Yup, parts of Arizona that are pretty much hot deserts could maybe possibly we think a carbon tax could solve this become even worse
6 Arizona counties may be uninhabitable in the next 30 years due to climate change, study shows
Six of Arizona’s counties are at-risk of being uninhabitable in the near-future due to climate change, a ProPublica and Rhodium Group study found.
The study predicted which counties in the U.S. would face climate change issues to the point of having an uninhabitable climate for humans in the next 20 to 40 years by combining multiple metrics.
The Arizona counties listed, which included Pinal, Graham, Cochise, Mohave, Yuma, and Maricopa, were in the top 100 most at-risk counties in the United States. For context, there are 3,700 counties in the nation.
The study’s findings listed Pinal County in Arizona as the second most at-risk county in the United States of being uninhabitable.
And this is all from our old pal ‘climate change’!
The study projects that rising temperatures will only become more commonplace in the state, threatening the state’s agriculture production. Some Arizona counties will experience temperatures above 95 degrees for more than half the year, according to the study’s findings.
The average for Phoenix, in Maricopa County, is 87 degrees yearly. May through October are the hottest months, and already average 99F for the six month period, so, does this mean that the temps will go down due to you driving a fossil fueled vehicle and keeping the AC at 71?
Anyhow, if you’re living in what is essentially a desert area, it will get hot. And, what happens in 30 years when this study fails? Is there any punishment for that?
Teach typed: And, what happens in 30 years when this study fails? Is there any punishment for that?
Should there be punishment for speech?
Anyway, the barely habitable US Southwest is expected to be less habitable in the future.
I live in Arizona. And can tell you conclusively that a HUGE portion of Arizona is uninhabitable NOW!
Phoenix set an all time yearly heat record this year teach why do you think the earth is warming and tgat the rate of increase is now much higher than at the dawn of the Industrial Age ?
Funny-“parts of Arizona (could be) uninhabitableâ€. Back in the real world, many parts of the globe are becoming more habitable due to CO2. https://twitter.com/kenneth72712993/status/1185233063565025281?s=21
The rate of increase isn’t any higher, John. And deserts are a good subject to bring up in relation to CO2-they cool off very rapidly at night because the main green house gas, water vapor, is very low. The CO2, being well mixed as we’re told, does nothing to kept the heat. https://twitter.com/dawntj90/status/1338582316285833218?s=12
jill,
Not sure if you read the entire article from Stefan Rahmstorf, decidedly a “warmist” in your parlance.
“The reason why there have been no Heinrich events during the Holocene is self-evident: they can only occur during an ice age because they are due to instabilities in the continental ice sheets. The answer is more complex in the case of DO events. If our theory of DO events as outlined above is correct, it would be the different ocean circulation mode prevailing in the Atlantic that makes the Holocene climate so stable. This circulation mode is not right near a threshold like the circulation mode during the ice age, and it cannot be disrupted by minor disturbances. This also applies in the computerised climate model: the disturbances with which we triggered DO events under ice age conditions have no effect on the model climate under the conditions of the Holocene. Our calculations indicate that considerably greater disturbances would be needed to disrupt today’s Atlantic currents.”
So, the Earth is warming from the CO2 we have dumped into the atmosphere.
The claim by Rahmstorf was that there were several abrupt climate changes in the Holocene greater than what’s happening now. Did you somehow refute his claim (not mine)? No, you did not.
Hmm… NOAA admits abrupt climate changes happened in the past, and they don’t know why. Which is better than pretending that they do. https://twitter.com/dawntj90/status/1338597072354889732?s=21
Iraq is uninhabitable by American standards, Saudi Arabia is uninhabitable, Kuwait and Qatar and Abu Dhabi and Iran and Mali and Niger and Chad are all uninhabitable. Most of Alaska and the Yukon and Northwest Territories and Siberia are all uninhabitable. Yet somehow, some way, people have been living in all of those places, since way before central heat and air conditioning and fossil fuels.
And Saudi Arabia is mostly uninhabited. It has fewer persons than CA. Same with the rest of the nations listed. Most of Alaska, the Yukon, NW Territories and Siberia are uninhabitable and uninhabited.
And if it warms, those places would become…..more habitable.
Sure. The Phoenicians can pack up and head to Yellowknife!
Yes-and as Arrhenius said in the early 1900’s there will be crops growing in Siberia!
jill,
Did you not read the article you cited? No, you just copied someone’s tweet. Yes you did.
jill typed: The claim by Rahmstorf was that there were several abrupt climate changes in the Holocene greater than what’s happening now.
No, that’s not what Rahmstorf claimed at all. In fact he hypothesized why those abrupt changes occurred in the glacial period and NOT in the Holocene. The DO events occurred during the previous glacial period, not the Holocene. Do you not know the difference? The Holocene is the 12,000 year interglacial period marked by the relatively stable climate consistent with the development of human civilization. If you had read the excerpt from the paper you’d realize that.
Here’s the Rahmstorf article that you misinterpreted.
http://www.pik-potsdam.de/~stefan/Publications/Other/rahmstorf_abrupt_change_2004.pdf
And in case you weren’t aware, Stefan Rahmstorf is leading climate scientist working on the current period of rapid warming. We understand you only parrot pre-digested “science” from Tony Wuwt and Pierre Gosselin.
e.g., https://skepticalscience.com/foster-and-rahmstorf-measure-global-warming-signal.html
Sorry J, Of course I read the article. From his paper: “Global climate change during the last glacial (120,000-10,000 yrs before present) has experienced at least 20 abrupt…climate events.†Most scientists start the beginning of the Holocene at about 11,500 years ago. So if Rahmstorf’s climate events go back to 10,000, as stated, that would put at least some of those events in…..you guessed it, the Holocene. So in other words, the warming now is no different than then, as stated. And of course I know he’s an alarmist, that’s one of the points. So we have an alarmist stating that there’s been abrupt climate changes in the past, that have happened in the same, or lessor, time frames, i.e., CO2 isn’t needed for abrupt climate changes. You’re welcome..
Nice try, jill. Re-read it. But, but, of course he said that the current rapid warming isn’t caused by what caused the DO events.
The current rapid warming is caused by CO2.
But thanks for trying, denier.
I did re-read it, J. I said abrupt changes happened in the Holocene, as did Rahmstorf. That is true. I said today’s warming is no more rapid than other historical events, in fact according to Rahmstorf, they were allegedly more rapid back then. That is true. I said CO2 isn’t needed for rapid climate changes, which of course is what Rahmstorf’s paper said, which is true. Please show us again where you refuted anything I said. As always, good luck
You said the abrupt warming events occurred in the Holocene, jil. No, they haven’t.
jil typed: The claim by Rahmstorf was that there were several abrupt climate changes in the Holocene greater than what’s happening now.
You’re implying that the current rapid warming event is caused by the same factors that caused the DO events in the last glacial period. There is no evidence to support that claim. Your source, Professor Rahmstorf, specifically states that the characteristics of the current interglacial (Holocene) period does not support the development of DO events.
Professor Rahmstorf stated (YOUR link): “This circulation mode is not near a threshold like the circulation mode during the ice age, and it cannot be disrupted by minor disturbances. This also applies in the computerised climate model: the disturbances with which we triggered DO events under ice age conditions have no effect on the model climate under the conditions of the Holocene. Our calculations indicate that considerably greater disturbances would be needed to disrupt today’s Atlantic currents.â€
The DO events in the glacial period resulted from significant changes in the Earth’s major ocean circulations according to Rahmstorf. Those ocean circulation changes are not happening now, but the concern is that the current rapid warming can cause those changes!
Professor Rahmstorf accepts the overwhelming evidence that the current warming results from increased CO2 in the atmosphere.