Collectivism Is Latest Warmist Idea To Convince People To Care About AGW

Someone did a study, and came up with a dandy idea

(Huffington Post) How do you persuade someone to take action on climate change?

Conventional wisdom says to convince people that it’s their duty to recycle more, drive less or eat fewer burgers. But that might not be the best motivator, according to a new study from researchers at The University of California, San Diego.

Instead, if people believe climate change to be an issue of collective responsibility — that is, if they think it’s caused by a global reliance on fossil fuels, for instance — they’re more likely to actually do something about it.

Interesting. But, this is the way Warmists have been positioning anthropogenic climate change for decades, that we’re all doomed and that we all need to Do Something. Yet, even among those who believe heavily in AGW, there is little action within their own lives.

Environmental activists have tended to assume that appeals to personal responsibility would get people fired up about slowing the rapid pace of climate change, Obradovich added. Convincing people to contribute to a climate change campaign or reduce their carbon footprint meant asking them to think about how their everyday behaviors — how they eat, get around or use electricity — might be contributing to the problem.

But when Obradovich asked participants in his study to think about climate change in collective terms, he found that their donations to a pro-climate advocacy organization jumped by 50 percent.

In other words, Warmists are happy to pony up a bit of money so that Other People can do something, because they damned sure won’t change their own modern big carbon footprint lives.

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25 Responses to “Collectivism Is Latest Warmist Idea To Convince People To Care About AGW”

  1. John says:

    The first national leader to warn us about climate change was Maggie Thatcher in the mid 80s back when your Lord Monkeyton was claiming to be her science advisor
    I still haven’t been able to figure out how putting solar panels on a house gives the government more control

  2. Odysseus says:

    So Watermelons spray painted pink?

  3. david7134 says:

    I don’t think you can figure out a large number of things. Now, if the government wants to push solar panels, good. If it wants to give tax breaks for a crack pot idea, then that is taking money away from the common good. Thatcher was a very good leader, but all leaders make some mistakes, no politician is perfect. So why do you insist that they be?

  4. Jeffery says:

    Teach typed for the billionth time:

    Yet, even among those who believe heavily in AGW, there is little action within their own lives.

    Anything to support your contention other than anecdotes about our President and celebrities??

    I didn’t think so.

  5. Zhytamyr says:

    “Yet, even among those who believe heavily in AGW, there is little action within their own lives.

    Anything to support your contention other than anecdotes about our President and celebrities??”

    So…I take it that you’re living off grid, in a yurt, sustainably farming without any technology more recent than the Stone Age?

  6. jl says:

    “How do persuade someone to take action on climate change?” Well, if you’re a liberal you could go the totalitarian route like some have done and file a racketeering charge against skeptics. You will be made to believe, comrade. Or, the scientific way by proving that whatever warming is happening will be detrimental to the planet. But that’s impossible because there is no proof of that, other than assertions and speculation. The one thing that has happened, a slight greening of the planet, is benificial.

  7. Jeffery says:


    In case you forgot, here’s what The Teach typed:

    among those who believe heavily in AGW, there is little action within their own lives.

    You move the goalposts from “little action” to “living off the grid”, typing:

    So…I take it that you’re living off grid, in a yurt, sustainably farming without any technology more recent than the Stone Age?

    So unless you’re living off the grid you’re taking “little action”? LOL. The only acceptable life for a climate realist is NO energy consumption? LOL

    That’s a common debate tactic used by the unthinking conservatist, to demand perfection from others. Come back with an argument or with evidence supporting Teach’s claim.

  8. Jeffery says:


    Are you a small government conservative? If so, do you refuse public schools, breathing clean air, drinking clean water, driving on public thoroughfares… do you eschew police protections, fire protections… will you refuse to accept Medicare and Social Security, unemployment payments… do you avoid parks and libraries, (lol, my mistake)?

    Did you support the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq? Did you serve there? If so, thank you. If not, why not?

    Do you live in a red state? Most red states rely on federal funds to survive because the blue states are more productive and pay more federal taxes.

  9. Zhytamyr says:

    Sure, I’ll bite, what marginal virtue signaling steps do you take to protect the world from AGW?

  10. Jeffery says:

    Besides what I do in my personal life (which is what the ad hominem attackers are interested in rather than the argument), I only support politicians who recognize the seriousness of global warming. For example, I’ll donate too and vote for the Democratic nominee for president.

  11. Zhytamyr says:

    So, actually nothing.

  12. Jeffery says:


    No, not nothing. My carbon use is about 1/2 the national average. But regardless of how much I do personally, it won’t be enough for you, because you have no interest in the subject.

    Tell me about your life and your use of government funds. Two of your compatriot extremists here revealed that they receive direct government monies as part of their businesses. You too?

    See how this works?

  13. Zhytamyr says:

    Not nothing, just next to nothing? How praiseworthy.

  14. Jeffery says:


    And your point is? You attack me personally because you have no argument on the topic.

    This is just another right wing tactic to avoid discussing issues. Attack the other person, not the argument.

    If everyone polluted as little as I do we’d have half the problem we have now.

    Tell me about your life, flute blower.

  15. Jeffery says:


    And I’ve been living this simple life for over 40 years. If everyone had lived as I have for the past 40 years we’d have no problem.

    What do you do in your life to be less of a freeloader off the rest of us? Or are you a typical conservacrite?

  16. Zhytamyr says:

    You vote left & you’re worried about freeloaders? Fantastic.

  17. Jeffery says:


    So you do freeload off the rest of us while whining about government spending. Got it. Typical.

    Buh bye. Come back when you have something relevant to discuss.

  18. Zhytamyr says:

    No, I don’t freeload off of the govt. As much as you are concerned with it, I would guess that you suckle from the govt teat. Are you a subcontractor or some minor bureaucrat somewhere? Yeah, don’t care.

  19. Jeffery says:

    Yikes, the record heat in Alberta is doubling the size of the already huge wildfire.

    We had an uncharacteristic hot, humid day here and it triggered a massive line of storms.

  20. Jeffery says:

    Yeah, we’ll take your word for it that you don’t use any government services. LOL.

    I’m an entrepreneur who’s risked hundreds of thousands of $, and I’ve been very fortunate. My taxes help support the likes of you. You’re welcome.

  21. Jeffery says:

    Giving it further thought, we realized your personal use of government resources isn’t particularly relevant to your argument about a limited role for government. We realized we were making an ad hominem attack on you in an effort to trivialize your argument. It’s what Mr. Teach does to invalidate the arguments of those who oppose his positions. We apologize.

  22. david7134 says:

    You may be new to the comments here and don’t know about old Jeff. What he has written, he has written numerous times to anyone new. Jeff has a corporation, but demeans all who would try to do the same. He decries those that have possibly used government resources, even though he has enjoyed unparalleled access to the government tit. The government has paid for his education and assisted in setting up his drug manufacturing company, in St. Louis if you want to look it up. He takes all the tax breaks then complains about others that do so. His company also sells it drugs at a hefty premium, yet he really goes on about it if you have a legitimate job and earn a living. He proclaims himself to be a scientist, yet knows nothing about science. He really knows nothing about any other subject. Save some time and ignore him.

  23. Zhytamyr says:

    Dave, I appreciate the info. I confess that I enjoy baiting Jeff. It appears that he has so little in his life that in a sputtering rage he craps out near psychotic ramblings 3 at a time. You can keep him tied down all day by responding every few hours in a non-confrontational manner. He’s a cartoon of the left, it’s entertaining as heck.

  24. Jeffery says:


    Stop lying, troll. Doesn’t your Klavern meet Saturday nights?

  25. Jeffery says:


    You’re right about one thing. Zamateur needs some help.

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