The Winners Of Today’s “Climate Change Causes Earthquakes” Sweepstake Are…

You know how this works. Something happens that has always been considered a natural event, except in villain type movies and conspiracy theory literature, like earthquakes, volcanoes, tornadoes, etc, and the modern day wackos blame it on human-induced “climate change”

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These people are all bat shit insane.

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10 Responses to “The Winners Of Today’s “Climate Change Causes Earthquakes” Sweepstake Are…”

  1. John says:

    Teach there are always people on the fringe however one difference between the people who do believe in science and the deniers is that your group elects them to high office like Sen Inhofe who says that God controls the climate ( and I guess avalanches also)
    Other christianists say that the climate is changing only because God hates the gays and is punishing us
    Yes the temps are rising niw faster than in the last 1 million years and this is happening while we have a cold Sun

  2. JohnAllen says:

    Other christianists say that the climate is changing only because God hates the gays and is punishing us

    Yes there are idiots everywhere including on the conservative side. Its just that we have them in ones, two and dozens while on the liberal side they are simply in the majority.

  3. JGlanton says:

    All of these climatologist mystics make me glad I’ve resisted going on Twitter. Take Mr. Spooky Tornado Scaremonger Jake Simonson, for example. How stupid do you have to be to make a statement like that and not even check the tornado count page at NOAA?

    The US has had 384 tornados year to date against an average of 599. The fool might as well claim that lack of tornados is proof of climate change.

    http://www.spc.noaa.gov/wcm/ptorngraph-big.png

  4. Jeffery says:

    Glanton,

    If you’re actually interested. Here’s a great interactive link for tornadoes – year, month, date, time of day, Fujita scale etc. They appear to use NOAA data.

    http://www.tornadohistoryproject.com/

    The number of tornadoes in the US (recognizing US is only about 2% of global area) has clearly increased between 1950 and now. Part could be reporting, part is global warming. In 1952, 240 tornadoes were reported; in the peak year 2004, 1817 were reported.

    22 of the worst 25 tornado years occurred in the past 25 years (as recorded since 1950).

    The twits that twitter may be wackos or bat shit insane, but not because they think that global warming can influence seismic activity. It can. Is global warming and the resulting deglaciation contributing to major earthquakes now? Almost certainly not. So both groups are right and wrong.

  5. jl says:

    “Part could be reporting, part is global warming.” Thought you could slip that one by, did you? Part obviously is reporting, as no doubt many tornadoes in the past weren’t seen by anybody, whereas today there are many more trained spotters. There is absolutely no proof “global warming” causes any more, or any less, tornadoes.

  6. jl says:

    “In the peak year 2004, 1817 were reported.” Of course by “theory” the peak year should be when there’s the most CO2, but that’s not true. “22 of the worst 25 tornado years occurred in the past 25 years. (as recorded since 1950).” Wow- so much confusion in there. The first major disqualifier is “since 1950”. 65 years of data is way too minute to discern any kind of a trend. As said above, the fact that there’s been more reported in the last 25 years is without doubt simply because there’s more people in their way to report them. And add that to the fact that there are probably hundreds of reasons known, and unknown, besides the alleged CO2 factor, that go into the why and why not of tornado formation.One could just as accurately say there are more tornadoes because there’s more people as to say it’s from “global warming”.

  7. Jeffery says:

    jl,

    Of course by “theory” the peak year should be when there’s the most CO2, but that’s not true.

    Sure, in a naïve, unscientific sense.

    All I’m doing is reporting the best data available. Since NOAA started reporting tornado frequency and intensity, the number is increasing and correlates with the temperature increase. I don’t even have to cherry pick intervals like Deniers do. The trend line between 1950 to 2014 is up, up, up.

  8. Steve57 says:

    Jeffrey, you are completely and utterly full of BS.

    http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/tornado/clim/EF3-EF5.png

    There is no upward trend.

    You’re right about one thing. You don’t cherry pick your data.

    You just have no data.

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-information/extreme-events/us-tornado-climatology/trends

    “With increased National Doppler radar coverage, increasing population, and greater attention to tornado reporting, there has been an increase in the number of tornado reports over the past several decades. This can create a misleading appearance of an increasing trend in tornado frequency. To better understand the variability and trend in tornado frequency in the United States, the total number of EF-1 and stronger, as well as strong to violent tornadoes (EF-3 to EF-5 category on the Enhanced Fujita scale) can be analyzed. These tornadoes would have likely been reported even during the decades before Doppler radar use became widespread and practices resulted in increasing tornado reports. The bar charts below indicate there has been little trend in the frequency of the stronger tornadoes over the past 55 years.

  9. Jeffery says:

    Steve57,

    As I said, the total number of tornadoes have increased during the reporting period.

    You and NOAA are “adjusting” the data by removing weaker tornadoes.

    Here’s the raw data:

    1952: 240 tornadoes
    2004: 1817 tornadoes

    Oh, and you suck donkey.

  10. Steve57 says:

    Super genius, there’s a reason for that difference and it ain’t global warming.

    It’s called, among other things, doppler radar.

    NOAA explained why they only used tornadoes that were strong to enough that they would have been reported in prior decades to establish trends. Otherwise people would fall for the misleading impression that there’s been an increase in total tornadoes.

    You fell for it. You are easily misled because you’re not very bright. No wonder you’re a global warming cultist.

    You need a court appointed guardian.

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