As Bearing Arms notes, almost no criminal is getting their gun via private sellers at gun shows. There really aren’t that many at gun shows (I’ve been to a few at the State Fairgrounds), and many times they are selling older stuff. But, could there be something more nefarious at play?
Biden Administration to close ‘gun show loophole’
The Biden Administration on Thursday announced they are closing what is often known as the “gun show loophole,” by tightening up the definition of what it means to be “engaged in the business” of selling firearms.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) has just implemented a change in the federal register language, which was previously more specific to who was selling guns, and the agency did it in accordance with the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, which was passed in 2022.
The administration rolled out the proposed rule in September 2023, taking in over 300,000 comments from the public.
Prior to the passage of the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, those “engaged in the business” of firearms dealer were required to register to become a federally licensed firearm dealer, according to the language previously used. The definition that ATF is implementing on Thursday is more specific to better regulate the market in accordance with the new federal law, according to the White House.
The rule now explicitly lists the types of commercial activities that indicate whether a person should become a federally licensed dealer and thus be required to run a background check; prevents people from evading the licensing and background check requirements by claiming that they are just selling a few guns, according to the White House; and prevents people from falsely claiming that guns are part of a personal collection and exempt a seller from running a background check on a buyer.
The thing here is, the rule may well cover a person selling their guns to people they know or others outside of a gun show. The rule covers pretty much an financial transaction if a profit is being made.
“This is going to keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers and felons. And my Administration is going to continue to do everything we possibly can to save lives,” he said. “Congress needs to finish the job and pass universal background checks legislation now.”
Look, I’ve never been against requiring a background check for any gun transfer, but, can the Biden Regime provide hard data that guns sold without a check are getting into bad people hands?
There are over 80,000 licensed gun dealers in America. The Department of Justice estimates that there are over 20,000 unlicensed sellers who are selling firearms through online advertisements, gun shows and other means, according to the White House.
Estimates? They’re passing a rule without data? Huh. Over to that Bearing Arms article
Hidden in the text was a bit that basically paved the way for bigger and more intrusive restrictions. In particular, a bit that seemingly set the stage for universal background checks via executive fiat.
How does the DOJ and other federal agencies know about a transfer unless they know who has what guns?
This is about making things more onerous for law-abiding, responsible citizens who want to buy and sell pieces of their collections to other law-abiding, responsible citizens. It’s about making it look risky for us not to go through an FFL, thus creating a paper trail that can, in time, potentially be turned into a gun registry.
That’s the only way. And criminals, thugs, and gang members will still get their guns through means like theft.
What a great idea. Only let’s make it truely universal. Background checks on every person currently residing in America. If the background check fins the person is a criminal, put them into jail. If the person is here illegally, expel them. If the person is not a criminal and is here legally, LEAVE THEM THE HECK ALONE.
Or as we call it in Virginia, the “freedom to sell my own property without government interference” loophole.
Great question. Mostly, because the federal government has been maintaining databases of purchases, in violation of the law, since the Clinton administration. The current system of background checks creates an entry that “registers” a gun with a buyer in the data bases. On top of that, Democratic party controlled states have constantly tried to establish gun registrations, in violation of the laws, that will then instantly become federally accessible and searchable. You can’t have gun confiscation without first having gun registration. The goal is gun confiscation. All guns should be in the hands of the state and servants of the state. We don’t have to guess about this, the activists come right out and say it. The only reason to have gun confiscation is that the state intends to do something that might get them shot. A disarmed population is much easier to rule by fiat. Tell me again who the Fascists are.
Hint: If you are suppressing free speech by dominating and controlling the media. If you are trying to jail your political opponents and anyone who supports them. If you are for gun control. YOU are the fascists.
keep guns out of the hands of felons? are they planning to disarm the fbi?
Democrats: Weapons of war have no place on our streets.
Also Democrats: Buying AR-15s and stockpiling ammo for every federal agency including the FBI, IRS, Archives and Library of Congress and every police department in the country.
Who is the IRS going to war against?
The IRS Commissioner:
BTW, Some big time drug dealers don’t pay all their taxes.
The Library of Congress police are part of the Capitol Police force. Sadly, in America we have to protect our resources from crazies. We never know when a violent mob will descend on a government facility! It doesn’t happen often, but it does happen.
The FBI having firearms seems to make sense.
The more conspiratorial types on the right believe/feel that the DemCom federal government is planning a Margaret Atwood style armed suppression of Constitutional rights, arming federal auditors, docents, librarians, crossing guards, clerks etc.
Upon reflection, it seems like this is another law intended to punish people for doing things retroactively. Hypothetically, an LGBTQ activist goes on another shooting spree and dies in a blaze of glory. The BATFE/FBI “trace” the gun back to it’s last lawful owner, the owner who originally bought it and went to all the trouble of submitting paperwork into the database that supposedly doesn’t exist because it is illegal. The original owner of the gun may claim they have no connection to the crime, but the FBI will prosecute them anyway for failure to register their transaction when they sold the gun, which was then sold, and then sold, and then sold to the LGBTQ activist. Just like that activist court in Minnesota prosecuted the parents of a mass shooter for manslaughter. They don’t care what teh law it. The goal is total disarmament. The process is to use the courts to terrorize average people into concluding that private gun ownership is just too legally risky to bother.
Armed citizens make terrible servants and serfs. The history of Arms control is always about the powerful oppressing the weak and ensuring the weak never get strong enough to throw off their chains. Always.
The more conspiratorial types on the right believe/feel that the DemCom federal government is planning a Margaret Atwood style armed suppression of Constitutional rights, arming federal auditors, docents, librarians, crossing guards, clerks etc.
Wolverines!!
Our Supreme Court(s) have ruled repeatedly in favor of Americans’ right to keep and bear Arms. We have allowed limits on automatic actions, shotgun barrel length, chemical, biological, nuclear weapons, grenades, bombs, some ammo rounds state by state (armor piercing, flechette, explosive rounds).
But shouldn’t we citizens have equal access to all the weapons that our oppressive government(s) use?? How can we fight back when the feds M1A2 tanks come down our street? Loudspeakers will blare, “Stay in your homes!”.
Rewatch the movie, “Outbreak” to see how they’ll try to control us. Next rewatch “Red Dawn” to see how we fight back. Wolverines!!!
The more conspiratorial types on the right believe/feel that the DemCom federal government is planning a Margaret Atwood style armed suppression of Constitutional rights, arming federal auditors, docents, librarians, crossing guards, clerks etc
Considering the news channels, reading in papers and seeing it on the Internet every 15 minutes that another federal agency is being armed or that the government is considering doing this or that to gun owners why wouldn’t we believe that the government is planning an armed suppression?
We have thousands of gun laws now the only way to stop gun violence is to eliminate all guns. You know that. You’re not that stupid are you? So what you’re saying is you’re for confiscation of all firearms so it’s not a conspiracy it’s a fact and now you’re talking about it openly.
If you want those wacky conspiracy people to stop yammering about taking away their guns, how about you stop trying to take away their guns. If you want those lunatic right wingers to stop calling you fascists, how about stop acting like fascists. If you want them to stop their disgusting conspiracies about replacement theories, how about stopping importing 10 million new people in the past 3 years. If you want the conspiracy people to STFU, stop proving them right with your every action.
“want the conspiracy people to STFU”? Good heavens, no! Keep it up. Jewish Space Lasers! Millions of fraudulent votes! Library of Congress gestapo!! Great Replacement! Deep State! Gun Grabbers! Italian satellites! Obama is a Muslim AND born in Kenya! Biden taking billions from Ukraine! FBI caused Jan 6!! Dem Pedophile Ring and Pizza! Fauci, Bleach, Vaccines, Autism, Death! 81% of US crime is blacks killing whites! Importing Mexicans! Taylor Swift and the Super Bowl! Libs of Tik Tok School Grooming lies – leading to bomb threats! Paul Pelosi’s gay lover!
You guys are a riot. At times a dangerous riot. But a riot. Do you realize how stupid you sound? Don’t ever change!
How are the gun grabbers doing? We have more guns than people!! Unless you’re hiding a felony, you should be able to go buy yourself an AR-15 with multiple high-capacity magazines; buy yourself any number of semi-auto pistols, also with high-capacity magazines. So what’s your gripe? You have to answer a few questions? The truth is that nothing will make much of a difference.
As William Teach astutely points out, this is just another attempt to create a federal gun registry!!!!
A future DemCommie administration will start confiscating your firearms!!! And the future is 2024!! That’s why “they”re pushing this through now. When “President” Harris takes the reins (reigns??) after Brandon “wins” she’ll lower the boom on our guns.
More guns, less crime! Fewer Negroes, less crime! Fewer Muslims, less crime! Fewer Hispanics, less crime! Fewer Trumps, less crime! Fewer poor people, less crime! Fewer men, less crime!! Fewer OJs, less crime!!
The Bipartisan Safer Communities Act actually had Republican support in the House and Senate.
Proudly, America has the highest homicide rate by far of any advanced nation! We’re number 1!
Six times more violent than Sweden, Jordan!!, France, Germany, Australia, etc ; ten times more violent than Indonesia (all them Muslims!!), S Korea, UAE, Switzerland, Italy etc; fifty times more murderous than Japan; even all black Ghana, Rwanda, Niger, Tanzania, Angola, Zambia have homicide rates lower than the US.
There you go Elwood. You just listed 17 countries with lower homicide rates than the US so if you’re concerned about our homicides rates you’ve got 17 choices to move to. I for one would gladly pay for your one way ticket. I would welcome you bon voyage and hope that you enjoy your new country as much as we enjoy getting rid of you here. Maybe you could hook up with one of them hot Rwanda chicks. LOL
BTW, there are a lot of reasons why those countries have lower homicide rates than we do, they’re homogeneous population being one of them in many cases. None of them have a gun show loophole, nor do they have any of the other estimated 6000 gun laws stretching from sea to shining sea that we have here in America. And with all those laws you lefties he still bitch and complain.
Most of those countries just outlawed guns. But then again they don’t have a Second Amendment as your team to quote every time you discussed this. I imagine in your mind you’re the only white person in America that should own a firearm the rest of us being white supremacists and such.
Why should I move? I love America! In fact, it’s the MAGAts that hate everything about America today except the ex-president. Why don’t YOU leave?
You have no idea about the gun laws in the other nations. BTW, France has 8% Blacks, compared to our 12%, but a homicide rate one sixth of ours. France has 4% Muslims compared to our 1%, but a homicide rate one sixth of ours!
Are you claiming our gun laws contribute to our homicide rate? Are you admitting all the so-called bans in other nations reduces their homicide rates??
Our Supreme Court has repeatedly affirmed “the right of the people to to keep and bear Arms” even adding for self defense. The Supreme Court determines the Constitutionality based on challenges to state and federal laws.
Do you believe that the “gun grabbers” will be able to repeal the 2nd Amendment?
Why should I move? I love America! In fact, it’s the MAGAts that hate everything about America today except the ex-president. Why don’t YOU leave?
I just figured you’d be happier moving since you seemed spending all your time trying to figure out how to subjugate the rest of us that don’t agree with you. And please don’t tell me what I/we hate. It’s like you quoting the Bible it has little substance to it and no knowledge behind it. And you would hate it if I leave because I save people’s lives you don’t. Once again you show how little you care about other people.
You have no idea about the gun laws in the other nations. BTW, France has 8% Blacks, compared to our 12%, but a homicide rate one sixth of ours. France has 4% Muslims compared to our 1%, but a homicide rate one sixth of ours!
I have exactly the same idea about gun laws and other nations as you do I’m quite capable of looking things up on the Internet. The ambiguous question that you ask about the percentage of blacks and homicide rate in other countries is ludicrous. It’s not blacks it’s still American blacks are groomed to be victims by you people you Democrats have been grooming them that way for hundreds of years. Once they have that victim mentality they think everybody owes them a living it creates hate and confusion which is what you guys love because it puts you in power.
Are you claiming our gun laws contribute to our homicide rate? Are you admitting all the so-called bans in other nations reduces their homicide rates??
I’m claiming that the unequal application of justice contributes to our homicide rate. I’m claiming that allowing hardened criminals out of prison contributes to our homicide rate. But I’m also well aware unlike you that there are many things that contribute to our homicide rate you’re just not willing to admit them.
If Democrat constituencies in urban areas would stop shooting each other and everyone else they can, our crime rate would be so low as to shame Europe. Hint – it’s not the middle-aged guys in cargo shorts collecting AR’s that are killing everyone.
Commenter typed: urban areas would stop shooting each other and everyone else they can, our crime rate would be so low as to shame Europe
That’s untrue. Even halved, the US homicide rate would still dwarf nearly all European rates.
The United States intentional homicide rate (2020) is 6.4 per 100,000.
Excluding Russia, European nations range from 0.5 (Italy, Switzerland) to 3.6 (Latvia – few gun restrictions and lots of Russians in the Baltics!). The mean is approximately 1.1 homicides per 100,000.
Several African nations in sub-Saharan Africa (90%+ genetically inferior and violent Blacks) have lower murder rates than the US!!
It’s possible that Americans are just naturally violent.
well, now that you mention it it is possible that black Americans are naturally violent since they contribute to about 70 to 80% of the crime when they only constitute about 14% of the population. And when you really consider that the major perpetrators of crime in the black community are males age 18 to 35 they really only constitute about 4% of our population so put that in your left wing pipe and puff it.
Brawndo,
As was pointed out previously, even eliminating black homicides leaves white American men more homicidal than European men.
The level of threats from the MAGAt tribe in America is consistent with that!!
Might Makes Right!
Don’t worry. Europe is quickly catching up to us. Plus, with the Biden Administrations new policy of “speak no evil about Democrats”, our crime rates are dropping rapidly and will soon be in negative numbers, and our inflation rate is the envy of the known universe.
I demand that we close the polling place loophole. Universal background checks to vote.
It’d be nice if the article lists these. It doesn’t.
What threats?
Right-wing rioters could attack US government facilities if/when Mr Trump is defeated next November.
Any patriotic American who genuinely believes that the election was stolen would have no choice but to take up arms against his oppressors. Don’t you agree?
Now it’s possible the Trump-generated brouhaha over the election was just the whining of a loser and his devotees went along with him even though they knew it was bullshit. If you boyz and girlz GENUINELY BELIEVED that the election was stolen you would have revolted rather than spending 4 years whining, complaining and crying. Mr Trump was the duly-elected President and he was deposed by a Deep State plot!!! And you guyz did nothing. Next, the Deep State indicted the duly-elected President multiple times on trumped up charges, and they might send him to prison! And you guyz did nothing. So… either the Trump supporters don’t believe he was mistreated and/or you’re all just gutless cowards. I happen to think you know the Stop the Steal schtick was and is a load of crap.
Now you’re whining that the State is coming for your AR-15s that you need to defend yourselves against the Deep State stealing an election!! The commies stole the last election, boyz!! Why didn’t you save Amerika then???
Abortion is baby murder. We need AR-15s to defend ourselves against tyranny. Two things you really don’t believe.
Same twaddle from Rimjob over and over again.
Nothing new here.