Surprise: FBI Database Missing Millions Of Records For Gun Purchases

According to the Democrat gun grabbers, we’re supposed to pass a whole raft of new “gun control” laws in order to stop gun violence which the Government will administer, yet, they can’t deal with the ones currently on the books

FBI database for gun buyers missing millions of records

The FBI’s background-check system is missing millions of records of criminal convictions, mental illness diagnoses and other flags that would keep guns out of potentially dangerous hands, a gap that contributed to the shooting deaths of 26 people in a Texas church this week.

Experts who study the data say government agencies responsible for maintaining such records have long failed to forward them into federal databases used for gun background checks — systemic breakdowns that have lingered for decades as officials decided they were too costly and time-consuming to fix. (snip)

The FBI said it doesn’t know the scope of the problem, but the National Rifle Association says about 7 million records are absent from the system, based on a 2013 report by the nonprofit National Consortium for Justice Information and Statistics. That report determined that “at least 25% of felony convictions . . . are not available” to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System maintained by the FBI.

Of course, some Big Government supporters claim the NRA figure is inflated, because of course they do.

The government funded a four-year effort beginning in 2008 to try to estimate how many records existed of people who should be barred under federal law from buying a gun but aren’t flagged in the FBI system. That effort was abandoned in 2012 because of the cost.

That’s weird: suddenly, government is concerned about cost when it’s a study that would show that government is incompetent.

The National Rifle Association has complained that the federal database is inadequate. The powerful gun rights lobbying group opposes calls for more restrictions on gun buying, arguing that the government should focus instead on making its current background-check system fully functional.

“The shortcomings of the system have been identified, there just seems to be a lack of will to address them,’’ said Louis Dekmar, president of the International Association of Chiefs of Police.

If this system is not being used correctly, why would new gun grabbing laws work?

A large number of people convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence — who also are prohibited from buying guns — are absent from the FBI database as well, particularly in states that don’t require fingerprints for such convictions, according to people involved in the work.

The article is unclear as to whether this applies to the Air Force, the military in general, or all. As to the first two, let’s remember that it has been shown that both have been seriously negligent in reporting the information to the firearms database.

Moreover, many convicted domestic abusers who buy guns do so not through a gun store, as Kelley did, but online or from gun shows, advocates say. In the case of such private sales, sellers are not obligated to run buyers’ names through the federal database.

Here we go again. The vast majority of online and gun show purchases are made from sellers who a required to do a background check, and do so.

“We know when these records are in the system that it’s effective,” said Monica McLaughlin, director of public policy for the National Network to End Domestic Violence. “It bars batterers from obtaining weapons. It’s a really effective tool that exists in federal law that we have created, but compliance is inconsistent at best and incredibly lackluster.”

When the records make it to the system. But, none of this matters: gun grabbers want to grab guns.

Crossed at Right Wing News.

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13 Responses to “Surprise: FBI Database Missing Millions Of Records For Gun Purchases”

  1. Dana says:

    How is it, I wonder, that huge companies can manage to keep such exacting records on all of their customers?

    When I listed my house in the Keystone State for sale, within less than a month, my mortgage company called me, having noticed that this had happened, trying to sell me another mortgage loan on my new abode, wherever that was. I was somewhat pissed, that they were tracking my home sale, but, despite that, remained polite about it — and I’m not always polite when people ask nosy questions or have been tracking my purchases — and said no, thank you, but we had bought our farm in Kentucky outright, no mortgage.

    It’s almost as though a company motivated by potential profit is more efficient than the government.

    The National Rifle Association has complained that the federal database is inadequate. The powerful gun rights lobbying group opposes calls for more restrictions on gun buying, arguing that the government should focus instead on making its current background-check system fully functional.

    “The shortcomings of the system have been identified, there just seems to be a lack of will to address them,” said Louis Dekmar, president of the International Association of Chiefs of Police.

    Well, why would this be a surprise? Government employees are notoriously difficult to fire, so why should it be surprising that doing something which would just create more work for them frequently doesn’t get done?

    The federal government is requiring the states to change their driver’s licensed to be compliant with “Real ID,” something several states, including both Kentucky and Pennsylvania, have resisted due to the costs involved. It’s easy for the feds to require other people to do things, isn’t it? The ‘incentive’ the Feds have provided is that citizens of states which do not have Real ID compliant driver’s licenses will not be able to board an aircraft on just their driver’s licenses, which means that their people will demand compliant IDs. (Your passport or military ID is Real ID compliant, so you can get around the system that way.) But states which are not diligent about reporting convictions to the FBI don’t have people personally inconvenienced.

    • david7134 says:

      I replaced the filter on an ice machine last month and immediately started receiving internet ads about the filter, the machine is not attached to the internet to my knowledge.

      Then 35 years ago I applied for life insurance, I indicated I did not scuba dive in the questions. The agent called with a few days to ask why I had checked this as I was a diver. That was something I had done 10 years before and gave up, yet in an age when we did not have computer records as extensive as now, they knew everything about me.

  2. gitarcarver says:

    How is it, I wonder, that huge companies can manage to keep such exacting records on all of their customers?

    As well as face heavy fines and penalties for not complying with onerous record keeping provisions.

    And then there is this:

    WASHINGTON — An F.B.I. counterterrorism supervisor is under internal investigation after a woman stole his gun following a night of heavy drinking in a North Carolina hotel, according to documents and government officials.

    In July, Robert Manson, a unit chief in the F.B.I.’s international terrorism section, had his Glock .40-caliber handgun, a $6,000 Rolex watch and $60 in cash stolen from his room at the Westin hotel in Charlotte, N.C., according to a police report.

    The alleged criminal is what is being called an “exotic dancer.”

    Oy vey.

  3. Some Hillbilly in St Louis says:

    It’s almost as if nepotism, affirmative action, corruption, and the lack of accountability guarantees a poor work product from all levels of the government…

  4. Jeffery says:

    The conservative government is not motivated to make the firearm registration system work any more than the conservative government wants the ACA to work. If tRump Industries made a dollar for every transaction the system would work.

    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    The government has been lax in living up to our 2nd Amendment by not ensuring the people have access to the arms needed to ensure the security of the states, united or not. To defend our states against aggression, we need access to real weapons and systems, not the pea shooters “allowed” by our so-called “Supreme” Court. Selective fire auto/semi auto weapons, RPGs, grenades, etc. The “people” are unarmed compared to the potential invaders and we’ve been bought off with a few fake army-man AR-15 look alikes.

    • gitarcarver says:

      Conservatives have been screaming to fix the NICS tor years Jeffery. The liberal argument is to simply respond “we need more laws.”

      The fact that the NICS is a systemic problem, much like that of the VA. It has crossed all administrations and political leanings.

  5. Jeffery says:

    Our problem is too few firearms, not too many.

    Some bleeding hearts will whine that giving lunatics even more firepower will INCREASE the mass shootings, leading to more dead, defenseless children. But only if the children are indeed, defenseless! The solution if obvious – arm and train the children and the teachers. Nothing in the 2nd Amendment limits the age of the armed people or what they arm themselves with.

    For mass shooters hiding in a hotel like in Las Vegas, a few concertgoers with RPGs would have taken him out tout de suite!

    • gitarcarver says:

      so you would be for teachers and LEO’s being armed in schools Jeffery? If you are for protecting kids, wouldn’t that be one step in adding protection for kids?

      • Jeffery says:

        Yes, as long as the children are also armed. We feel all Americans should have equal access to all available weaponry. Our strict constructionist reading of Our Beloved Constitution demands that “the people” of our citizen militias be well-regulated (well armed).

        If you’re not familiar with our 2nd Amendment:

        A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

        The courts consistently ignore the words “shall not be infringed” and “militia”. They limit our access to machine guns, rocket launchers and hand grenades, and the government unConstitutionally limits and monitors our assembly into well regulated militias to protect the security of our free state.

        Nowhere does the 2nd Amendment limit the type of arms, nor the age or status of “the people”. It’s an affront to our freedoms when the government (school districts) keep protections out of the hands of our children. The place to start is in private Christian schools, less under the jackboots of our government oppressors, and more amenable to an American movement of true Constitutional freedoms. Send your child to school armed. Fight the power!

  6. Jeffery says:

    Yes. Unless you can point to a Constitutional reason to prevent it.

    What is your reasoning to deprive them of their rights? And be careful, this could be a trap.

  7. gitarcarver says:

    Yes. Unless you can point to a Constitutional reason to prevent it.

    Sorry Jeffery, I am not playing a game of hypotheticals where you don’t even believe in what you are proposing.

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