Excitable John Kasich Wants Free Market Solutions For ‘Climate Change’ Or Something

Remember, we’re supposed to take this guy seriously. As a big time member of #NeverTrump with massive amounts of #TrumpDerangementSyndrome, other Never Trumpers will listen to this nutter

Kasich: Forget the Green New Deal. We need climate solutions from free-market moderates.

There’s a lot of talk these days about the Green New Deal, a progressive Democratic response to the challenge of climate change. While it is intended to improve our environment, many Republicans and even some Democrats fear that it would stifle economic growth and kill jobs, set off a massive redistribution of wealth, and dangerously centralize federal government power.

But for all those problems, the Green New Deal is serving an important purpose by provoking a more vigorous level of public debate. We’ve finally reached a tipping point. Scientists, business leaders, 13 federal government agencies — including the  Defense Department — and most of our allies around the world are convinced that climate change is happening and that strong, concerted actions are needed to minimize its effects.

Not all our political leaders have come on board with that consensus, but denial is no longer enough. The time has come for people who understand the need to be good stewards of our economy as well as our environment to put forward a responsible program.

I am convinced that conservatives and moderates, including many Democrats, can agree on a commonsense set of policies. They would be based on responsible economic principles of free-market capitalism and personal choice, not coercion. They would actually reduce regulation and lighten the heavy hand of government, while stimulating job growth and the economy, encouraging innovation, benefiting working-class Americans and — most important — protecting and improving the environment we share with the world.

And his ideas?

That’s just one example of a national climate change response that could win support from elected leaders with a broad range of political convictions. They can start with a carbon tax or a cap and trade program, which is a market-based trading system to incentivize carbon reduction. These approaches have already shown they can work.

Neither program is free market, as they are established by the government. There is no choice when implemented.

We also need to continue research supporting Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards, the automotive fuel-efficiency requirements that have significantly reduced greenhouse gas pollution in recent years. We should not eliminate or weaken these mandates. CAFE requirements need to stay.

They aren’t going anywhere, Trump just rolled back the massive change made under Obama. And they aren’t free market, either.

And by “invest,” I mean spend a lot of money, not a measly few pennies, on the research and innovation that can make a giant difference in the lives of our people. Strategic investments are needed in technologies that will drive advances in energy derived from renewables — solar and wind — as well as natural gas, a resource we have in abundance. And don’t dismiss nuclear energy, using small-scale modular technologies now being developed.

Not free market.

The United States has no business withdrawing from the Paris Agreement, which the president has threatened. If that international accord is as flawed as the White House insists, we should work to fix it. The American people, our industries, our economic and strategic interests — all need to be at the table. The United States must lead with the accord, not abandon it. There’s too much at stake.

Not free market, and most certainly coercive and takes away personal choice.

The Green New Deal might not be the answer. But it’s asking the right question. It’s time for free-market moderates on both sides of the aisle to come up with answers of their own.

What’s the question, how to empower government and take more money and freedom from citizens?

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11 Responses to “Excitable John Kasich Wants Free Market Solutions For ‘Climate Change’ Or Something”

  1. Hoss says:

    John thinks cap and trade or a straight carbon tax are free-market solutions. You don’t need to go any farther after reading that stupid sh*t.

  2. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Your complaint isn’t that global warming is a hoax but that the solutions are not “free-market” enough for you?

    Are tariffs free market?

    Are patents, copyrights and trademarks free market?

    How about do not compete clauses in employee contracts?

    Is our employer based healthcare system, which keeps some workers in certain jobs, free market?

    Are economic sanctions free market?

    Is ignoring the negative externalities associated with fossil fuels free market?

    Is the “too big to fail” taxpayer backstop for big banks free market?

    There is no such thing as a free market economy in the world, but a carbon tax is communism. Got it.

    • Are tariffs free market? Tariffs are an attempt to level the playing field between nations

      Are patents, copyrights and trademarks free market? Protection of property as agreed on with government as the referees.

      How about do not compete clauses in employee contracts? Yes, not run by govt

      Is our employer based healthcare system, which keeps some workers in certain jobs, free market? Yes, private employers offer it as a perk.

      Are economic sanctions free market? That’s something between nations.

      Is ignoring the negative externalities associated with fossil fuels free market? Are Warmists refusing to give up their own use of fossil fuels hypocrisy? Yes.

      Is the “too big to fail” taxpayer backstop for big banks free market? Hell no, in a real world, they’d be allowed to fail. But, doing that means a lot of people lose a lot of money. We aren’t saying that government has no role in the economy.

      There is no such thing as a free market economy in the world, but a carbon tax is communism. Got it. Didn’t say it was communism. That’s your thought. But, government implementing a carbon tax/cap and trade system, setting the pricing, and then running is as far from free market as it gets. This is Economics 101, bub.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        bub,

        So trillions of taxpayer dollars to bail out greedy and crooked Wall Street millionaires and billionaires IS a valid role of gov’t in the economy, but a carbon tax “is as far from free market as it gets”? How convenient.

        Are patents, copyrights and trademarks free market? bub typed: protection of property as agreed on with government as the referees.

        To your mind this disruption of free markets is another valid role of gov’t in the economy? Should it be 7, 10, 17, 20 year or perpetual monopolies? Is this the best way to reward inventors and spur innovation? (NB – the rewards do not mostly accrue to the inventors but rather to the execs and investors of the corporation granted the monopoly).

        Well bub, you seem to hate government unless it rewards the wealthy – taking money and productivity from the working classes and redistributing to the rich. That’s GOP101, bub.

        • “So trillions of taxpayer dollars to bail out greedy and crooked Wall Street millionaires and billionaires IS a valid role of gov’t in the economy, but a carbon tax “is as far from free market as it gets”? How convenient.”

          Never said that. The banks needed to be saved, not those profiting off that. And Conservatives were saying this same thing back when Bush, then Obama, were bailing them out.

          A carbon tax isn’t free market, it’s pure government force.

          • Bill Bear says:

            So it seems that your opposition to the conclusions of climate science is based on your obsession with the free market… and not on any actual science.

            Got it.

      • Bill Bear says:

        “Protection of property as agreed on with government as the referees.”

        Wait, wait… you are going to let the government bring GOVERNMENT FORCE to bear to determine the outcome of disputes over patents, copyrights, and trademarks?

        Not free market.

        “Is ignoring the negative externalities associated with fossil fuels free market?”

        Funny how that question didn’t get an answer.

        Hmmm…

      • Bill Bear says:

        William:

        First question: Do private concerns pollute the atmosphere when they discharge carbon compounds into it?

        Yes or no?

    • formwiz says:

      Your complaint isn’t that global warming is a hoax but that the solutions are not “free-market” enough for you?

      Are tariffs free market?

      Are patents, copyrights and trademarks free market?

      How about do not compete clauses in employee contracts?

      Is our employer based healthcare system, which keeps some workers in certain jobs, free market?

      Are economic sanctions free market?

      Is ignoring the negative externalities associated with fossil fuels free market?

      There is no such thing as a free market economy in the world, but a carbon tax is communism. Got it.

      As always, when Harvey has no real rebuttal, she falls back on sophistry?

      Taxes aren’t free market, they impede it.

      The rest of his rant is just trying to change the subject.

      The issue is even many Democrats didn’t like cap and trade because they knew what it would do to the economy.

      Kasich is just trying to be the next St John of Hanoi and Jessica says that since there is no stereotypical free market, we need to go straight to socialism.

      Baloney.

  3. MrToad says:

    I for one, offer a “pledge” to Kasich. I don’t actually support him in any way, shape or form. I just want him to know I’m ‘pledging’ for him like he ‘pledged’ to us in 2016. Cheers, this pledge is for you John!

  4. Professor Hale says:

    There is nothing “free Market” about a solution imposed by the federal government when we are all doing just fine the way things are.

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