NY Times Seems Rather Upset Over Trump Getting Tough On Criminal Illegal Aliens

The Editorial Board of the NY Times finally chimes in on Trump’s big immigration speech, one in which he made utterly sure that no one thinks he’s backsliding in the least

Donald Trump, Deporter in Waiting

Don’t be confused by the days of mixed messaging from Donald Trump’s campaign, or the head-feint trip to Mexico, where he was polite to the president. Speaking on Wednesday in Phoenix, Mr. Trump did not retreat from, or in any way soften, his promise to make 11 million unauthorized immigrants targets for deportation. His speech — in 10 points, embellished with statistics, ad-libbed asides and audience hollering and chanting — was as clear a statement of hard-core restrictionism as any he has given.

It was a mass-deportation speech, even if he avoided that phrase. Its intent was hard to miss.

Obviously, Liberal World has a big problem with deporting people who came to this country illegally, because they want to turn them into good little wards of the state so they’ll vote Democrat. Besides, who will clean the NY Times building and mow the yards of the Editorial Board members?

Trump should have laid out how he would go after those who employ illegal aliens, with big criminal and civil penalties.

The NYTEB delves into the first 5 of Trump’s plan

Leave aside the bit about the “impenetrable” wall, an applause line for an engineering fiction. To understand what’s so appalling and frightening about Mr. Trump, focus instead on some things he could actually try to do, if America gives him the job and Congress gives the money:

1. “Under my administration, anyone who illegally crosses the border will be detained until they are removed out of our country and back to the country from which they came. And they’ll be brought great distances.”

2. “We will issue detainers for illegal immigrants who are arrested for any crime whatsoever, and they will be placed into immediate removal proceedings.”

3. “My plan also includes cooperating closely with local jurisdictions to remove criminal aliens immediately. We will restore the highly successful Secure Communities program. Good program. We will expand and revitalize the popular 287(g) partnerships.”

4. “We’re going to triple the number of ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] deportation officers. Within ICE, I am going to create a new special deportation task force focused on identifying and quickly removing the most dangerous criminal illegal immigrants. … We’re also going to hire 5,000 more Border Patrol agents.”

5. “We will immediately terminate President Obama’s two illegal executive amnesties in which he defied federal law and the Constitution to give amnesty to approximately five million illegal immigrants.”

Seems like a good plan. Overall, it still misses that the law should go heavily after those who employ illegals, as well as making sure that those on VISAs vamoose once they expire, but, the EB is obviously vexed over these 5 (there are 10 in total)

Nos. 1 and 2 are a plan to add many tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, of new prison beds, while also filling local jails to bursting. They’re a gift to the private, for-profit prison industry and will ensure that any arrests, even false ones, can be springboards to deportation.

And? What’s the problem? If they broke the law and have been caught, well, shouldn’t they be held until deported? Or, does the NYTEB simply want them immediately deported? Of course, they just want criminals released back into the population to commit more crimes. And trim their hedges.

The NYTEB also forgot to mention that much of #1 and #2 where focused on the actual hardcore criminals who are also illegals, not those who empty the trashcans at the NY Times building. Read the transcript.

For #3, they are rather upset over Trump wanting to go after sanctuary cities.

No. 4 is a gift to an ICE union that endorsed Mr. Trump, and a plan to make the most bloated federal law-enforcement bureaucracy, Homeland Security, even bigger.

Suddenly, the NYTEB has a problem with Big Government being big. Must be that pesky part of the Constitution that requires the government to protect the borders from invasion that’s giving them heartburn.

And No. 5 tells millions of immigrants — who were brought here as children, or have citizen children, and pose no threat — to be very afraid, because we will hunt you down and expel you, and we already know where you live.

It also means that people need to follow the law, which applies to those who are here illegally, something that most nations, including Mexico, do not tolerate, as well as the Executive Branch, which is rather lawless.

The entire speech, in fact, imagines that government at all levels will be used to hunt down and remove immigrants from their homes, families and jobs. Mr. Trump was describing a world of lockups and surveillance and fugitive-hunting squads, a vast system of indiscriminate catch-and-punish that works as hard to catch hotel maids and landscapers as it does gang members and terrorists.

Which is funny, because Liberals love the notion of punishing people who don’t believe in anthropogenic climate change, they love the kangaroo courts at colleges, where people can be accused of rape with little to no evidence and are not allowed to defend themselves nor hear the accusations, and they love to abuse people who have committed Wrongthink. Catching people have broken our laws, are deflating wages, committing crimes, and stealing people’s identities, causing citizens a lot of problems.

Sure, there are some good ones. Perhaps if they learned English, stopped advocating for the return of the American SW to Mexico, and stopped Demanding that we give them stuff, including citizenship, there would be more sympathy. And, they should have come to this nation the right way.

Nativists across the land were praising Mr. Trump’s immigration speech as wonderful, potent stuff. Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies, an organization that wants to restrict immigration, called it a “real-world version” of what’s “necessary to control immigration.” If you saw Mr. Trump’s speech, and you care about the country and values of tolerance and human rights and weren’t disgusted, you were either fooled, or not paying attention.

The NYTEB should try going into most countries, including Mexico, illegally, and see what happens. They can cry and scream and caterwaul all they want about just wanting to be part of that nation, that they’re good people, that they’re in danger in their home nation. They’ll still be deported. Heck, they may actually be thrown in jail for a stay.

At the end of the day, though, Liberals really do not care about the illegals who are committing crimes. They don’t care about those who are serious felons. They just want more voters.

Crossed at Right Wing News.

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18 Responses to “NY Times Seems Rather Upset Over Trump Getting Tough On Criminal Illegal Aliens”

  1. Liam Thomas says:

    I hate to break it to the right but Barak Obama has deported 3 million illegals.

    Its barely made a dent….

    This speech was nothing more then another attempt at appeasing the radical far right base of the GOP.

    A base Im no longer capable of supporting.

    They have gone off the deep end….Just as the likes of Jeffery and John have gone off the deep end on the left side of the planet.

    Their are solutions….unfortunately its the radical left and right running the funny farm now….

    And the rest of us are left wondering WTF MATE.

  2. Jeffery says:

    Der Trumpenfuhrer is only talking tough, not being tough. He is parroting current law.

  3. Dana says:

    Our host wrote:

    it still misses that the law should go heavily after those who employ illegals

    It has been a while since I did any hiring paperwork, but checking for employment eligibility at least used to consist of filling out the immigration form I-9. Here is the purpose of Form I-9:

    Form I-9 is used for verifying the identity and employment authorization of individuals hired for employment in the United States. All U.S. employers must ensure proper completion of Form I-9 for each individual they hire for employment in the United States. This includes citizens and noncitizens. Both employees and employers (or authorized representatives of the employer) must complete the form. On the form, an employee must attest to his or her employment authorization. The employee must also present his or her employer with acceptable documents evidencing identity and employment authorization. The employer must examine the employment eligibility and identity document(s) an employee presents to determine whether the document(s) reasonably appear to be genuine and to relate to the employee and record the document information on the Form I-9. The list of acceptable documents can be found on the last page of the form. Employers must retain Form I-9 for a designated period and make it available for inspection by authorized government officers.

    Emphasis mine. Note that the Form requires:

    1 – Prospective employees to present documents and attest to his eligibility for employment;
    2 – Employers must examine the presented documents to see if they “reasonably appear to be genuine”; and
    3 – Employers must retain Form I-9 on file just in case ICE decides to check them.

    Form I-9 is not filed with the government!

    There are services like E-Verify that employers can but not must use. If Mr Trump is serious about his plans, it would require making E-Verify or some other form of insuring employer compliance.

    Quite frankly, what is needed is something that most conservatives, including me, would hate: a national identity card. The infrastructure for such already exists, with state driver’s licencing bureaus, but such would not only help with reducing employers using illegal immigrant labor, but would also answer all of the left’s complaints about photographic identification being required to vote, and would serve as verification of eligibility for welfare.

    Americans aren’t used to having to carry such things, and it seems too much like “Ve need to see your papers” for our tastes, but our society has become so complex that such things might be necessary. I hate the idea, but it might be an idea that cannot be escaped.

  4. Jeffery says:

    Is our fear of undocumented immigrants so great that we’d accept national IDs to be carried at all times?

  5. Jeffery says:

    Trump is having to walk a political tightrope.

    He needs to appear to be really, really tough on Mexicans to keep his red-meat, ball-cap wearing white guys sated, but also needs to signal to potential mainstream voters that he really doesn’t mean it. He yells about walls, and rape, and murder, and that Mexicans will pay for his great wall – then at the end he describes Obama’s policy so that his hooligan supporters won’t recognize it.

    His current policy (as of today) is identical to Obama’s but sounds tougher.

  6. Dana says:

    Think back to when President Clinton announced that his lovely wife would be heading the task force to inflict upon us provide us with universal health care coverage, and how we’d all have national health insurance cards. And if we ever got to the single-payer health care system you so very much want, we’d need those cards.

    I don’t know about any of the other European countries, but I do know that Italians have to carry them, and they get checked when buying tickets to the ballet and taking the train and a bunch of other things. As an American, I was surprised, but I s’pose that I shouldn’t have been.

    And we carry those IDs as well, every time we want to drive or open a bank account or a host of other things. You are already required to have adequate identification to get a job; it’s just that now the system is open to a lot more fraud. The same is true with welfare.

    I’ve already said that I hate the idea, but eventually, the need will be inescapable.

  7. Dana says:

    Jeffrey wrote:

    Is our fear of undocumented immigrants criminals so great that we’d accept national IDs to be carried at all times?


    If someone is in the United States illegally, he is a criminal.

  8. john says:

    Liam MOST Americans want the undocumented to have a path to citizenship. Most Americans believe that the climate is changing because of man.
    Most Americans want abortion to remain legal
    Most Americans want government health care
    Some, apparently you, consider these to be ultra left policies. Well Liam you are sadly out of step with your country.

  9. john says:

    Teach does love to paint with a broad brush when he characterizes “liberals”
    That is a weak way to make a point
    Do all conservatives want to kill all those criminals in the USA that are undocumented. ?
    Are all conservatives deemed to be white supremacists?
    Why then Teach would you write that liberals really dont care about illegals who are serious felons?

  10. Liam Thomas says:

    Der Trumpenfuhrer

    No doubt you were calling Bush Hitler and Cheney Goebells. This right here is proof positive you are an extremely ultra far left whacko.

  11. Liam Thomas says:

    Liam MOST Americans want the undocumented to have a path to citizenship. I DO AS WELL.

    Most Americans believe that the climate is changing because of man. I believe the climate is changing….what percentage of that change is caused by MAN is the debate.

    Most Americans want abortion to remain legal. Abortion IS LEGAL…THE SURPREME COURT RULED IT LEGAL….No one is talking about Abortion anymore John.

    Most Americans want government health care…Most Americans are tired of NO JOBS THAT PAY FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE….RETURN 23 million high paying jobs to this country via sound economic policy and let the employer pay 99 percent of your health care premiums and I bet that ends quickly.

    Some, apparently you, consider these to be ultra left policies….Yes they are extremist positions. Anytime you let the small majority lord it over the vast minority you have failed the people you promise to protect…..America consists of ALL people….not just YOUR PARTY OR YOUR POLITICAL VIEWPOINT.

    Well Liam you are sadly out of step with your country…..No john Im a realist. Im willing to compromise…always have been….you are the one sadly out of step as you try to impose your political will on nearly 150 million Americans with your radical far left agenda that is unflexible and unbending and uncaring for anyone but your own political haks. This is not how a REPUBLIC WORKS.

  12. Liam Thomas says:

    The Spirit of the Laws

    A good read. Try it sometime.

    Im sure it would do no good since your an uber far leftist who most likely belongs to the communist party of America.

    But seriously there are many treatises that should be read and reread so that the true meaning of what it means to be an American returns to our shores and the halls of three institutions that have become corrupted by power.

  13. Hoagie says:

    The comrade wrote:

    4.Is our fear of undocumented immigrants so great that we’d accept national IDs to be carried at all times?

    Why do you translate the desire for immigrants to obey our laws as “fear”? If you find a national ID bad as I do what is your solution? I’m open.

  14. Dana says:

    Hoagie wrote:

    Why do you translate the desire for immigrants to obey our laws as “fear”? If you find a national ID bad as I do what is your solution? I’m open.

    Well, we could simply stop all Hispanic-looking people, checking them individually for legal status, but I’m sure that Jeffrey would be opposed to that!

    A counterfeit-proof national ID card would immediately solve the problem of illegal immigrants taking jobs: employers would have to be shown such identification to hire, and then a revised I-9 sent to ICE, rather than be retained at the employers.

    But, of course, the left don’t want illegals to be unable to find or keep jobs. If they couldn’t get jobs, they’d (mostly) stop coming.

  15. Hoagie says:

    But, of course, the left don’t want illegals to be unable to find or keep jobs. If they couldn’t get jobs, they’d (mostly) stop coming.

    Now Dana, you know as well as I the reason the leftists don’t want a national ID card is because then illegals couldn’t vote. Neither could legals until they’re citizens. As you know before my wife was naturalized she was offered voter registration at least four times and that is only when I was present. A person predisposed to be corrupt lying a democrat could easily have registered and been voting since 1997. And probably would have.

  16. Stosh says:

    Simple solution, require all employers to use E-Verify. Hiring an illegal criminal invader, $50,000 fine to the employer….$25,000 to the government and $25,000 to the American citizen who reports the employer to INS. Applies also to paying an employee “under the table”.

    No welfare, food stamps, rent subsidies, or medicaid to non-citizens.

    Poof, magic — no illegal alien problem.

  17. Jeffery says:

    we could simply stop all Hispanic-looking people, checking them individually for legal status

    You’re OK with harassing over 40 million Hispanic-looking citizens and legal residents so you can find 11 million here illegally?

    Do you blame the legal 40 million Hispanic-looking people for the 11 here illegally? Is harassment the price they pay for the way they look?

    Do you agree that a Hispanic-looking citizen is equal to you and dave?

  18. Jeffery says:

    The Trump Foundation illegally donated $25,000 to Pam Bondi’s AG reelection campaign in Florida, after which she declined to join the lawsuit against Trump University. Classic and genuine pay to play.

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