I think this is a fantastic idea. They should push this, and debate it in Congress. It would be an eye opener for the casual voter who’ll see that the killing of unborn children, especially black children, is the number one belief of the Democratic party. That nothing matters more to Democrats
It’s Time to Enshrine in Law Women’s Right to Choose
Texas has passed the most draconian anti-women’s rights law in the country and the Supreme Court has chosen to let it go into effect by deciding not to stop it. In doing so, the court has vindicated the hair-on-fire concerns that many Americans had when ultra-conservatives Amy Comey Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh, and Neal Gorsuch were confirmed as justices.
Women’s rights? How about the rights of the unborn, conceived because mom and dad had irresponsible sex? The same people who say women should be able to abort a human being are demanding that everyone be vaccinated be force, as well as giving up their freedoms and choices to government.
The furious and passionate dissents by the court’s three liberals — and even Chief Justice John Roberts’ dissent, though not as fervent — should be flares burning bright on the political horizon for the 2022 midterm elections.
But the dissenting justices also put in stark relief what is at stake in the upcoming midterms – the fundamental right of women to decide what happens to their bodies. It is time for Democrats to pull out all the political stops. We need to codify the rights women have under Roe v. Wade by passing the Women’s Health Protection Act. If Republicans refuse to join Democrats to pass it, then we take our argument straight to the American people in the 2022 elections. And I say: Bring. It. On.
Nearly two-thirds of the American people oppose overturning Roe v. Wade. By similar margins, a majority of Americans support keeping abortion legal in all or most cases. President Biden excoriated the extreme law, saying it “unleashes unconstitutional chaos†against women. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi also blasted it and vowed to bring legislation that protected women’s health care rights to a floor vote as soon as the House is back in session.
Definitely. Bring it on. I don’t think the resulting debate on killing off the unborn will go the way they think it will, regardless of polls. Belief in Roe v Wade doesn’t mean that Americans approve of all facets of abortion, such as late term, which is almost always done for convenience, not health. Most European nations restrict abortion to 15 weeks. They also have serious rules about the cleanliness of the abortion facilities, unlike the way Democrats treat them, which have fewer rules than a pizza shop.
Let’s have a conversation about Democrats wanting children to be able to get abortions with zero parental notification. Allowing minors to be taken across state lines by unrelated people to get an abortion. Let’s discuss Democrats wanting to use abortion as birth control.
Democrats must start pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of Republican leaders like Gov. Greg Abbott, who on one side of his mouth yelps about the importance of individual freedom and how the government has no right to tell anyone to wear a mask or get a vaccine, but on the other side he signs a cruel and abusive law that will roll back women’s rights in Texas more than a half-century.
Individual freedom is killing the unborn? That might not pan out so well, since the Constitution and Bill of Rights makes no distinction between the born and unborn, and the people thrilled to kill the unborn might just get a ruling they do not like. As you would expect, the rest of the piece is unhinged in only the way that abortion believers can be. But, yeah, go for it. The blowout in favor of Republicans in 2022 will be interesting to watch.
Abortion is legal in Israel they wrote the Bible
The Bible does not consider a fetus to be human with a soul until the first breath is taken
The penalty for causing a miscarriage is set at 2 shekels
Women who are pregnant should not be forced to give birth
The new Texas law forces females who become pregnant through rape or I cost to give birth
Are you back spreading lies about the bible Hairy?
Under divine inspiration, King David said to God: “Your eyes even saw me as an embryo.†(Psalm 139:16) God considered David to be a person even before he was born.
Additionally, God knew that he would have a special purpose for the prophet Jeremiah before Jeremiah’s birth. God said to him: “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I sanctified you. I made you a prophet to the nations.â€â€”Jeremiah 1:5.
The Bible writer Luke, a physician, used the same Greek word to describe an unborn baby as he did to describe a newborn baby.—Luke 1:41; 2:12, 16.
Psalms 13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. 14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. 15 My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. 16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.
10 From birth I was cast on you; from my mother’s womb you have been my God.
So your anti-abortion stance is based on your religious beliefs?
So your pro abortion pro genocide stance is based on Margret Sanger and Adolf Hitler?
Mass murder is never beautiful but the love of innocent life is. Don’t be ugly Elwood, be beautiful.
Should the government MANDATE giving birth ?
“Should the government MANDATE giving birth ?”
No. Should the government MANDATE allowing murder?
I’m ok with black and brown people killing their own kids. It should be legal up to age 18 (21 if that’s the drinking age).
I find it odd that so many black and brown people are white supremacists and want wjite children to dominate the world.
William Teach: That might not pan out so well, since the Constitution and Bill of Rights makes no distinction between the born and unborn
Z, the soy boy,
Your pathetic little, idiotic comment is not appropriate to any other comment stream. The old adage is children should be seen and not heard.
The people here know you are a child, not bright, and simply trying to get reference for your debate club. Go do your home work.
So you want to equate jurisdiction with being born or not born?
Sorry, that is wrong.
You got the definition of citizen down now go for “human being”. Teach was not arguing citizenship. He was arguing for personhood and humanity. You seem to be arguing for hatred and genocide.
gitarcarver: So you want to equate jurisdiction with being born or not born?
Indian tribes were not under the jurisdiction of the United States, so tribal members were not citizens until made so by statute in 1924.
gitarcarver: You got the definition of citizen down
The claim was that the U.S. Constitution did not make a distinction between the born and unborn. In fact, the U.S. Constitution defines citizenship by birth or naturalization.
The second quote should have been attributed to Kye.
Like I said, it defines citizenship but American citizenship does not define humanity.
Do you actually believe an unborn baby is not a human being? Follow the science now, Z.
As I commented to Elwood, back in 1940 Germany Jews were considered not human and millions were slaughtered. I take it you side with the Nazis that the definition of a human is whatever “the state” says it is at any given time?
BTW, since you now seem a Constitution quoter (like all fascists only when it suits you) can you point out that allusive right to abortion you Nazi killers are always talking about?
Kye: Like I said, it defines citizenship but American citizenship does not define humanity.
So you grant the point concerning the U.S. Constitution.
Abortion does not meet the legal definition of murder, no matter how many times one repeats the lie.
There’s no doubt that abortion is premeditated, therefore if it’s murder, someone (woman?, doctor? both?) should get life in prison or be put to death. Agreed?
Would you put someone to death for taking a “morning after” pill that likely blocks implantation of a multicellular embryo?
“Abortion does not meet the legal definition of murder, no matter how many times one repeats the lie.”
The legal definition of murder is: The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
Making murder lawful does not make it “not murder”, it just makes it legal. You know, like murdering Jews in 1940 Germany was made legal. But you still consider that murder, don’t you. Or are you so far gone as a Nazi even murdering millions of Jews, like you are for murdering millions of babies, is okay cause it goes with your progrom?
Why does Elwood hate babies so much he wants to murder them?
Here’s a simple thought-experiment. There is a fire at the fertility clinic. Smoke and flames are filling the building. Down one hallway, you hear the cries of a toddler. Down the other hallway, you hear the hum of the freezer unit containing a thousand embryos. There may not be time to save both. Down which hallway do you go?
Z, soy boy,
That is fairly stupid.
Now real life. Patient comes in with cardiomyopathy and is pregnant. I have to make that decision. Who lives?
david7134: cardiomyopathy and is pregnant
Someone can have peripartum cardiomyopathy and still carry to term, though a caesarean may be medically indicated. In any case, the patient or their family generally makes such decisions.
You didn’t answer the thought-experiment.
To the toddler. Wouldn’t you? Who runs to “the hum of a freezer”? But what has that to do with whether or not a unborn baby is human? That’s the question here, not fire response.
How about this. A pregnant woman is shot in the head and dies. Should any effort be made to save the baby or since the baby is not human and should he just die with her?
Or how about this. A pregnant woman is stabbed in the stomach by her estranged husband killing both her and the baby. Should the husband be charged with one or two counts of homicide?
Kye: A pregnant woman is shot in the head and dies. Should any effort be made to save the baby or since the baby is not human and should he just die with her?
A caesarean is the standard and ancient practice when the mother dies near term. Not sure why you think that is some sort of paradoxical situation.
You didn’t answer the thought-experiment.
Dear dumbass soy boy Z,
Your “thought†experiment is shit, just like you. I assure you that you have no knowledge of any medical procedure.
Doogie Hoser,
You have degenerated into a caricature of a man, much like a few other of your fellow commenters who no longer discuss issues – all id, all the time.
Jeff,
My goodness, like who here cares about your opinion. In fact, I would say most people would feel your opinion is worthless. But don’t you feel the soy boy is a pos like you.
Doogie,
You’re the biggest turd here, although you have strong competition from a couple of your brethren.
Neither hallway. that is a job for the fire department.
You would let a child die in a fire without attempting a rescue?
Would you let a child die in a womb without attempting a rescue?
I know it’s hard for fascists but get on the side of life.
Jeff,
What color?
Doogie,
A child is a child regardless of pigment, right?
Jeff,
Not according to you.
Doogie,
It’s not my fault you don’t know the definition of child.
One way to prevent abortion is for irresponsible men to stop ejaculating in vaginas!
You may not realize this but a man’s semen contains millions of spermatozoa that when squirted into a vagina swim with their tiny flagella until they merge with an ovum in the fallopian tubes.
No ejaculation in a vagina, no spermatozoa, not fertilized ovum, no abortion!!
So boyz, stop abortions by not spewing your seed in vaginas! Eazy-peazy!
Another suggestion for stopping abortions would be to enact a law that mandates vasectomies for all teenage males. Once they are mature enough to handle the responsibility of parenthood they can have their vasectomy reversed!
Finally, DNA sequence every fetus to identify the irresponsible semen donor and make them pay all expenses for forcing the woman to carry their spawn to term. Life long child care, child support, healthcare, college education etc.
The woman shouldn’t have to shoulder the entire burden.
Jeff the dumbass,
They already do that.