Ted Cruz had one of the best answers during the Tuesday night debate
(Breitbart) During the November 10 Republican presidential debate, Senator Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) suggested that reporters and news anchors who do not see illegal immigration as a threat would change their tunes if the people crossing the Rio Grande had journalism degrees and threatened to destroy the financial livelihood of those who work in the mainstream press.
He observed: “When the mainstream media covers illegal immigration they do not see it as an economic issue, but I can tell that for millions of Americans watching this [debate] at home it is a very personal economic issue.â€
He said, “I will say, the politics of it would be very, very different if a bunch of lawyers or bankers were crossing the Rio Grande. Or if a bunch of people with journalism degrees were coming over and driving down the wages in the press, then we would see stories about the economic calamity that is befalling our nation.â€
Cruz added, “And I will say for those who believe people ought to come to this country legally and [that] we should enforce the law, we’re tired of being told [that that position] is anti-immigrant.†He said “it’s offensive†to be told upholding legal immigration and enforcing the law is somehow “anti-immigrant.â€
Illegal immigrants are helping deflate wages for American citizens. They commit crimes like rape and murder. Many are involved in identity theft. By one report, illegal aliens cost the United States #113 billion per year, with an annual cost of $1,117 per legal born citizen. Roughly $52 billion is spent on education for illegals, money that could be spent for the education of US citizen children. And, let’s face it, most illegals do not pay income tax, and the few who do receive refunds to zero their costs out.
John Kasich had the worst, playing the “think of the children” card
“Think about the families; think about the children,†Mr. Kasich said. “Come on, folks, we know you can’t pick them up and ship them across the border. It’s a silly argument. It’s not an adult argument.â€
How about thinking about the children of those who are here legally, who are citizens? They come first.
On the economy, Rubio had one of the best lines
The debate was also a prime opportunity for the Republicans to distinguish themselves as economic thinkers with new ideas to create jobs or lower the national debt, $18 trillion and counting. But few of them left powerful impressions. Mr. Trump and Mr. Carson staked out their opposition to a $15 minimum wage but offered no new proposals to help poor and working-class people. Mr. Rubio agreed with them on the minimum wage but argued that higher education and vocational training must become more accessible and be aimed specifically at increasing wages.
“Welders make more money than philosophers,†Mr. Rubio said. “We need more welders and less philosophers.â€
Too many are spending tens of thousands of dollars to receive 4 year college degrees in soft disciplines, degrees akin to the mythical “basket weaving” degree. However, at least a basket weaving degree has value. You’ve learned a marketable skill. You can make very nice baskets which can be sold for money. What do people do with anything ending in “studies”? Hiring managers will see those degrees and say “humm, that looks like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Time to send out the “thank you for applying, but we’ve gone a different direction” email.” It’s nice that everyone is being pushed to get an education, but, maybe they should be pushed to learn something that will get them a job.
Jeb! was halfway decent, and the debate avoided the typical attacking each other that was featured in the previous debates. Chris Christie wisely spent quite a bit of time attacking Hillary during the undercard debate, doing himself a big favor. Overall, it was a much better debate, focused on the issues, rather than personalities and gotchas.
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Any degree ending in “studies” almost guarantees you’l be working the next 20 years at Starbucks trying to pay off your student loans.
This may be true, but Mr. Scheurer’s column didn’t supply any evidence to support that conclusion.
This report ignored the costs of deporting millions and the impacts of lost workers on GDP.
And it should be “fewer” not “less”.
As you’ve probably learned by now, philosophers make more than welders. In fact, even philosophy majors make more than welders.
This is just another part of the Republican war on education. We don’t necessarily need more welders – we need more jobs for welders. Or philosophy majors, for that matter. Actually college grads, even philosophy grads, have a lot to offer employers.
Economic data do not support the claim that employers are not hiring because of a paucity of qualified workers. They are not hiring because they do not need additional workers.
jeff,
I can get rid of all illegals in one year and I will not spend hardly money, in fact I will save money. I will not deport any significant number. It is easy, you arrest the top 10 employers of illegals and put them in jail for 20 years. Instantly, jobs gone. Then I would enforce the laws on the books to not deliver health care except to citizens. The illegals will then leave in the same manner they came, no cost. This will open up more jobs for Americans, with our real unemployment being somewhere around 15 to 20 percent any improvement would be welcomed. Now, as to availability of skilled tradesmen, it is beyond evident that we need more. If you don’t know this it is because you don’t talk with people in the middle class and employers. Forget stats, if I want to lie I will turn to stats. The fact is that we have a paucity of skilled laborers. Now on the issue of philosophers versus wielders, it is stupid to argue such a point as it is a matter of allegory.
You prefer anecdotes.
Econ 101 explains that in a tightening labor market, e.g., too few skilled laborers, the wages of said laborers will increase to attract more. Is that happening?
If it is so evident that we have a shortage of skilled workers it should be easy to supply the evidence.
dave,
You claim to be a physician. Do you check the legality of all your patients?
If a young mother brought her feverish baby to you would you refuse to treat the baby until you ascertained her status?
Should we imprison for 20 years all doctors who treat “illegals”?
Should we imprison for 20 years all doctors who treat “illegals�
Even an idiot from MO should know a physician cannot refuse emergency medical treatment to anyone.
Even an idiot from the old confederacy should know a law can be changed.
How do you propose we put employers in jail for 20 years?
So you didn’t have a clue about the law passed in 1986 and signed by Ronald Reagan.
You know that guy you claimed to have invaded Panama.
You’ve skidded off the rails. Again. Congress passed a law forcing physicians/hospitals to treat patients regardless of ability to pay. You may not know this but Congress passes laws and presidents sign them into law. Did you really not know that? In fact, they can even change previous passed laws. For example, as the right-wing solidifies their dominance in Congress they are only a Ted Cruz presidency away from being able to pass all sorts of draconian, anti-immigrant laws. Would decent Americans agree with refusing healthcare to illegal immigrants? Probably not. But the far-right are not decent Americans.
Perhaps you should discuss this with your confederate, dave the doctor, who typed:
Perhaps if you spent more time reasoning and less time name-calling you’d be more effective. But we know that’s not your strategy, is it?
Nice little strawman argument.
So when did Reagan invade Panama?
Jeff,
I must apologize for making a mistake in typing. I did not mean to type limiting health care alone, but limiting all social benefits. You are correct in that as a physician I can not turn down anyone due to Federal laws. But many countries do limit all care to people in the country illegally and in most countries you have to pony up money before anyone does anything to you, such as Japan. Now if you want these people here, lets do that, but lets make it clear that they will never vote or get welfare. That seems reasonable and would allow you to still be an exceptional moral individual and that these people can not be a burden on our failing economy and broke nation.
I’m flummoxed. What do Reagan and Panama have to do with the post or with the comments??? I’ll bite. What is the significance?
Distract, mock, ridicule, change the subject…
dave,
No harm, no foul.
I’m flummoxed.
Just reiterating your outrageous and idiotic claim that Reagan invaded Grenada AND Panama.
Oh. Carry on.
Still flummoxed I see.