Colorado Supreme Court Says Trump Can’t Be On Presidential Ballot

Why do they make me defend Trump? Why do they not realize that this gives more ammunition to Trump and his die-hard supporters, plus, makes so many want to support Trump? Not that I do not want him to beat Biden like a rented mule if he is the GOP nominee, but, things like this can hurt Democrats

Colorado Supreme Court says Trump is ineligible to run again

The Colorado Supreme Court on Tuesday ruled that Donald Trump is disqualified by the Constitution from serving as president again because he stoked an insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021.

The 4-3 ruling, which rests on an interpretation of the 14th Amendment, will almost certainly force the issue to the U.S. Supreme Court to resolve whether Trump, the leading candidate for the Republican nomination, is eligible to hold future public office.

The Colorado court ruled that Trump cannot appear on the state’s presidential ballot next year, but the ruling will not take effect immediately to give Trump time to appeal.

“We do not reach these conclusions lightly,” the Colorado majority opinion reads. “We are mindful of the magnitude and weight of the questions now before us. We are likewise mindful of our solemn duty to apply the law, without fear or favor, and without being swayed by public reaction to the decisions that the law mandates we reach.”

The court, which consists entirely of Democratic appointees, is the first in the nation to side with activists and voters who have filed numerous lawsuits claiming that Trump is barred from office under the 14th Amendment’s “insurrection clause.” That clause states that anyone who “engaged in insurrection or rebellion” after taking an oath of office to support the Constitution is forbidden from holding any public office.

He has never been convicted of anything, and even 3 of the 7 Democrats on the court thought ruling that way was a Bad Idea. What to they do when people write in Trump’s name? What happens if Coloradans stream to the polls and write in his name so he gets more votes than Biden? I don’t think that will happen, Colorado is a comfortably Democrat voting state, so, this could be a way of making the Trump team waste time filing suits.

The Colorado decision is an extraordinary ruling that rests on Trump’s months-long campaign to sow doubt about the 2020 election results — even before votes were cast — and stoke disinformation about the outcome of the election even though his top advisers and government officials warned him there was no evidence of significant voter fraud.

But, it was OK when Democrats did this even before Trump won in 2016? And saying that Bush stole 2000? And would steal 2004 and then that he did steal it? Here’s the thing: it’s not just the general ballot, it’s the GOP primaries

And they may need to do so quickly. The Colorado court noted that election officials in the state must certify the primary ballot by Jan. 5, 2024 — 60 days ahead of the state’s planned Super Tuesday primary on March 5.

Will they attempt to deny the will of the voters if they write his name in? The same people who constantly say that Democracy Is In Peril?

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61 Responses to “Colorado Supreme Court Says Trump Can’t Be On Presidential Ballot”

  1. alanstorm says:

    Apparently, the CSC thought we needed an example of an ACTUAL threat to “democracy”.

  2. alanstorm says:

    See here for analysis:

  3. Dana says:

    So, the Colorado Supreme Court says that Donald Trump cannot run in a state he was never going to carry anyway. Tell me more about how it’s Mr Trump who’s the threat to democracy.

  4. drowningpuppies says:

    Trump has not been charged with engaging in insurrection or rebellion against the United States.

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  5. Genocide Joe the commie says:

    Looks to me like the Democrats have been the real threat to democracy all along. The man was neither accused of indicted for nor found guilty of insurrection and yet there he is being removed from the ballot. In other words Democrats in Colorado don’t believe that their people should have free elections. How’s that grab you Elwood? I think they just assured trump a second term.

  6. Jl says:

    What a joke-The Colorado Supreme Court put a stay on their own order, indefinitely, as long as Trump appeals to SCOTUS.

  7. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    LOL. Donnie’s hyperpartisan SCROTUS will not disallow Donnie. Period. That’s his impermeable defensive line.

    Section 3 of our 14th Amendment:

    No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

    Is the US President “an officer of the United States”? The courts say yes.

    Had then-President Trump “engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same (United States)”? That’s the question. If the Court says yes, Donnie can appeal to Congress where a 2/3rd majority of the House and Senate can permit his candidacy.

    The question as to whether the Amendment is anti-democratic is not relevant since the USA is not a Democracy but rather a Republic!!

    • James Lewis says:

      Chicken Little Man

      Trump did not engage in insurrection.

      Thus the 14th doesn’t apply.

      Like Hillary did four years before he questioned the honesty of the election. He also asked for a recount based on signs signs of ballot stuffing and various states illegally changing election laws.

      But I am please to see that you understand that we are a Republic with democratic institutions. I assume that you also support the 10th and individual states right to have their own laws re abortion.

    • Genocide Joe the commie says:

      Mr. trump has not been tried for any crime including insurrection. Therefore it is illegal to penalize him for something he has not been found guilty of. I would think as a guy that always screaming about democracy you would realize that. But I understand that democracy only counts for you not for us. Looks to me like you’re very comfortable in erasing democracy if it means you can erase trump. So you’re really a commie dictator at heart you filthy fat ugly commie dog. All you do is talk about democracy but all the time you’ve wanted to erase it just like you want to erase Christianity whiteness and America.

      Everything you’ve ever printed here and commented here has been a lie. Everything you said you believed in is a lie. Everything your party stands for is a lie the only truth here is you’re a commie and any American and a dog.

      • drowningpuppies says:

        Kinda enjoy Rimjob making a fool of himself.

        Makes the dumbass easier to mock.
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      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Genocide Joe Esq,

        You should notify the Supreme Court and let them know they don’t even need to review.

        You’ve won. I’m on your side, now! Just like you, I no longer believe in democracy. We’re a Republic!! Democracy need not apply!

    • Brother John says:

      Stick your “insurrection or rebellion” up your ass.

      If Trump supporters — the most heavily armed supporters on the planet — had been serious about what you insane morons keep accusing them of, they would STILL be in control of the US Capitol building nearly three years later.

      This is just more election meddling by Democrats, just out in front of our faces.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Suck my balls, asshole!!

        If you rebels HAD entered our Capitol Building by shooting Capitol Officers you would all be dead now.

        Wolverines!! LOL

        • Brother John says:

          The National Guard et al were told to stand down per Pelosi and Bowser. They left the Capitol “defenseless” for all practical purposes very deliberately.

          Capitol Police — to the extent we know them at all — are a bunch of trigger-happy, low-IQ diversity hires who were outnumbered by the crowd by several hundred to one.

          Yet the crowd were all unarmed.

          Your “balls” are as small as your brain. You’re a fucking coward and a liar.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Oh Brother… Do you just repeat every lie you hear from your handlers? Donald J. Trump, ex-President, is a liar. He lies about everything.

            In Trump’s words:

            “I requested … I definitely gave the number of 10,000 National Guardsmen, and [said] I think you should have 10,000 of the National Guard ready. They took that number. From what I understand, they gave it to the people at the Capitol, which is controlled by Pelosi. And I heard they rejected it because they didn’t think it would look good. So, you know, that was a big mistake.”

            “The National Guard can only be activated by the president or a governor,” Jush Huder (Georgetown) said. “In the case of D.C., it can only be mobilized by the president of the United States.”

            Rep. Liz Cheney said: “Trump gave no order to deploy the National Guard that day, and made no effort to work with the Department of Justice to coordinate and deploy law enforcement assets. But Mike Pence did each of those things.”

            LOL. So the Speaker can overrule the President? Since when?

            So the Capitol Police are a “bunch of trigger=happy, low-IQ diversity hires”, are they?

            Unarmed? The insurrectionists had stun guns, pepper spray, personal shields, baseball bats and flagpoles wielded as clubs. Did you not see any of the videos?

            Once the MAGAts turned violent, then-President Trump could have stopped the assault but chose not to. The first wave of violent rioters hit the Capitol at about 1 PM. Others came when Trump finished his “Fight Like Hell” speech a few minutes later.

            After 4 PM Maryland and Virginia governors ordered National Guard to DC. Trump tweeted a video,

            “I know your pain. I know your hurt. We love you. You’re very special. You’ve seen what happens. You’ve seen the way others are treated. … I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.”

            6:01 p.m.
            Trump tweets …

            “These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!”

            Soon the Capitol was secured, and by 8 PM VP Pence reopens the Senate to continue the certification.

    • Jl says:

      Funny-“Tump’s hyperpartisan SCOTUS…..”. Our resident drama queen is alive and well. Interesting how a court with 3 Trump nominees on it out of 9 is “Trump’s.

    • alanstorm says:

      Is the US President “an officer of the United States”? The courts say yes.

      Citation?

      I’m sure you would be perfectly fine with any state’s Supreme Court disqualifying any Democrat who claimed any election results to be false, right? Or are you simply being your usual ignorant yet opinionated self?

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Oh Stormy, bring back that sunny day!

        Fat Donnie wouldn’t be disqualified for claiming the results were false, but for taking actions to overturn the election.

        BTW, Stormy, Google “Is the President an officer of the United States”… About 752,000,000 results (0.31 seconds)

        Before and after Jan 6, and on Jan 6, President Trump participated in an insurrection or rebellion against the United States of America. After Jan 20, Trump was not President and the 14th Amendment would no longer apply to his anti-American actions after that date.

        • drowningpuppies says:

          Funny thing, Rimjob, there has never been a criminal finding that Trump engaged in any “insurrection”.

          You and other ignorant leftists made it up.

          Thanks, dumbass.
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          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            MyLilStalker exposes his ignorance once again!!

            What a dumbass. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_yahoo.gif

          • drowningpuppies says:

            How’s that, dipshit?

            Can you provide any valid citation concerning Trump’s so-called “insurrection”?

            Wonder why? Because there isn’t any.
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            Thanks again, ya dumbfuck.

            BTW, how’s the grandson doing after being fired for taking it up the ass in the Senate building? Maybe you could hire him at Galera. Seems to be a lot of buttfucking going on there.
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          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            MyLilStalker always changes the subject when he gets his butt kicked! LOL. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_yahoo.gif

    • JimS says:

      The Courts cannot find someone guilty without a trial. Since there hasn’t been one, either a trial or an insurrection, Trump’s not guilty.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Let me ask you. Do you believe/feel that VP Pence should have sent the election back to the states (with all that that implies) as then-President Trump insisted?

        Was then-President Trump justified in trying to get VP Pence to not accept the outcome of the election?

        What else was then-President Trump justified in trying to remain in office based on his claims that the election was stolen?

        New Mexico County Commissioner Couy Griffin was removed from office by a state court last year based on his participation in the January 6th insurrection following a lawsuit brought on behalf of three New Mexico residents.

        Based on the Disqualification Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, District Court Judge Francis J. Mathew removed Griffin from public office on September 6, 2022, due to his participation in the insurrection. The debarment from holding public office for insurrection is “for life”, he may never hold a public office again unless the debarment is overruled by a higher court or an Act of Congress.

        Mr Griffin HAD been convicted of trespassing related to the Jan 6 “protest”. He was not tried for “insurrection”.

  8. Professor Hale says:

    Communists have a long history of calling themselves “democratic republics” while trying to imprison political opponents and keeping them off the ballots. This is what “normal” looks like to them.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Why are Mr Trump’s best buddies overseas communist Kim Jong Un, communist Xi Jinping and former communist Vladimir Putin? All four Strongmen Dictators!!

      • Genocide Joe the commie says:

        When you make a comment as ignorant as that you show how shallow you really are. Trump ‘s best buddies are his friends and none of the people you mentioned are his friends they’re his adversaries. I think you’re adult enough to know that. Is everyone that Biden negotiates with, talks to, visits, invites to the white house his best buddy?

        There was a time I thought you were reasonably intelligent that time is long past. You are nothing but a puppet for the left you parrot everything they tell you and you do it on a continuous basis without thinking about it. You repeat the word insurrection like there actually was an insurrection. Like Republicans were marching in the streets armed and shooting everybody that they saw that didn’t have a MAGA flag. You’re a stone idiot.

        The really sad thing is you keep repeating the same nonsense over and over regardless of how many times you’re shown what the truth is. You can’t even compromise to the point saying well yeah maybe we should have looked into it. Because you’re afraid you’re a scared little twat.

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          Geno,

          The truth sounds the same pretty much every time! You MAGA Men make it up as you go!

          MAGAts are now calling for killing, beheading CO judges! Stuff their kids into trash cans!

          MAGAts post addresses of judges, prosecutors, even jurors!!

          What happened to the *GOP??

          _____________________
          *Grievance Only Party

  9. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Justice Lewis,

    insurrection – an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

    Trump DID engage in insurrection. From the moment he lost the November 2020 election, Mr Trump denied the results, accusing his opponent of widespread cheating. His associated attorneys and political supporters tried several ploys to overturn the election. They pressured state level officials to change the votes. They enlisted illegal electors. On the day and at the time Congress and VP Pence were to Constitutionally certify the election in Mr Biden’s favor, Mr Trump urged his thousands of supporters HE had encouraged to visit DC on that day, to march to the Capitol building “And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.” On Jan 6, his supporters fought like hell as commanded. The moment the violent assault on the US Capitol building, Mr Trump could have called it off, but chose to watch it instead.

    In fact, people like you believe every word Trump says, including his call to fight or lose America.

    Some 60 court cases, many adjudicated by Trump appointees, did not discover wide-spread vote fraud. All battleground states conducted forensic election audits confirming Mr Biden’s victory. And still Mr Trump lied. Lying and complaining are not illegal, but taking steps to overturn an election is insurrection.

    Amendment 14, Section 3, does not address whether the “officer” is convicted of a crime.

    Notice too, the Amendment states the insurrectionist “No person shall… hold any office…”. There is no mention of standing for election! So, insurrectionist Trump could be elected but not allowed to hold the office!!

    Anyway, relax. Trump’s Supreme Court will NOT allow him to be disqualified.

    • alanstorm says:

      Some 60 court cases, many adjudicated by Trump appointees…

      No cases were adjudicated, child. That requires a trial – none were held.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Stormy the Dumbshit,

        Wrong!! Adjudication requires only a decision, not a trial.

        Even a child knows that.

        Educate yourself.

    • Jl says:

      Oh, my-“Mr.Trump denied the results.., accusing his opponent of cheating..”
      Sorta like accusing your opponent of cheating with the fake Russian collusion ploy?

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Jl,

        Not exactly. Fat Donnie’s denials and accusations weren’t the problem (although lies and wrong), what were issues were the actions he and his surrogates took to overturn the election.

        The 2016 Trump campaign had multiple questionable contacts with the Russians. Pinedo, Gates, Manafort, Flynn, van der Swann, Papadopalous, Roger Stone, + 16 Russians.

        And although they weren’t prosecuted, Donald Trump Jr, Jared Kushner and Manafort and others met with Kremlin-linked lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya at Trump Tower to after being promised “dirt” on Ms Clinton. Trump Jr had been told that she was a “Russian government attorney” offering incriminating information on Hillary Clinton due to “its government’s support for Mr. Trump”.

  10. Jl says:

    “Colorado saves democracy by not allowing people to vote for preferred candidate”. BB

  11. Jl says:

    Not the first time for Dems interfering in an election. In 1860 the Dems kept Lincoln, the first Republican ever nominated, off the ballot in 10 slave states.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      If Mr Lincoln were alive today he would not be a MAGAt, would he?

      • Jl says:

        If Mr. Lincoln were alive today he’d be probably be trying to stop the invasion from the south- just a little further south than in his time….Sound familiar?

  12. alanstorm says:

    I see Elwood knows as much about law as he does about science. Zero DOES equal zero, after all.

    • drowningpuppies says:

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  13. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Since the Constitution is clear that any former “officer” who has engaged in insurrection against the US cannot serve in the US government again, it will be interesting to see how the “originalist” majority of the Supreme Court will justify their coming support of Trump. LOL.

    Since any non-Trump Republican candidate (except that swamy dude) is highly likely to beat the unpopular Biden, the Supreme Court would be doing the GOP a favor by disqualifying Donnie.

    • Genocide Joe the commie says:

      It’s so funny to watch you and the rest of the communists in this country keep repeating that a protest done by right wingers is an insurrection but when you burn down cities it isn’t. You do realize the civil war was an insurrection a protest even a riot is not?

      Nobody overthrew the government. Nobody tried to overthrow the government they tried to get people to change their votes. They tried to get people to look at what had happened at 2:00 in the morning after voting. You know as well as we know that you cheated and you stole an election and the only way you can keep saying this is to hide your lies. You people are despicable and you’re the most despicable of them all because you should know better.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        GenoJoe,

        Then-President Don Trump attempted to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

        If you actually believe that the election was “stolen”, then you SHOULD “fight like hell”. But you don’t. Your millions of “patriots” all have AR-15s with bump stocks. Attack the White House and drag the usurper out!

  14. Brother John says:

    Shitsucker:

    The insurrectionists had stun guns, pepper spray, personal shields, baseball bats and flagpoles wielded as clubs.

    Yeah. Unarmed. Against all those “capitol Police” whose boots you’re polishing.

    Anyway, SOMEONE had bats and pepper spray …what makes you think they were all Trump supporters? We’ve seen enough of the video now to know your bullshit spin isn’t working.

    As for believing things Trump says, well, you dipshits have had 35 years to figure it out since Rush hit the scene: he did not tell us what to think; we followed him because he said what we already knew to be true.

    And anyone who thinks Liz Cheney is in the least bit honorable or believable is a liar and a fraud.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Oh, Brother…

      SOMEONE had bats and pepper spray …what makes you think they were all Trump supporters?

      My apologies. I forgot that the MAGAts insist that the violent attackers were FBI agent provocateurs, antifa infiltrators and of course, Hunter Biden.

      You worship at the thrones of Rush and Trump… but Liz Cheney is not honorable. LOL.

      Much of what MAGATs believe to be true… ain’t.

      • Genocide Joe the commie says:

        And you believe you’re right about everything. There were agitators in the crowd everybody knows that even you. But like the fact that it was not an insurrection you will never admit it. You live in a world of lies and self deception. And it’s also a world where your fellow Americans if they don’t agree with you are insurrectionists and bad people we’re morally corrupt don’t you know. And yet we’re the one I wanna save children we’re the ones that are out there trying to save lives not you.

        Yesterday I took my girls over to the Children’s Hospital to do what we always do with the fire fighters in my area and give away 1200 toys to children. Kids suffering from all kinds of diseases but primarily cancer. I’m sure that in the nature of the holiday season you were out helping children or homeless or other unfortunates. Nah just joking you only think about yourself we all know you’re kind.

        I don’t know how a person as hateful as you are to normal Americans can’t stand living here at all. All those damn white people, Christians, Jews, and other people would disagree with you no vote for people you don’t like. People who think changing voting rules in the month of election is illegal and shouldn’t be allowed. People who think putting drop boxes for ballots that can be stuffed is wrong and shouldn’t be allowed. And when we stand there and watch people stuffing the ballots into the drop boxes we don’t deny it like you do.

        I figured out that the problem with leftists like you is he just can’t deal with the truth. Reality to you reality to you is men having babies and men and menstruating. Little children being taught about homosexuality and had and butt bang their next door neighbor and women looking up in the sky screaming at the top of their lungs because they’re frustrated that nobody understands them or loves them.

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          Geno,

          Not every political opponent is an insurrectionist, but those who tried to stop the certification of the 2020 vote ARE insurrectionists. See the difference? Trump and his followers tried to overturn the results of the election.

          we all know you’re kind

          Thank you!! I try.

          You have daughters?? Anyway, it’s great that you visit a children’s hospital each year.

      • Brother John says:

        FBI were known to be in the crowd. It’s hardly the first time the J. Edgar Hoovers pulled a stunt like that.

        If you were smart, though, and able to recognize patterns — and you’re not, your TDS makes you too fucking stupid for that — you’d recognize that since 2010, these people are the same ones who left every place they gathered to protest something cleaner when they found it.

        I’m supposed to believe that now — ONLY now — does the team that actually respects the Constitution suddenly disregard it?

        Bullshit.

        No, we do not “worship.” Worship is for God, shithead. Rush and Trump do not sit on thrones. That sort of idol worship exists on the left — the same assholes who painted murals of the dead vagrant junkie George Floyd are the same people who were creaming their jeans every time His Royal Blackness opened his filthy sewer.

  15. Jl says:

    More on the “insurrection” drama…Former Capital Police Lieutenant Taric Johnson said that he has been stating publicly that Jan. 6th wasn’t an insurrection. Three days later on Jan 9th 2021 he was suspended and ordered not to talk about his views or be terminated. His suspension lasted 17 months (perfect example of libs getting to the truth!). His latest response was in regards to a CNN interview where Vivek Ramaswamy said the same thing.

  16. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Geno,

    Not every political opponent is an insurrectionist, but those who tried to stop the certification of the 2020 vote ARE insurrectionists. See the difference? Trump and his followers tried to overturn the results of the election.

    we all know you’re kind

    Thank you!! I try.

    You have daughters?? Anyway, it’s great that you visit a children’s hospital each year.

    • Jl says:

      Sorry, J, still not true. Someone who requests more law enforcement on Jan. 6th and tells those in the crowd to protest peacefully and patriotically isn’t inciting an insurrection. Add to that the Capital guards opening the gates, no weapons on the protesters and the above Capital guard saying no insurrection and we have a Dem/ media made-up event.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Jill,

        Nice try. Except they didn’t attack the Capitol peacefully did they? Not all the Capitol officers opened gates. The protesters DID have weapons, including several with firearms.

        The Capitol officer wearing the MAGA hat said there was no insurrection. What did the 100+ injured officers say?

    • Genocide Joe the commie says:

      Trump and his followers tried to overturn the results of the election.

      no they did not you lying dog. They tried to stop the certification of an election because they truly believed and still do that the election had been stolen. They had not been given a chance to make their case they were thwarted and thrown out at every attempt.

      Trying to protest an election is not an an insurrection you lying animal bombing Fort Sumter is.

      See the difference?

      you really need to stop making false accusations about the actions of people just because you disagree with their politics. You were quiet as a church mouse when communists and fascists were burning down cities all of a sudden when people protest at the capitol you’re calling it an insurrection a virtual civil war is what you’re saying. Well it wasn’t and it wasn’t meant to be. You would think by now from commenting here you know those of us or conservatives or even trump supporters are not interested in knowing throwing the government we’re just interested in having our votes counted. That’s when we get all upset. You get upset when we try and make people identify themselves to cast a ballot we get upset when people who are legitimately identified and casting a ballot don’t get talent you see the difference idiot? And then when all the legal options are blown up in our face because we don’t have it standing we get mass mad but we didn’t get mad enough to arm ourselves and March to the capital and start machine gunning people. Remember there were only about 350 cops there OK. If they thought it was an insurrection they would have had the National Guard there. It was offered they declined. You always try and blow everything up bigger than it really is when I touch but when your people are burning down cities and murdering people by the dozens it’s a peaceful protest.

      That’s why we don’t believe anything you say because you constantly lie for no reason.

  17. Genocide Joe the commie says:

    You have daughters?? Anyway, it’s great that you visit a children’s hospital each year.

    I have no children but I do have quite a few girlfriends and it is they to who I was referring.

    However I do have a soft spot for handicapped kids and for kids who are orphaned or in other ways disadvantaged. I began doing my Children’s Hospital pilgrimage back in the old days as a firefighter when I was with one particular Firehouse it’s what we did.

    Now I’ve managed to get quite a few people doing it and doing it with me. I even have some of my neighbors joining me and my mother and father gives substantial donations as do my brothers and sisters.

    Tomorrow around dinner time I had several volunteer firemen I’ll be driving around wanna fire truck with a few other fire engines and police blasting their sirens with one of us dressed has Santa Claus I will be driving up and down the streets and waving at the children. Just to let him know Santa Claus is in town.

  18. Jl says:

    And let’s not forget in Nov. 2018 when hundreds of activists from the Sunrise movement stormed the Capital and unlawfully entered Nancy Pelosi’s office. Her response-“we welcome the presence of these activists and we strongly urge the Capital Police to allow them to continue to organize and participate in our democracy”. Nov. 13, 2018
    So we go from “participating” when it’s ok to “insurrection” when it’s not. Could it be libs have double standards..?

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