If All You See…

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31 Responses to “If All You See…”

  1. Bill Bear says:

    16 Things You Must Believe to Buy the ‘Witch Hunt’ Russia Narrative


    July 13, 2017

    One column cannot accommodate the list of things you must believe if you trust that Donald Trump is truly the victim of a baseless witch hunt. Consider this a mere stab.

    That Donald Jr., Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner did nothing wrong by meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian offering dirt on Clinton. The emails requesting the meeting specifically mentioned a “Russian government attorney” and added that the requested meeting concerned “very high level and sensitive information” that “is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” That doesn’t prove a willingness to collude.
    That concern about Paul Manafort’s extensive links with Putin’s former puppet in Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, including at least $12.7 million in payments, is, to quote Manafort’s words, “silly and nonsensical.”
    That Jared Kushner’s attempt, during the transition, to secure a back channel with the Russian government using their secure communications equipment in the Russian embassy was not alarming/inexplicable.
    That Donald Trump’s stubborn refusal ever to breathe a critical word about Vladimir Putin, even as he has freely criticized U.S. allies, or acknowledge Russian meddling in our election, is not strange.
    That Michael Flynn’s firing after less than a month on the job was really just because he had misled Mike Pence.
    That Donald Trump’s pressure on Comey to go soft on Flynn was purely a measure of loyalty/friendship from a person who has rarely shown those traits before.
    That James Comey’s firing, at least according to evolving White House accounts, was due to his mishandling of the Hillary file, no wait, due to poor management of the FBI, which was suffering from low morale, um, no because of two factual errors Comey made in congressional testimony. Finally, that it was over the “Russia thing” but this only shows that Trump was an innocent man frustrated by Comey’s unwillingness to clear him publicly.
    That it was irrelevant that Trump told the Russian ambassador and foreign minister in the Oval Office the day after Comey’s sacking that the FBI director was a “nut job” whose removal had relieved “great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”
    It’s pure coincidence that one of the only foreign-policy advisers on the Trump campaign was Carter Page, who was under FBI investigation for Russia ties. In Moscow, he gave a speech denouncing U.S. policy, saying, “Washington and other Western capitals have impeded potential progress through their often hypocritical focus on ideas such as democratization, inequality, corruption, and regime change.” Anti-anti-corruption isn’t disturbing.
    That White House objections to sanctions against Russia, which passed the Senate 98–2, are purely procedural.
    That former Manafort partner and Trump surrogate Roger Stone, who boasted about links to WikiLeaks founder and America hater Julian Assange, and accurately predicted in August 2016 that John Podesta would be next “in the barrel,” was just lucky.
    That statements by Eric and Donald Jr. about Russian financial ties are not revealing. Golf writer James Dodson quoted Eric as explaining in 2014 how the Trump organization was able to get financing for various golf courses even after the Great Recession. “Well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia. We’ve got some guys that really, really love golf, and they’re really invested in our programs. We just go there all the time.” Donald Trump Jr., who also traveled to Russia frequently, spoke at a 2008 real-estate conference and noted that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.” When Donald Trump stated that “I have zero investments in Russia,” he did not say that Russia had zero investments in him, but we should believe his other claim that “I have nothing to do with Russia.”
    That Mr. Trump’s failure to release his tax returns, despite repeated promises to do so, is because he is under audit.
    That it’s unremarkable that presidential spokeswoman Sarah Sanders refuses to say whether Russia is an adversary, a friend, or a nation about whom we should be wary.
    That Donald Trump is the first president since 1949 to cast doubt on America’s commitment to NATO, but this is overdue and good for the U.S.
    That Donald Trump’s obsessive attacks on “fake news” are not an attempt to inoculate himself against future revelations but just good old-fashioned, right-wing hatred of liberals.

    • formwiz says:

      NRO’s been NeverTrumper for several years now.

      You might as well quote Shepard Smith.

      Or Bill Kristol.

      • Bill Bear says:

        Sadly, formwiz is yet again intent on advertising his rampant intellectual cowardice. He is afraid to discuss the facts, so he makes an irrelevant remark and runs away.

        • formwiz says:

          When you finally come up with some, give us a call.

          • Bill Bear says:

            Everything in the NRO article is a fact.

            formwiz cannot find the courage to discuss those facts.

            Liars are invariably cowards, as well.

    • Kye says:

      If this is not meant to be a hilarious joke then the author is batshit crazy. Whether or not one believes the Mueller investigation (based on a lie to begin with) was a “witch hunt” or not has nothing to do with the fact it’s over and they have NOTHING! Get over it girls.

      I guess this means after three years of RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA now we can look forward to three years of MUELLER, MUELLER, MUELLER. That should take the little girls into Trumps second term and put them in complete beak down mode. Poor little bitches need a tampon and a safe space.

      • Bill Bear says:

        Kye, it seems, also lacks the intellectual courage to discuss the facts.

        This surprises no one.

      • Bill Bear says:

        The following email was sent to Donald Trump Jr:

        === begin quote ===

        On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

        Good morning

        Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.

        The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

        This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump – helped along by Aras and Emin.

        What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?

        I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.


        Rob Goldstone

        === end quote ===


        Direct question to Kye:

        What was Donald Trump Jr’s exact, verbatim reply?

        I await further confirmation of Kye’s utter, craven cowardice. Like all blowhard rage-addicted bullies, he turns tail and scampers into the underbrush when directly confronted.

  2. Bill Bear says:

    “Whether or not one believes the Mueller investigation (based on a lie to begin with)”

    What lie was that? let us see if Kye can give an honest, fact-based account of the origin of the Special Counsel’s investigation.

    “was a “witch hunt” or not has nothing to do with the fact it’s over and they have NOTHING!”


    We can’t know that yet, of course, since the actual report has yet to be released.

    And even Trump’s own hand-picked consigliere William Barr has stated that the report does not exonerate Trump of all crimes.

    “Poor little bitches need a tampon”

    And there’s that sad strain of misogyny that runs throughout the extremist right wing of American politics.

    • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

      One does not need to be exonerated from false and malicious claims.

      To the woods… dipshit. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

    • formwiz says:

      The lie of Trump collusion.

      And we do know since Mule Ears admitted there was no there there.

      Well, you did squeal like Chrissy Blase when Brother Bret was confirmed.

      • Bill Bear says:

        “The lie of Trump collusion.”

        OK… so now we know that formwiz cannot cite any specific statement made by any specific individual that he refers to as the purported “lie”.

        Sadly, formwiz is so incompetent at discussing historical fact that he is incapable even of recognizing his own incompetence. Page Dr. Dunning and Dr. Kruger… white courtesy phone please…

        • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

          No collusion, no conspiracy.
          Divert much, nignorant?
          Loser. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

        • Kye says:

          “OK… so now we know that formwiz cannot cite any specific statement made by any specific individual that he refers to as the purported “lie”.”

          You’re kidding, right? Start with the New York Times and then every leftist on CNNMSNBCABCCBSABC, the Washington Post, almost every idiot in Hollywood and every dumbass DemCom from Maxine Waters to Nazi Paloosa. They’ve been screaming “collusion” for three fuc*in’ years dumbass. Are you really that stupid? Are you stating YOU haven’t heard a SPECIFIC statement made by a SPECIFIC individual who accused Trump of collusion? Really? I think you’re lying again!

          You and empty minded leftists like you have been fed lies by corrupt politicians and media for three years. Wake up. They used you and lied to you. They raped your mind to the point where you can no longer think. Now it’s time to hold all these fakes, frauds, liars and traitors accountable. Biggest abuse of power in American history.

          • Bill Bear says:

            “Are you stating YOU haven’t heard a SPECIFIC statement made by a SPECIFIC individual who accused Trump of collusion? Really?”

            Nope. I would suggest that Kye start here:


            My original challenge to Kye was that he attempt to give an honest, fact-based account of the origin of the Special Counsel’s investigation.

            Kye has failed to do so. Whether this is because he did not understand what I challenged him to do, or because he simply lacks the intellectual skills to attempt an answer, remains a subject of speculation.

          • Bill Bear says:

            If reading the article I linked in my previous comment is too daunting, this video might help Kye. It has lots of neat pictures.


        • formwiz says:

          Well, no one has found any evidence yet.

          I know that matters not to a Chekist such as your self, you would have loved to stand in the Lubyanka next to Derzhinsky or Beria, but here, we need proof according to the Rules of Evidence.

          Clearly why you can’t see straight enough to at least posit an interesting lie.

          That’s what Liars do.

  3. Kye says:

    Eat me Traitor Bill!

    MAGA, Trump 2020, molon labe, Winning!

    • Bill Bear says:

      Well, there’s our answer. Kye is, in fact, intellectually incapable of honest, fact-based discussion.

      Good to know.

      • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

        Get back to us when you have some facts.
        So far all you offer is nignorant dubiety.

      • formwiz says:

        Whiny The Poo is flaoting in the current flowing past Aswan, but she complains about intellectually incapable of honest, fact-based discussion.

        As if she is capable of it.

      • Kye says:

        You know the facts, idiot. They’ve been all over the TV, the news and the net all weekend. But still you persist being a dick. So I’ll treat you like one.

        • Bill Bear says:

          As is usual with far right rage addicts like Kye, the point is not to have a rational, adult, fact-based discussion. The point is to be as nasty as possible as often as possible to as many people as possible.

          One can only hope that Kye and his physician are keeping a close eye on his blood pressure. It would be a shame for his wife to be widowed simply because Kye is incapable of letting go of his mindless anger.

          • formwiz says:

            Little idiot spews insults whether you play her games or not and most of us refuse to play the games.

            And probably would think it an accomplishment if Kye had a stroke.

            All the Lefties have is hate.

        • david7134 says:

          You do realize that you will never be able to educate either jeff or this jerk Bill, who post large volumes of meaningless crap. So, please shut them out. I like reading your comments, but the trolls are killing the site. Let it go, they likely are getting a sexual rush by making you upset.

          • Kye says:

            david7134, as much as I agree with you it breaks my heart to see such anti American ignorance from my fellow citizens. The hate for and contempt for people who hold differing opinions from radical leftists makes compromise impossible. That’s sad and at the beginning I was trying to jar Bill and Elwood to think outside their little bubble and perhaps see things from another point of view. I dis not expect them to immediately agree with that view, just consider it. Sadly I found them incapable or unwilling to budge even a bit. They are stuck in their ignorance and hate and constantly project their own shortcomings on others. Again sad.

            Now I just try and press Bills buttons because he’s such a douche. I don’t think if we ignore them they’ll go away. What’s more, I’m not sure we can ignore them since they’re the “token leftists”. I’d love to have a few “liberals” not “leftists’ here but it seems all the real liberals joined our team. The leftists drove them over. They used to ply honest disagreement now the radical left just calls names and does their best to insult us so why not insult them back. It is quite easy since they’re ignorant idiots.

          • david7134 says:

            I understand your pain. But you have to understand that the guy is likely psychotic. You can not get through to him. I’m some days he likely thinks he is on the Johnny Carson show or that someone is shooting lasers at him. No same person accumulates list like he does. Jeff is just about as sick.

          • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

            One and the same.
            Probably using the Galera VPN.

  4. formwiz says:

    If reading the article I linked in my previous comment is too daunting, this video might help Kye. It has lots of neat pictures.

    If anyone has trouble comprehending an article, it is Whiny The Poo.

    She just copies and pastes some screed blindly

  5. Bill Bear says:

    david7134 wrote:

    “No same person accumulates list like he does.”

    Uh huh.

    I’m sure that david will find something here that can help him: https://www.eslfast.com/

    • formwiz says:

      How many people could go 16 hrs a day typing this stuff that somebody (trollmassas, doubtless) send him to put out when the cause is obviously lost?

      Whatever interest there was among real people about Mule Ears is dead now, no matter how much the Lefties wish it was otherwise. Same with global bull. They push the poor illegals, so that’s dead as well and gun control have proven to be a real loser.

      They get beaten over the head and they still refuse to see it.

      That phony Einstein line they quote, “Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results”, applies to them and substituting stupidity works as well.

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