If All You See…

…is a….hey, wait a minute, those wonderful trains so often use fossil fuels to move them and move fossil fuels, they should be banned!!!!!, you might just be a Warmist

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24 Responses to “If All You See…”

  1. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Li “Cindy” Yang, co-founder of the brothel near Mar-a-lago where Trump buddy Robert Kraft was busted, has a side business where she sells access to the Chinese to visit with the Trump family at Mar-a-Lago.

    There’s one scheduled for Mar 30, 2019 at Mar-a-Lago that will feature Trump’s sister, Elizabeth Trump-Grau.

    Guess who she watched the Super Bowl with? Donald Trump. She also buddies with a who’s who of FL politicians including Gov. Ron DeSantis, Sen. Rick Scott and Rep. Matt Gaetz.

    She attended the inauguration. In Dec 2017, she attended her first elite event at President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago, a poolside steak lunch.

    In September 2018, Yang received a personalized note from the president and first lady. It read: “Thank you for your friendship and dedication to our cause. Leaders like you in Florida are the key to fulfilling our bold agenda to Make America Great Again!”

    Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article227186429.html#storylink=cpy

    Cindy Yang posed with President Donald Trump at a fundraiser at Mar-a-Lago on March 2, 2018. A flier for the event advertised a “reception, photo and two seats for a dinner with President Trump” for a donation of $50,000.

    Records show Yang has donated over $50,000 to the Trump campaign and PACs.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article227186429.html#storylink=cpy

    Charming. A Chinese madam, selling sexual services to the President’s friends, is also selling access to Chinese businessmen, politicians, spies(?) and elites. Nothing to see here. MAGA.

    • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

      Irrelevant. No one cares but the nignorant one. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

    • formwiz says:

      Jessica is is sooo indignant over a woman having a legitimate business which allows people onto the Mar-A-Lago property.

      Wonder if she felt that way when Willie and the Hildabeast were selling nights in the Lincoln Bedroom.

      And, sorry, but there’s only word of her founding a chain of spas. Seems like nobody on the Left wants to get into whether she still has a stake in them. So we’ll give the lady the benefit of the doubt, as is also deserved toward the chain she founded. Turns out we only have allegations.

  2. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    One’s chance of harm from tetanus, diphtheria, measles, mumps, chickenpox, smallpox (irradicated!) is much greater than the risk of immunization. And the individual choices of guardians can be unfair to the children and community at large.

    The Supreme Court has upheld mandatory immunizations, stating: “in every well-ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand.”

    States are starting to tighten their exemption criteria.

    • formwiz says:

      Some who have actually read the First Amendment, and given it some thought, might be inclined to disagree.

      The amish and similar sects have presented a disturbing reality on this.

      Of course, Harvey gets a kick out of the idea of dragging people into government facilities against their will.

      It makes him feel like uncle Joe.

      • david7134 says:

        jeff is just trying to get a conversation started so he can call people names. The fact is that most areas without vaccines are liberal cesspits in the northwest. I once saw a kid with tetanus, worst thing I saw in 40 years of medial care, far out weighs any concerns otherwise.

        • formwiz says:

          I understand your point. 50 years ago, they dragged Amish kids into clinics to have them vaccinated and my family thought it was a good thing. Having seen the coercive nature of the Left and their political lackeys, it’s no longer as simple.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        So you’re an anti-vaxxer. Where in the 1st Amendment is immunization addressed?

        “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

        Are mandatory immunizations “prohibiting the free exercise” of religion? The Supreme Court has disagreed with your stance more than once.

        Do you also object to mandatory schooling? Mandatory stop signs? Mandatory auto insurance? Zoning laws? Mandatory emissions testing?

        • formwiz says:

          Immunization isn’t, my little ignoramus, but freedom of religion is.

          Are mandatory immunizations “prohibiting the free exercise” of religion? The Supreme Court has disagreed with your stance more than once.

          SCUS is wrong a lot. Kind of the same way they are with abortion, same sex marriage, homosexuality, Miranda.

          When they can’t twist the Constitution, they make it up.

          Do you also object to mandatory schooling? Mandatory stop signs? Mandatory auto insurance? Zoning laws? Mandatory emissions testing?

          Yes, yes, sometimes, and damned right yes.

          Mandatory schooling existed in the 17th century in this country, although efforts to stop homeschooling, etc., or religious education are not covered.

        • Kye says:

          You don’t believe in any religion other than the cult of communism. You mock, ridicule and deride any people (other than Mohammadans) who do practice religion. Yet you find it intolerable to just leave them the phuk alone. Why?

          What difference could it possibly make if some Christian sect or some small following like Amish don’t want vaccinations to your way of life? If they don’t want protection from polio who are you to force them? As long as you are vaccinated you have nothing to worry about and no business in their business.

          You always want to force somebody else to do what you want. Do you realize that’s a mental illness? Why can you not allow people to disagree with you without threatening them with force? What is it about you America haters? And why is it so important for you to be right and so unimportant for you to be good?

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Kye,

            As public health officials, physicians and even the Supreme Court point out, individuals also have obligations to the society as a whole. Can you guarantee your infected child won’t infect another?

            What about infants too young to be immunized? What about individuals who fail to develop immunity after vaccination? By having the rest of the population immunized they gain protection. Certainly this isn’t the first time you’ve heard of this. It’s not a new concept.

            Do the children have any rights, or do their rights only derive from the parents? What if a smart 12 year old wants to be vaccinated against HPV and her parents object? What if a parent’s religion doesn’t allow for medicines for infections? Would you allow the child to die a painful death for want of an antibiotic?

            Do you oppose local laws that require fences around private swimming pools? Building codes requiring smoke detectors? What if I decide to start a goat farm/abattoir in my house, and just dump the offal along the fence between me and my neighbors yard? The smell, yikes… the runoff after a rain, yikes… raccoons, opposums, crows, rats…

            What about infants too young to be immunized? What about individuals who fail to develop immunity after vaccination? By having the rest of the population immunized they gain protection. Certainly this isn’t the first time you’ve heard of this. It’s not a new concept.

            Are you familiar with smallpox? Outbreaks used to kill 100s of thousands, and left even more permanently blinded. Global vaccinations eradicated it; the last case reported was in 1977.

            Do you really believe that everyone disagreeing with you is mentally ill? At least 70% of Americans favor mandatory immunizations.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            For the record I find all religions, including Islam, to be based on myths and magic. But our Constitution protects the right to practice your religion as you see fit, as long as it doesn’t violate the rights of others.

            Should American children be forced to salute the flag or say the Pledge at school? How about be forced to recite a prayer? Do you agree that a Muslim prayer group should be allowed to use public school facilities after hours if Christian groups are allowed?

  3. formwiz says:

    For the record I find all religions, including Islam, to be based on myths and magic. But our Constitution protects the right to practice your religion as you see fit, as long as it doesn’t violate the rights of others.

    You’re a Commie, so stupidity and gullibility are all you have.

    We know there was a man called Christ, He lived, He was crucified, and He rose. The Roman records substantiate it and His resurrection was confirmed by witnesses.

    Unlike the myths and magic of global nonsense, we have real evidence.

    And the Constitution says nothing about freedom of religion as long as it doesn’t violate the rights of others. It just says freedom of religion. Hate to sound like a Lefty troll, but rerading comprehension isn’t your thing, is it?

    Should American children be forced to salute the flag or say the Pledge at school? How about be forced to recite a prayer? Do you agree that a Muslim prayer group should be allowed to use public school facilities after hours if Christian groups are allowed?<

    Last I looked, Lefties are too afraid of Moslems to forbid them anything, they just do it to Christians and Jews. It was considered good manners, if you weren’t of a given persuasion, to bow one’s head out of respect, if you didn’t want to say the prayer.

    Of course, Commies have no respect, no manners, no class.

    And pledging allegiance has nothing to do with religion.

    As public health officials, physicians and even the Supreme Court point out, individuals also have obligations to the society as a whole. Can you guarantee your infected child won’t infect another?

    What public health officials say is not law, and SCUS very often wants to advance the Lefty agenda, so what they say is often wrong.

    What about infants too young to be immunized? What about individuals who fail to develop immunity after vaccination? By having the rest of the population immunized they gain protection. Certainly this isn’t the first time you’ve heard of this. It’s not a new concept.

    Do the children have any rights, or do their rights only derive from the parents? What if a smart 12 year old wants to be vaccinated against HPV and her parents object? What if a parent’s religion doesn’t allow for medicines for infections? Would you allow the child to die a painful death for want of an antibiotic?

    Do you oppose local laws that require fences around private swimming pools? Building codes requiring smoke detectors? What if I decide to start a goat farm/abattoir in my house, and just dump the offal along the fence between me and my neighbors yard? The smell, yikes… the runoff after a rain, yikes… raccoons, opposums, crows, rats…

    What about infants too young to be immunized? What about individuals who fail to develop immunity after vaccination? By having the rest of the population immunized they gain protection. Certainly this isn’t the first time you’ve heard of this. It’s not a new concept.

    Blah, blah, blah, more Commie sophistry,. Anything to get people to do what the State says without question.

    That’s the real point, isn’t it?

    Are you familiar with smallpox? Outbreaks used to kill 100s of thousands, and left even more permanently blinded. Global vaccinations eradicated it; the last case reported was in 1977.

    Well, a lot of things were eradicated until DDT was banned in the name of global nonsense, malaria particularly. Typhus was unknown in this country until the illegals brought it in, along with measles, pertussis, rubella, rabies, hepatitis A, tuberculosis, shigellosis polio, cholera, diphtheria, polio, cholera, diphtheria, smallpox and syphilis.

    Do you think illegals should be kept out because they bring diseases we already whipped?

    And you spell eradicated with and e.

    Do you really believe that everyone disagreeing with you is mentally ill? At least 70% of Americans favor mandatory immunizations.

    No, just you. You have a very severe neurosis called Communism.

    Citation?

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      H&R Block typed: And you spell eradicated with and e.

      Just as I spelled it. And YOU should spell “an” without a “d”.

      Do you really believe that mandatory immunizations are communist? Was George Washington a communist? He had all his soldiers inoculated against smallpox. Nearly a century before the Germans Marx and Engels’ Communist Manifesto.

      H&R Block typed: Well, a lot of things were eradicated until DDT was banned in the name of global nonsense, malaria particularly.

      DDT was banned for agricultural uses by many nations in 2004, but NOT for disease vector control. It is still used for disease vector control.

      H&R Block typed: Typhus was unknown in this country until the illegals brought it in

      Typhus is still rare and is not spread person to person. The outbreak last year in LA was from fleas. There is no good evidence to support your claim.

      The same with your claims regarding:

      along with measles, pertussis, rubella, rabies, hepatitis A, tuberculosis, shigellosis, polio, cholera, diphtheria, polio, cholera, diphtheria, smallpox and syphilis.

      “Approximately 300 million legal crossings take place from Mexico into the United States annually along the 1,969-mile border, and about 15 million Americans visit Mexico each year, according to CDC.

      CDC specifically cites the possibility of the cross-border movement of “HIV, measles, pertussis, rubella, rabies, hepatitis A, influenza, tuberculosis, shigellosis, syphilis, Mycobacterium bovis infection, brucellosis, and foodborne diseases, such as infections associated with raw cheese and produce,” though vaccination has helped reduce the risk.

      So what outbreaks have been reported at the border? Not many.”

      It’s much more likely that diseases are brought in by legal travel. 66 million Americans traveled abroad in 2016, some 25 million to Mexico and back.

      • formwiz says:

        DDT was banned for agricultural uses by many nations in 2004, but NOT for disease vector control. It is still used for disease vector control.

        Sure, that’s why it came back so ferociously.

        Typhus is still rare and is not spread person to person. The outbreak last year in LA was from fleas. There is no good evidence to support your claim.

        And who, dare ask, brought the fleas? Those people are from the jungle. They do not wash.

        It’s much more likely that diseases are brought in by legal travel. 66 million Americans traveled abroad in 2016, some 25 million to Mexico and back.

        Sure. People have been going in and out of Mexico for years. My wife and I met down there and went back several times. The worst I got was a wart on my finger.

        This stuff wasn’t happening until a few years ago. Dr Evil’s “caravans” have only begun in the last few years.

        Your logic is no better than your science.

  4. Kye says:

    “Do you really believe that everyone disagreeing with you is mentally ill? At least 70% of Americans favor mandatory immunizations.”

    You always resort to your push-polls. You do realize polls ask questions loaded to receive the answer the people paying for the polls want, don’t you? I don’t give a rat’s ass of 99.9% of Americans favored mandatory immunizations it does not make it right. I’m willing to bet 70% of Americans would be in favor of a bunch of stupid nonsense. So what?

    The reason we have a Constitutional Republic is so despots like you can’t force people to do things against their better interest or judgement because you have 50.1% of the “poll”. It seems impossible for you and your kind to just leave others alone. Why is that?

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      We’re just trying to understand your position.

      We argued that failing to immunize does not just harm the immunized but also is a danger to public health, and your response is more name calling.

      Our system of government, our Constitution, our legislatures, our Presidents (all the way back to Washington) and our Supreme Court all agree that public health is a legitimate concern.

      Did you oppose the military draft? That was government forcing residents to take up arms against enemies real (WWII) or imagined (Vietnam). Over 50,000 Americans died in Vietnam.

      Don’t most laws force residents to behave a certain way?

      Anyway, the “mandates” in the US are that children must receive vaccinations to attend school. Is that inducement acceptable? Is that still communism and despotism?

      • formwiz says:

        We argued that failing to immunize does not just harm the immunized but also is a danger to public health, and your response is more name calling.

        No, he answered your little voices and their trollmasters with how you get your stats.

        Our system of government, our Constitution, our legislatures, our Presidents (all the way back to Washington) and our Supreme Court all agree that public health is a legitimate concern.

        How many coerced people to go against their religion?. The germ theory of disease didn’t start to take hold until about 130 years ago.

        Did you oppose the military draft? That was government forcing residents to take up arms against enemies real (WWII) or imagined (Vietnam). Over 50,000 Americans died in Vietnam.

        Uncle Ho wanted to take over South East Asia. He wanted to be another Stalin. Hardly an imagined foe. And at the time, most Americans thought the draft was necessary.

        Don’t most laws force residents to behave a certain way?

        No, good laws reflect public mores, but that typical Commie thinking for you to see the law that way.

        Anyway, the “mandates” in the US are that children must receive vaccinations to attend school. Is that inducement acceptable? Is that still communism and despotism?

        Last I looked, we were governed by the Constitution and laws, not “mandates”, so you might want to check on those “mandates” (unless you’re fantasizing again).

        BTW Straw man. Kye didn’t mention Communism, but that’s a lovely Freudian slip you’re wearing.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Definition of despot
      1
      a: a ruler with absolute power and authority

      b: one exercising power tyrannically : a person exercising absolute power in a brutal or oppressive way

      Kim Jong-Un is a despot. Kim Jong-Il. Kim Il-Sung. Idi Amin Dada. Lenin. Stalin. Mao. Ho Chi Minh. Saddam. Pol Pot. Tojo. Hitler. Leopold II.

      Do you foresee any Americans who are capable of the atrocities caused by these despots?

      • formwiz says:

        Well, the founder of Greenpeace pointed the finger at Occasional Cortex.

        I’d nominate Hell’s Harem.

        • formwiz says:

          PS I think Kye misspoke. He should have called you a wannabe despot, but I notice you start with the Commie despots first.

          Projection or repression?

      • Kye says:

        “Do you foresee any Americans who are capable of the atrocities caused by these despots?”

        Absolutely. Nobody knew Hitler was a Hitler or Stalin was a Stalin until they attained power. You don’t think there are people in this country who if given absolute power wouldn’t become the next? Occasional-Cotex was in the House a few weeks and declared “I’m the boss” and had decided “the rich” need their wealth stolen from them. Obama weaponized the Deep State, DoJ, IRS and FBI. If he decided to stay do you think his adoring throngs would have pulled him put of the White House?

        Yes, there are plenty of Americans capable of being just as despotic as the guys you listed. Most, but not all, are currently at home in the New Red Democrat-Communist Anti Jew Party. Those of us on the right don’t generally march in protests, throwing Molotov cocktails at cops or run through the streets smashing windows and setting cars on fire because Trump. The last time the right tried a “grass roots” movement it was the TeaParty which as everyone knows stood for Taxed Enough Already. Of course the degenerates on the left brought in faggot sex acts to show how moral they are and their propagandists in the press labeled a bunch of older taxpayers as rabid “white” racist. When the entire media refuses to do anything but Fake News it’s hard to get the message out. Even harder the the Despotic President uses the IRS to cripple the effort.

  5. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Patrick Moore was not the founder of Greenpeace, but was an early member of Greenpeace Canada.

    He’s now a businessman who works for energy, logging and mining companies. The trite criticism by an American Congressperson by a foreigner means nothing.

    • formwiz says:

      According to the Canada Free Press, he is a founder.

      He may also have been preezy of GP Canuckistan.

      And, no, it’s a criticism by someone who’s been at the forefront of the movement for better than 40 years, rather than a Commie-Come-Lately such as yourself.

      So it means a lot.

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