They just can’t help themselves
Tempted to joke about global warming amid a blizzard? Here’s what experts say about that.
Climate change is real despite winter storms, snow and cold. But when -50 degree windchills are in the forecast, global warming may seem to some like less of a threat — or maybe even something to laugh about.
Just like clockwork, the emails, tweets and Facebook posts start flowing during the winter.
Maybe it’s a joke, maybe it’s a snarky critique, maybe it’s a meme. The words change, but the format is familiar: If global warming is real, why is it so cold out?
We asked experts to weigh in on the winter weather trope. Here’s a few thoughts on what winter means in an era of global warming. (snip)
Global temperatures have risen 1.9 degrees Fahrenheit since 1880. That doesn’t mean it’s hotter everywhere all at once but that the entire system is becoming more volatile.
“As you add energy to the system, both extremes grow. You can have Texas ice storms as well as 33 million people displaced in Pakistan due to heat and flooding,” said Julio Friedmann, chief scientist at Carbon Direct, a carbon-management firm and a former professor at Columbia University. “These sorts of changes were predicted in 1996, it’s not news that this is happening.”
I’ll reiterate: the debate is not about warming, because there has been. It’s on causation. And, if the Warmists say it’s mostly/solely caused by Mankind, then why are they continuing to do the things they say are bad?
“As you add energy to the system, both extremes grow.”
Uh, no.
“As you add energy to the system, both extremes grow.”
Um, yes, that does seem to be the case.
Dear Elwood:
You cannot create energy. And if the capture of reflected sunlight changes into warm air, then the warmth will seek to become cooler.
Study the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
James,
There is no claim that energy is being created.
The Sun warms the Earth. The Earth warms the atmosphere. The Earth and its atmosphere radiate heat away into space. Most of the heat that is received from the Sun is radiated into space, so the average temperature of the Earth stays more or less constant. Greenhouse gases trap some of the escaping heat slowing the loss of heat from the Earth. A blanket doesn’t create energy but it does slow the loss of heat from your body. Does a blanket violate the 2nd Law of thermodynamics?
Where is the 2nd Law of thermodynamics violated? “Skeptics” argue that a cooler atmosphere cannot warm a warmer Earth, which is true, but that is not what happens. So-called “skeptics” constructed a straw man to tear down.
YOU study the 2nd Law of thermodynamics!
Matter emits radiation as long as it’s warmer than absolute zero. It’s the law!
James typed: the warmth will seek to become cooler
Atoms don’t “seek” cold. Warmer atoms/molecules move faster than cooler ones. When a warm molecule bumps into a cool molecule, the warm one gets cooler, the cool one warmer.
Photons in the IR, visible, UV, x-ray and gamma wavelengths come from the Sun and interact with atoms/molecules in our atmosphere, water, soil, roads, roofs, animals and plants etc. Matter absorbs the energy and responds by moving more rapidly – rotating, vibrating, moving – bumping into other atoms and molecules.
This absorbed energy is re-emitted at less energetic wavelengths – infrared (IR) – invisible to humans but sensed as heat. Most of this IR escapes into space. Some is absorbed by gases in the atmosphere, primarily water, methane and CO2. And is re-mitted by these molecules or transferred by bumping into “cooler” molecules.
Tell us where you got your degree in physics. As always your explanations are idiotic.
OOOK say you’re a pot of water on the stove, say you add energy to it, turn on the burner ‘neath the pot.
Does it get hotter and hotter or hotter and colder?
I’d think even a former professor at Columbia University should be able to answer that.
Hi Jim,
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The Earth is a bit more complex than a pot of water. Can you believe that one place on earth can be 134°F while another is -117°F? Pots of water also don’t have thousand mile ocean currents, 30,000 ft deep oceans, polar vortices, jet streams, a sunny side and dark side at the same time etc.
Elwood,
Where do they put the thermometer? Same place in 1880 as today? How did we cause the ice ages that came before? Did we cause the end of the last ice age? Do environmental scientists fart? More than cows? If they subsisted only on algae would that help? Why do they fly private jets? Shouldn’t they walk everywhere?
I have a million more questions to ask well informed persons such as yourself.
Thanks,
Jim
Jim,
We have educated Jeff on all these principals. It is useless, he is beyond education and it is clear he is using natural changes in the climate to destroy the US, although Biden is now doing more destruction than any enemy we have faced. Just ignore the asshole.
Why, yes it is.
Yet liberal idiots (BIRM) continue to say that a small rise in CO2 results in universal doom.
Actually, a pot will have some spots cooler than some others. They are not uniform in construction.
Let’s hear your next stupid response.
People of all political persuasions accept that change comes slowly.
Teach thinks others who do not live 100% in alignment with their politics are hypocritical.
Teach himself while parroting the “abortion is murder” has never really done anything other than “pontificating and
Yammering” about it. Never any direct personal action.
Americans (including Teach) have been reducing their carbon footprint by 1% per year for the last 20 years. As we continue to electrify I expect to see more years where that footprint drops by 2%. Maybe even more if we see fossil fuel prices “skyrocket” while electric prices maintain their 2/3% typical increase.
Oh and Chevy Bolt price with expected price decrease will be selling for 21000$l
Teach if temps are as you agree riding, what do you think is the cause?
More shortwave radiation from the sun, amongst other possible factors, as laid out in front of you many times, Johnny boy…
“Americans have been reducing their carbon footprint…”. And China has been increasing theirs, wiping out any “carbon reduction” anywhere else.
That’s right.
Conservatives scream that “abortion is murder!” yet do little other than shout. They stand idly by as liberals and women murder hundreds of thousands of innocent babies every year in the US alone!! Sure, sure, they claim their votes for anti-abortion GOPhers is action enough. We’ll take abortion seriously when the anti-abortionists act like it’s murder.
Conservatives claim US government spending is destroying America by causing inflation, record debt, record borrowing and bastardizing markets. Yet, conservatives collect Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid that account for well over 50% of federal spending!! We’ll take federal spending seriously when the anti-spending right acts like it’s serious.
>> We’ll take federal spending seriously when the anti-spending right acts like it’s serious.
That’s the ticket.
We’ll stop screwing up if, as, and when YOU stop screwing up. Which makes a lot of sense. None of that leading by example stuff – that’s just stupid.
G.D help us, this is the kind of logic that wins elections.
You want us to murder abortionists the Lefties murder Conservatives?
Works for me.
And you pay for inflation like the rest of the country, Jeffery. Sop you screw yourself, which is all you do in Mommy’s basement.
The Ohio HR Block clerk is back and stupider than ever!! Stow your hate in teh silver lake.
Are you still window peeping at your local teens, pervert?
Teach himself while parroting the “abortion is murder” has never really done anything other than “pontificating and
Yammering” about it. Never any direct personal action.
Neither you nor dowd know what any of us do in support of the ideals and beliefs we have. You just assume like you usually do because you project your own shortcomings onto us. I support Focus On Family and a Sonogram program for pregnant girls/women. Over the last ten years our local FoF has saved maybe 100 kids or more from being killed and so far not on parent that had their baby has tried to kill their baby. We provide adoption services, counselling, financial support, post birth support, health care and continuing education. We also have job search , training and placement. So I find value in it. Maybe you don’t. I realize saving another’s life is not high priority to leftists especially babies or children.
Do you consider that “direct personal action” or must I murder doctors, nurses and women like dowd suggested L’Roy do?
LG,
Good for you!! But what does “I support” mean? You likely also “support” politicians who would create laws making a fertilized egg a person.
But again, if YOU really believed that abortion was murder, we would expect action.
Your “actions” admit that abortion is not murder. You may object to abortions. You may vote for so-called “pro-life” politicians. You may donate to Focus on the Family. But none of that makes a young woman obtaining a legal abortion a “murderer” any more than the sperm donating man a “murderer”.
My actions are what amount to what is legal. What else would you suggest I do? How much can I do? I try to help women who want to kill their children. Most moral people would consider that good. You seem to thing it’s wrong.
You have a very narrow view of abortion. If you refuse to acknowledge the humanity of a baby in the womb then there can never be any agreement about abortion. If you keep saying that it is acceptable to kill an unborn child because he is an inconvenience then all abortion is to you is birth control.
The thing is dowd, neither you nor I nor all of medicine can actually say when life begins. The argument is as old as mankind. In my religion we’re taught God knew us before we were born and I have seen no scientific evidence that refutes it.
You immediately dial it to eleven with: But none of that makes a young woman obtaining a legal abortion a “murderer” any more than the sperm donating man a “murderer”.
I’m willing to admit perhaps just “a fertilized egg” is not a person if you can admit that somewhere between an egg being fertilized and the infant being born it becomes one. Well? If killing a fertilized egg is not murder to you at what point is killing a baby murder?
I really wish people like you were as adamant about loving life as much as you are about preserving death. Or since you don’t believe the fertilized egg is human then preserving “un-life”. Even though an ultrasound will prove you wrong.
There is something macabre and evil about a political philosophy that does not value life either at the beginning or at the end. The 20th century has shown those of us with open eyes what becomes of those societies.
Sperms and eggs are both alive. So is a fertilized egg.
Americans tolerated the compromise of Roe v Wade for decades. Over 93% of abortions occur in the first trimester.
Now anti-abortionists want to ban all abortions; ban all abortions after 6 weeks gestation (often before a woman knows she’s pregnant); ban abortions except for fatal threats to the woman.
If your position is that a fertilized egg is a person, then your only moral position is to ban all abortions as 1st degree murder, period. IUDs and Morning After pills must be banned as they are very likely to prevent uterine implantation of a fertilized egg (baby), resulting in a baby being flushed down a toilet.
54% of all abortions are now medication (non-surgical) abortions and will undoubtedly increase. If a pregnant woman has a “miscarriage” how do you know she didn’t murder her “baby”? Obviously, the police must investigate.
In practice, far-right legislatures* will ignore the actual law they create and let miscarriages slide. They will enact state laws to ban IUDs and Plan B, while ignoring imports from free states. They’ll create laws limiting a woman’s freedom to travel for abortion and look the other way when they head to Kansas or Illinois. This is all about “virtue signaling” and now trying to keep all young women from abandoning the GOP.
Girls have the tough guy nuGOPhers running scared! LOL.
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*TX, OK, MO, AR, LA, AL, TN, KY, WV, ID, SD, MS have bans. GA allows only before cardiac activity (~ 6 weeks).
Most other states still follow the guidance of Roe v Wade.
Well, since you have to steal elections to win, it gets hard to elect honest pioliticians.
OTOH If you want another civil war, be happy to give it to you.
Another tRumpian.
Did you read that tRump didn’t/doesn’t believe he actually won? He played you morons. He has raised millions from the tRumpetista, LOL.
Listen, if you morons want to attack the nation again, by all means, knock yourselves out. We have prisons being stocked with tRumpians now. The leader of your rebellion, tRump, curiously has avoided prison.
A sure sign the science is on your side is when it’s not proper to joke about it…
Jill,
They are just trying to spare you the humiliation of exposing you know little about climate.
You nailed it, J! That’s the problem- we know so relatively little about the chaotic climate system yet the warmies still act like the science is settled. CO2 was going to be “the” culprit, no matter what. When “scientists” come up with a hypothesis, the normal procedure is for those who hypothesized it to try and falsity it. This wasn’t done, obviously
Jill,
Science is rarely settled. A scientific theory can by “falsified” with data.
Did the sceptics show that CO2 doesn’t absorb infrared radiation? Did sceptics show that it’s not warming? Sceptics propose alternative hypotheses to replace CO2 based global warming but can’t follow up with credible evidence.
“Did skeptics show CO2 doesn’t absorb infrared radiation”? No, but that was never in doubt. The amount absorbed and the effects are still being debated. And numerous papers have showed other factors over-ride the alleged effects of CO2. “Did they show it’s not warming”? They showed the cause of the warming and the amount of warming are in doubt. More importantly, they showed there is no verifiable evidence that the warming is causing any dangerous situation. “Skeptics propose alternative hypotheses…but no evidence”. There’s all kinds of evidence of a decrease in clouds and an increase in SW radiation from the sun.
“A theory can be falsified with data”. Says the folks who’ve recently been saying, in effect, “a warming Arctic causes winter…..in winter”?
Jl,
This is the same round robin arguments that Jeff gets into. It is senseless. Sure CO2 absorbs infrared at a specific spectrum. This has been shown not to be a major factor. And we pointed that out to Jeff numerous times. Then he is obsessed with the correlation issue, which has fallen apart and correlation is not enough to ever definitely associate with cause, in fact almost never. Jeff’s CO2 issue is only a hypothesis, not a theory. He has never ever provided adequate information to say fossil fuels do anything to climate. He only goes on and on about our ability to disprove the concept. But that is not how it works, he must provide evidence to prove and he can’t.
We try to spare you the humiliation of exposing you know little about climate.
Never works.
For those that don’t know, Jeff’s crap about Social Security and Medicare are not new. He has been going on about that concept for years, we have educated him about the fact that those programs took our money and we are getting it back, but he is way too stupid to understand.
Jl, Jeff knows next to nothing about the climate.
Daffy Doc,
You are incapable of teaching anyone anything, you stupid ass. What you call “education”, the truth calls making excuses.
If you want to cut federal spending, you have to cut 1)SS 2)Medicare/Medicaid 3) Defense or default on 4) interest on loans. We’ll take you fiscal conservatives serious when you get of the gubmint gravy train.
We bet you want to keep your Social Security and cheap healthcare but stop for the next generation. NuCon/Putin apologists have joined the trump train and are willing to slash defense spending. Are you up for that too?
Another false dichotomy, Rimjob.
You do know what that logical fallacy means, right?
#Galera
#LetsGoBrandon
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Dear Elwood:
Medicare and Medicaid are two separate programs.
Medicare is funded by pay role deductions from working tax payers and cover only part of some medical expenses. Plus, the recipient pays a monthly premium based on income level.
Social Security is funded by the employee and employer. Yet part of/all of the payout is taxed based on the income of the recipient. Plus, payout is based on the amount paid in.
There is no “gravy train.”
You are a great example of “Stupid is as stupid does.”
James,
“Stupid is as stupid does.”
“So much stupid; so little time!”
Healthcare IS expensive and healthcare for seniors is incredibly expensive, which is why the government had to step in.
You DO realize that Medicare is ALSO funded by general revenues, don’t you? In fact, some 50% of Medicare is funded from general revenues! 35% of total Medicare costs are paid by Medicare taxes. About 15% are paid by our Medicare premiums. The dedicated Medicare tax on income (1.45% from both worker and employer; total 2.9%) has no income limit. If you make $40,000 you and your employer together pay in $1,160 per year. If you make $400,000 you and your employer together pay in $11,600 per year.
Don’t think for one minute that current Social Security and Medicare are paid for what we old folks paid in years past. We oldsters are being paid today by people working today (BTW, the Mrs and I are still employed). There IS a gravy train. Why else do conservatives always talk about gutting Social Security and Medicare? Duh.
In normal (non-pandemic) years Social Security costs nearly 1/3rd of the annual budget. Healthcare (Medicare and Medicaid) costs another 1/3rd. Defense costs about another 1/3rd. That’s where your tax monies go. About 50% of federal revenues come from progressive personal income tax. Some 40% comes from regressive payroll taxes (SS and Medicare). About 10% comes from corporate taxes.
“Stupid is as stupid does.”
Stupid just is.
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Good job, Rodney! But you’re putting Porter Good in danger.
So you admit the old age welfare is nothing but vote buying.
Again, when enough people start going hungry because of inflation, they will listen, although most realize it already.
The Zers and such are already complaining about paying into it when they know they’ll never see it. People are waking up.
From the WSJ today-“European demand, especially Germany and Poland, is one reason why the world is in track for record coal consumption in 2022”. You mean wind and solar can’t keep the lights on?
Remember, no joking about coal…..
You pegged it, JL. Just ask a Texan or a German how well the un-reliabe energy keeps you warm and cooks food. Don’t even think about charging your EV.
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Dear Elwood:
The federal abortion argument is settled. The USSC has turned the question back to the states, who, per the 10th Amendment, have made their laws.
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Lewis,
Abortions are still being performed. The cowardly state GOPhers wanted it for a political issue, but they haven’t stopped them.
How can you stand it knowing hundreds of thousands of babies are being murdered every year?
Do you oppose all abortions? Do you feel that human personhood begins at conception?
Rimjob is a special kind of stupid who uses logical fallacy and half-truths, as well as moral relativism to push an agenda which is antithetical to the behavior and thought of any decent person.
Yet he persists.
#Galera
#LetsGoBrandon
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ShitLips is a special kind of stupid who never, ever, never discusses ideas. He’s an imbecilic piece of shit who substitutes buzzwords for reason or logic. He pushes an agenda that is antithetical to the behavior and thought of any decent person.
Yet he infests.
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#Ye/tRump 2024
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Old Teach Proverb:
You always know when Jeffery is losing. The profanity starts.
Pups,
Look at that, he is using big words, impressed. But Jeff is wrong. We discuss things, like how stupid Jeff is and how he destroyed his corporation.
Jeff just can’t understand that social security and Medicare took our money and we are getting it back.
It’s his thoughtful intelligent ” responses that are so endearing.
Original too!
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Fluffer One (Daffy Doc) and Fluffer Two (ShitLips)! 69 forever!
Fluffer One is a disgraced doctor (nicknamed Dr Mal Practice, LOL), white supremacist on the government dole. Fluffer Two is an unemployed, registered sex offender not permitted within 1000 ft of schools or daycares, who still lives with his mother, but only his “band” makes it big.
Elwood there is nothing cowardly about standing for life. Only leftists turned it into a political issue. It was always a moral issue but since the left is bereft of morality they went political. Besides, nothing says “I hate God” better than murdering his tiny miracles.
You’re obviously proud that abortions haven’t been stopped. I guess the more murder the better, eh Mengele Jr.? One would figure all decent folks would rather have no abortion yet you relish in the thought they continue.
How can you stand it knowing hundreds of thousands of babies are being murdered every year?
You’re kidding, right? You and yours encourage their murder and then ask that stupid morally empty question? How can you stand it, you’re the one who supports it? You would have made a great German in 1933.
Ya know dowd, if you ever wondered whether you would have complied with the Nazi’s in 1930 Germany think of what you’ve done regarding Covid, and the bullshit lies you believed about those “funny” elections, the stupidity of “transsexuality” and how you ignored the border crisis. As well as your dedication to the torture and murder of tiny babies. Now you know you would have been a loyal Nazi just like you are now. And we know too. We know you by your works. We’ve seen people like you before. In Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, the killing fields of Cambodia the slaughters all over the Middle East and Africa.
You and your comrade Hairy are NIT’s. Nazis in training. And it looks like you’ll graduate summa cum laude.
You comment around here all puffed out like you’re some kind of moral oracle but you just repeat the same murderous bull every previous tyrant has used to destroy mankind. You’re nothing new, just worse because by now you should know better.
You yap “follow the science” until the science says it’s a baby human, of a woman is a woman or the climate is just fine then suddenly POOF! that disappears. Just like your lies about “My body, my choice” don’t apply to fake vaccines only killing babies.
You and your entire cult of murderous hedonists, perverts and corrupt thieves deserve no quarter. You are the depth of human depravity and conceit.
Do you oppose all abortions? Do you feel that human personhood begins at conception?
No, we believe human life begins at conception. What exactly do you think “conception” means? It means fertilization, genesis, origination, and most succinctly: creation. Once something is created it exists. Follow the science.
We’re also realistic enough to understand that sadly sometimes abortion could be the only moral answer. Do you have the moral capability to understand usually it does not and is being used to destroy human beings as birth control?
LRoy,
Any normal, decent human would not just whine about the murder of babies but would do something. We have a 2nd Amendment that permits you to take a high-powered rifle and block the murderous women and doctors from murdering innocent, helpless babies. Instead, you spend your time writing meaningless screeds on a right-wing blog calling others murderers and Nazis.
If you ACTUALLY BELIEVED abortion was murder, you would do something unless you’re an abject coward. YOUR cowardice has allowed millions of innocent helpless babies to be chopped into pieces and thrown into the trash.
According to you, sometimes abortion is murder and sometimes it isn’t. Who decides? If an 11 year old girl is raped and impregnated by her Uncle David, would it be moral to murder the innocent, helpless baby? If so, why? If an innocent, helpless baby implants outside the uterus (ectopic pregnancy), is it moral to murder the innocent, helpless baby? Why is the woman’s life more important than the baby’s?
Every year at least a million innocent, helpless babies do not implant in a uterine lining and end up flushed down a toilet or thrown into the trash with a used tampon. Why do you ignore those human lives; those babies? Too much trouble?
IUDs function, in part, by making the uterine lining inhospitable to the implantation of innocent, helpless babies. Should IUDs be banned as murder devices? “Morning After” pills are believed to block implantation of an innocent, helpless baby in the uterine lining. Should these be banned?
And this should scare you the most. Over half of abortions are now so-called “medication” abortions where doctors prescribe mifepristone and misoprostol up to 12 weeks gestation. Should use of these FDA-approved drugs be banned?
Your religious belief that conception (that second when a sperm fuses with an egg) is creation is not relevant. You shouldn’t try to impose your religious beliefs on others.
Murder-supporting women voted and prevented the takeover of government by the anti-abortionists. The GOP while vile, is not stupid. 85% of Americans think abortion should be legal; 13% believe abortions should never be used. Red state by red state, the legislatures will compromise or be put out. Dems took over MI, MN and PA in 2020.
We do something. We vote for anti-abortion politicians.
Then you steal the elections.
Keep an eye on Brasil. They’re about to do something about it.
Dear Elwood:
It is not Republicans threatening USSC justices.
Abortion laws are determined by the individual states. You don’t like your state’s laws?
Change them.
The only thing I ever agreed with Clinton was, “Abortions should be safe and rare.”
OK, idiot, when does it begin?
SCUS sent it back to the states where it originated (read the Constitution, moron).
What Lefties want is abortion in every state. Problem is, all the blue states are hemorrhaging voters. Soon, no power.
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You are encouraging those of us who object to abortion on moral grounds to take up arms and kill doctors and nurses and pregnant mothers? You are really a clown.
According to you, sometimes abortion is murder and sometimes it isn’t. Who decides? YOUN LIE AGAIN. Where did I say that? LIAR!
It’s always immoral but sometimes necessary. Like any form of murder. Even war or self defense.
I gotta g but I hope to return to this.
L’Roy,
All I know is that if children were being systematically murdered, I (and I hope you) would storm the buildings and rescue the kids with all the fervor you guys used Jan 6 to unsuccessfully rescue tRump. Patriots are going to prison for defending tRump, yet you won’t lift a finger to stop the murder of babies????? WTF????
So, no you don’t REALLY believe abortion is murder or that these women are murderers.
Murder is sometimes necessary? Stalin and Hitler agree with you. Self-defense is immoral?
By supporting the Democrats, you support the wholesale murder of the black race.
You are nothing but a race traitor.