketball player cause there ain’t no NBA in Mecca.
Do you not know that Muslims worship the same god as you?
Just because they say it doesn’t make it so.
Just because a low-info bigot says that all Muslims are terrorists doesn’t make it so.
Never said they were, but, for every striker, there are hundreds, in some cases, thousands of enablers. Not to mention supporters and wannabes.
Just like you.
I suggest you pick up Claire Sterling’s The Terror Network.
Assuming you can read.
Kye typed: “I didn’t know how many Clinton associates would expire from one thing or another either. I know they were droppin’ like flies though maybe the same thing here.”
Do you think Clinton was having people killed? Have you ever looked into this right-wing conspiracy theory (The Clinton Body Count) or do you take it as true?
Here’s a couple of the debunked “suspicious” deaths:
Right-wing version: 4. Paul Tully — DNC Political Director, was found dead in a Little Rock hotel room. No cause was ever determined and no autopsy was allowed. Tully was a key member of the damage control squad and came up with some of the Clinton strategies.
Truth: Paul Tully died on 24 September 1992. Problem is, there wasn’t anything the least bit unusual about his death, so whoever cooked up this list had to lie and claim that “no cause was ever determined†and “no autopsy was allowed.†However, an autopsy was performed, and Tully’s cause of death was determined: a massive heart attack. (Not a surprising demise, given that Tully was extremely overweight, a heavy drinker, and a chain smoker.) According to Steve Nawojczyk, the Pulaski County coroner, “An autopsy by the Arkansas medical examiner’s office discovered advanced coronary artery disease.†He added that investigators found no evidence of external trauma to the body.
Right-wing version: 5. Ed Willey — Clinton fund raiser. Found in the woods in Virginia with a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide.
Truth: Ed Willey was a former Virginia state senator and a lawyer; his wife Kathleen was active in Democratic state politics, worked as a volunteer (including some fund-raising efforts) on behalf of the Clinton campaign in Virginia in 1992, and later served as a volunteer in the White House Social Office. Ed Willey’s death was as clear cut a case of suicide as one is likely to find: he was a desperate, unstable man who (along with his wife) spent money lavishly, stole $275,000 of a client’s money, and was about half a million dollars in debt to the IRS. He took his own life on 29 November 1993, leaving behind a suicide note found by his wife reading: “Saying I’m sorry doesn’t begin to explain. I hope one day you will forgive me.â€
Kye – By all means, please present your case that the Clintons had people killed and we can discuss each one.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-body-bags/
Kye typed: they want to convert or kill all non Islamists and install Sharia law.
That has been covered here before. It’s not true regardless of how many times you type it.
Here’s one Muslim who doesn’t want to kill you, of course you think she’s lying:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/28/im-muslim-heres-how-i-explain-my-faith-to-fearful-americans/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a97876bcbb8e
There are some 3.5 million Muslims in the US (about 1% of the population). If they are all commanded to kill infidels, why aren’t there more Muslim-on-infidel murders? They’re not very good are murder OR sharia.
Kye typed: “…throwing fags off buildings…”
Fags? How old are you? 80? What kind of farshtunkener are you???? Do you call your Asian associates gooks, chinks, coolies, slants, potato queen, yigger etc?
Kye typed: “I think Kareem forsake the Lord and turned to a false god and he is a stupid man.”
He’s a stupid man for his religion? Have you ever listened to him or read any of his essays? He’s not stupid. Allah is Yahweh is God according to the Abrahamic religions. True, Abdul-Jabbar wouldn’t be an NBA player in Mecca – but you think HE’S stupid??
Why shouldn’t the red-blooded patriotic American Abdul-Jabbar get rich in the USA?
Do you think being a Muslim and Black cancels out being an American??
For the first, seems to, second, in your case, yes.
And snopes is your source? Try Think Progress, they’re even less credible.
The husband of the man Willie attacked dies of one of the many convenient suicides in the Ozarks’ wake.
Guy dies and no autopsy was allowed.
You’re the liar, as always.
That’s what liars do.
wiz,
Most of what Con Men believe to be true, is not.
In your case, all of what you believe appears to be false.
Conspiracies everywhere!! Why? Simple. The truth doesn’t match your beliefs.
Since you now find FOX too liberal, where do you get your factual information? Gateway Pudendum? Daily Caller? Breitbart? Daily Stormer?
You don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Very often I get it from the articles you cite. Like the one about the Two Face Man?
I don’t need the benefit of the doubt. I have the facts.
All you have is lies.
So that’s another big ol’ NO.
Got it.
You’re an ignorant old northern redneck.
stormwiz,
Will you cite your source for all the mysterious, suspicious deaths associated with President Clinton?
Thanks..
Google it.
It’s all over.
Another big ol’ NO.
You’re an ignorant old northern redneck.
The Wiz typed: “Guy dies and no autopsy was allowed.”
If you’re referring to Mr. Tully, he HAD and autopsy it is showed clearly he died of a massive heart attack: ‘According to Steve Nawojczyk, the Pulaski County coroner, “An autopsy by the Arkansas medical examiner’s office discovered advanced coronary artery disease.â€
Do YOU have citations to back up YOUR claims?? Or is innuendo enough for you?
Here’s an analysis of a doctored photo showing middle Easterners laughing at the Paris conflagration. It was fake.
https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2019/apr/16/viral-image/photo-muslims-laughing-front-notre-dame-doctored/
Facebook has taken it down.