Big Government: People Need A License To Showcase And Allow Pictures Of Llamas

Conservatives are often asked what our problem is with Government, usually followed by the strawman from Liberals that we want to do away with all government. First, the anarchists tend to vote Democrat. Second, we do not want to do away with government, we want to reign in the size and, more important, scope of government. Government that constantly has mission creep, that is a bit too dictatorial, too intrusive, too bossy, too ridiculous. Case in point

(AP) The llamas that became a social media sensation running around a Phoenix-area retirement enclave last month are saying goodbye to the spotlight with one last event Saturday.

Kahkneeta and Laney, whose televised dash mesmerized the Internet and Sun City residents, will likely be making their final public appearance at a Phoenix race track, according to owners Bub Bullis and Karen Freund.

Here we go

The llama drama that spawned jokes and Twitter hashtags also got the attention of the U.S. Department of Agriculture, Freund said.

A USDA official contacted them shortly after the Feb. 26 incident, saying they needed a license to showcase their llamas or even allow people to snap photos of them, the couple said. Neither was aware of such a policy. The husband and wife, who are both retired Phoenix police officers, had planned to continue offering the llamas for therapy and educational purposes.

That’s right: a member of a federal government agency actually told them that. A license. It seems like we need a license for everything these days. Part of it simply means giving government money. Did you know that the person selling you a car needs a license? They don’t have to earn it, take a test, or anything other than work for a dealership and pay a fee. Want to show your llamas to help out people? You need a license. Want to simply live as an American? Purchase health insurance Or Else.

“They just totally destroyed everything I had planned for my retirement,” Freund said. “We’ve taken them to schools before. Now they’re telling me I can’t do anything, even like a photo shoot.”

Freund said she is frustrated because the USDA won’t respond to any of her follow-up calls about the matter because everything has to be in writing. So they are giving up for now.

They say if the USDA wants to fine them, so be it. They won’t play the game anymore. Government forgets that they’re there to serve the Citizenry, not the other way around.

Crossed at Right Wing News.

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13 Responses to “Big Government: People Need A License To Showcase And Allow Pictures Of Llamas”

  1. John says:

    Anarchists are not left wing
    They are from the extreme right wing libertarian side they. Don’t just want a tiny government they want zero government
    For someone who wants the gummint out of their lives I don’t seem to recall you saying anything about the overbearing Ferguson police who issued 10s of thousands of expensive tickets to blacks for “manner of walking on the road”

  2. John says:

    Teach exactly what has the overbearing government done to you personally to make your own life unpleasant
    The right wing no longer loves the USA

  3. John says:

    Oh and the owners of those two llamas? They actually were keeping a total of nine within the city limits you seem to have left that out as well as the fact that the usda requested that any questions be submitted in writing. And they would then get a written respons
    Lamas need a license ? What next? Dogs ?

  4. John says:

    An overbearing government ? Can’t remember you complaining about stop and frisk laws used 80% on minorities do remember that you wanted voter I D as well as giving local law enforcement the right to check citizenship or visa status
    Do remember that laws against public assembly. Only with permits should be enforced
    Heard a lot about that women should be forced to give birth if they are pregnant Do remember that private property owners should be forced by the government to give up their land to Keystone CL in order to further enrich the GOP moneybags
    This is small government ?

  5. Dana says:

    Our host wrote:

    Part of it simply means giving government money.

    No, all of it simply means giving the government money. And then the government becomes self-generating, by hiring people to go around and make sure that you are giving them money, meaning that they need more money to make sure that you are giving them money, and that a lobby is created — the compliance inspectors — to make sure we keep in place the programs that require your money.

    If I go fishing on public lands, I need a fishing license; it’s s’posed to help pay for wildlife management programs and parks, doncha know. But if I go fishing on my own land, in my own waterways, why I still need a fishing license. If I want to hunt deer in the Daniel Boone National Forest, I have to have a hunting license, and pay for tags so that I don’t harvest too many deer. But if the deer come onto my land, and I want to hunt them, I still need a hunting license, even though no public lands are involved, no forest rangers have to be paid, and I never take the deer onto the public road.

  6. Anarchists are not left wing
    They are from the extreme right wing libertarian side they

    LOL. One of the funniest things you’ve written , John. Strange how these extreme right wing folks keep showing up at left side rallies and demonstrations and such and espousing much of the same ideology as Democrats.

    Then, of course, John shifts to the direct personal, followed by

    The right wing no longer loves the USA

    Funny, liberals are always yammering on about how they love the USA, they just want to change everything about it.

    As for there being 9 llamas, that has relevance how?

  7. gitarcarver says:

    Good grief john. For all of our sakes, go to WalMart or eBay and buy a clue or something.

    There are two problems with this situation. First, I remember when there were bills proposed in state legislatures preventing the photographing of farms. right wing groups created opposition to that as a clear abuse of freedoms including the freedom of expression.

    Secondly, what in the world does the USDA have to do with llamas in a state? The animals have not crossed a state line, are not being used as food, and are not a health hazard. So why is the USDA involved in this at all? This is not a Federal issue.

  8. Jeffery says:

    It sounds as if they were running a business without a business license. So, they could get one and save their retirement. Businesses also have responsibilities, including caring for the animals they use. For example, the organizations that my company uses for animal testing of drugs are regulated by the USDA. So are the animal facilities of universities. And we have to ensure to the FDA and NIH that this is so.

    In Fall of 2010, Missouri voters passed a ballot measure, Proposition B, the “Puppy Mill Cruelty Prevention Act”, which establishes minimum standards of humane care for pet breeding facilities. Missouri has more “puppy mills” than any other state. Dog breeders (and other ag interests) pressured the Republican-dominated state legislature to repeal the law. In April 2011 Proposition B was repealed and replaced with the Republican law as signed by Dem. Gov. Jay Nixon. One of the provisions that was repealed was one “requiring that cages be tall enough to allow dogs to stand up straight”.

    Is it your argument that the gov’t has no obligation in regulating businesses?

  9. Jl says:

    John, if stop and frisk is used 80% of the time on minorities as you say, can you think of any reason why they’d do that?

  10. gitarcarver says:

    It sounds as if they were running a business without a business license.

    It may be that they were running a business without a particular license, but the USDA does not issue business licenses at all.

    Furthermore, as your example illustrates, what does a Federal agency have to do with a local business license?

    Is it your argument that the gov’t has no obligation in regulating businesses?

    Is it your argument that the government should regulate pictures?

    Is it your argument that the Federal government should tell intrastate businesses what licenses they must have? What are you basing that on?

    Is it your argument that every regulation the government makes is beneficial?

  11. Jeffery says:

    If you house animals for the purpose of photographs, than yes.

    The USDA regulates the use of animals in commerce.

  12. gitarcarver says:

    The USDA regulates the use of animals in commerce.

    I keep thinking that you can’t be more ridiculously stupid, but then you keep surprising me.

    The USDA does not regulate all animals in commerce. Your example of the puppy mill bill shows that to be true. At the very most, the USDA can regulate some animals, mainly those that are part of agricultural interests. These lllamas don’t even come close to that.

    Secondly, the interests of the USDA must have a Federal interest, and animals that don’t cross state lines are not part of their purview.

    Nice try though.

  13. Jeffery says:

    fluffy,

    Secondly, the interests of the USDA must have a Federal interest, and animals that don’t cross state lines are not part of their purview.

    You are such a stupid liar. That statement is stupid and demonstrably false. No wonder you never support your bizarre statements. You just make it up. Did you just imagine that you were right? Did it seem logical or something?

    The USDA regulates each and every animal research facility regardless of the origin of the animals.

    I fully understand your disdain for facts but check this out:

    http://awic.nal.usda.gov/zoo-circus-and-marine-animals

    For example: “The Animal Welfare Act (AWA) requires people who exhibit animals to the public for compensation to be licensed with the USDA.”

    Here’s a discussion on the AWA. It’s understandable that you didn’t know about it, since it’s only been in effect for almost 50 years.

    http://awic.nal.usda.gov/government-and-professional-resources/federal-laws/animal-welfare-act

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