If All You See…

…is a wonderful bike offsetting the big carbon polluting golf courses, you might just be a Warmist

The blog of the day is Maggie’s Farm, with a post on freedom vs equality.

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17 Responses to “If All You See…”

  1. Kye says:

    Wow. That Freedom vs. Equality post is interesting. A lot of sides to a lot of views. That can get mighty deep and I don’t know if there is one right answer.

    I noticed as soon as one guy “Rob” mentioned he didn’t believe special civil rights for blacks would pass a popular vote two comments later started with: “What a bigoted, prejudiced rant”. Seems this isn’t the only place where a person can’t air a view without being called racist. Nobody ever wants to listen. They just scream “Racist” and close their minds because they’ve been told one thing all their life and to think about any other way actually hurts their brain.

    Back in the day when I was a young starry-eyed civil rights marcher with my church my father
    looked at me one Sunday at dinner and said: “If every white person vanished from America tomorrow who do you think would run the hospitals, the nuclear power plants, the electric grid and all those companies that make life better for everybody of every race?” I could not give the man an answer. I still can’t. White people are a valuable social, industrial and technological resource and have been getting quite a raw deal by Academics, race baiters and politicians for quite some time. After a while one gets tired of being told they suck because they are straight, white men.

    If dad were around today he would say “White Privilege” is the ability to supply all the food, medicine and other needs of the world with never a hint of gratitude.

    If you can see both the differences and the value of all men regardless of race then you don’t need to put blacks on a pedestal as victims or put whites down as oppressors. Nobody’s ancestry is lily clean, not whites, blacks, Asians, or any other ethnicity.

    One of dads favorite sayings was: “It’s nice to be important but more important to be nice”.
    Dad was a nice guy.

  2. Professor Hale says:

    “Rob” was evidently illiterate. America, through their representatives in Congress, did in fact pass special civil rights for blacks in 1964 and in subsequent later additions. While that wasn’t a popular vote, there is no doubt that a supermajority of Americans today would endorse the civil rights act of 1964, without even reading it. Which special civil rights did blacks get in 1964? The right to be immune from White people’s freedom of association and the right to regulate private businesses on private property for their own benefit without regard to the wishes of the owner. Finally, they also got the right to interfere in private employment contracts that they were not a party to.

    • Kye says:

      I wasn’t trying to argue the Civil Rights act, Professor. I was trying to point out that any time a person takes a contrarian point of view to the prevailing orthodoxy of ANY social construct about blacks the opposition immediately leaps to name calling. Then, as if on cue you disagreed with Ron and instantly dubbed him “evidently illiterate” which of course is irrational since he wrote the comment proving his literacy. Just saying “I think Ron is wrong” isn’t good enough to virtue signal the deep moral indignation that another person my have a differing opinion about civil rights.

      • Perhaps I was being too esoteric. I should have said, “historically ignorant”. Rob commented that Americans wouldn’t vote for special civil rights and my response was, “we already did”. Thank you for pointing that out. I dont wish to be needlessly unintelligible.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      pH,

      Private businesses aren’t so private. Should businesses be licensed by the government(s)? If so, they have to follow the rules. If you think that businesses should be exempt from any and all government regulations, it needs to accomplished democratically, at the ballot box.

      No one forces incorporation on businesses. Incorporation gives businesses a set of government sanctioned advantages allowing significant outside investments to grow the business. Incorporation limits the liabilities of corporate officers and investors.

      You and Kye aren’t advocating the businesses be able to discriminate against “certain” customers are you? Or that businesses only hire “certain” employees? That seems like a road to a very unequal society.

      What if a company develops a medicine that stops lung cancer in its tracks? Should the Board be able to only offer that medicine to non-Christians?

      It’s a truism that the dominant group feels discriminated against when the dominated group demands equal rights.

      • Professor Hale says:

        I’m still not interested in anything you have to say on any subject. Address your comments elsewhere.

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          I’ll address my comments as I please, thank you. As always, you can choose to respond, or not. I don’t care either way. My questions are intended to those that believe as you to think.

          You will continue to make statements, I’ll continue to critique them as I please.

          • formwiz says:

            So we all have the right to tell you to STFU and vote you off the island without you whining to Teach about your poor wittle baby feewings being hurt.

            Good to know.

          • david7134 says:

            Jeff,
            The prof has comments that we would all like to read and share opinions. You are here only as a troll. You lie, call people names and generally make the blogging experience very repulsive. You have not delivered a single comment that is truthful in it entirety nor do you present a coherent liberal aspect that we could not get from a headline. You should honor the profs request to leave him alone.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            david,

            You, formwiz and drowningpuppies have nothing to say that interests me. Please direct your comments elsewhere!

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          • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

            Waaahhh!

            https://tinyurl.com/o8hqyrn

            Now go whine to Teach. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

      • formwiz says:

        Which businesses are licensed by the Feds, pray tell?

        Some are licensed by the states in the interests of health and safety, but the Feds have no authority to license most businesses, so you are lying.

        Yet again.

        Incorporation gives businesses a set of government sanctioned advantages allowing significant outside investments to grow the business. Incorporation limits the liabilities of corporate officers and investors.

        Are you really this stupid?

        First, businesses are incorporated by states and the criteria differs from state to state.

        Second, Dartmouth College v. Woodward established that government cannot change the terms of a contract.

        What if a company develops a medicine that stops lung cancer in its tracks? Should the Board be able to only offer that medicine to non-Christians?

        Financially foolish, but they do have that right. There are all types of businesses set up to cater to one particular group.

    • formwiz says:

      Have to disagree.

      They didn’t pass special rights, but ensured the Constitutional rights of blacks were upheld the same as anyone else’s.

      What you’re talking about came through court decisions and later laws reflecting Lyndon Johnson’s view, “I’ll have them niggers voting Democratic for two hundred years”.

      • Kye says:

        formwiz, that’s my fault. I inadvertently put the word “special” before rights. It was not there in the original statement. Plus, in my mind I was thinking not only the Civil Rights Act but the series of Executive orders known in total as “Affirmative Action”. Those EO’s bestowed special rights (since then dramatically expanded) on minorities which ironically ended up also including women who are a minority.

        When the Civil Rights Act was passed I thought all the race crap would end. You know, see a person for his character not his color. Then AA re-institutionalized raced based thinking with the roles reversed. Leftists, race hustlers and bigots thought that was good. Real life Civil Rights marchers like myself thought we’d been f***ed. We had just traded one form of racial discrimination for another. That is not Color Blind.

        • formwiz says:

          Affirmative Action, otherwise known as the Philadelphia Plan, was intended to get people back to work. I don’t believe it was ever an EO, but something that got institutionalized and abused by people who saw they could create their own personal underclass subservient to and owned by the Democrat party.

          A lot of these set-asides, as they became known, were the result of court decisions from the usual Demo appointees.

  3. Kye says:

    I’m sure you all realize that’s supposed to read “….women who are a majority”. Sorry.

  4. formwiz says:

    david,

    You, formwiz and drowningpuppies have nothing to say that interests me. Please direct your comments elsewhere!

    Up yours.

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