Swedish Aid Chief: We Can Totally Learn From Indigenous People On ‘Climate Change’ To Live Like It’s 1499 Or Something

It’s funny how people who benefit heavily from a modern lifestyle, made possible in part by fossil fuels, want to roll back society (for Other People, of course)

Learn from indigenous people to fight climate change, says Swedish aid chief

With generations of experience conserving land and forests, indigenous people’s knowledge about climate change could help inform decisions at next month’s United Nations climate talks, but their environmental wisdom is often ignored.

The head of Sweden’s international development agency said that must change – and climate change negotiators should learn from indigenous people.

“Indigenous people often live and work from forests, land and water in different ways and they use them in a sustainable way because they need to survive,” Carin Jämtin told the Thomson Reuters Foundation.

“That’s why we must use the knowledge of those who know how to sustainably use nature,” she said during a conference on indigenous land rights in Stockholm this week.

Besides being incredibly patronizing, it’s typical climastupidity. Ms. Jamtin is basically positioning indigenous people as being backwards, back to nature folks living like it’s hundreds of years ago.

But, hey, perhaps they could educate all the Warmist leaders about the hypocrisy of taking tons of fossil fueled trips to places like Bonn, Germany, to complain about Other People using fossil fuels.

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14 Responses to “Swedish Aid Chief: We Can Totally Learn From Indigenous People On ‘Climate Change’ To Live Like It’s 1499 Or Something”

  1. Bob spelled backwards says:

    Genius! We can abandon modern medicine, agriculture, transportation etc and fix the whole shebang because most people will starve and die of disease.

  2. Jeffery says:

    boB and TEACH are both lying. Read the article yourselves (or have you moms read it to you).

    The head of Sweden’s international development suggested that climate change elites listen to the wisdom of indigenous peoples regarding sustainability. He also directly commented on the harmful effects of deforestation.

    boB and TEACH: Do you both consider the destruction of the Earth’s great forests to be an intelligent design or a harmful result of ignorance? The forests add oxygen to and remove carbon dioxide from our only atmosphere.

    • Rotterdam says:

      In most western nations it is common practice to replant once an area has been deforested. Actually if you do your high school biology, growing trees collect less co2 then existing mature trees. In addition the burning of existing older trees actually produces a tremendous amount of co2 into the atmosphere.

      Fast growing plants, grass, saplings and young trees offset the most oxygen. However one disturbing fact is that Older, more mature trees store much more co2 then do younger trees. So the problem for the world is the deforestation of older trees without replanting will do two things. One it will create less o2 in the air while at the same time absorb less co2 while producing more co2 into the air because one of the common practices is simply burning off the mature rain forests rather than actually cutting and milling the wood.

      So with all that being said I wonder how many AGW people will apply for a permit in Brazil or central America to protest the burning of the rain forests. Or go to China and protest while the country destroys the atmosphere? None would be my guess. Because its much easier to extort the west for reasons other then genuine AGW concerns.

      The rising co2 levels along with a concern about the dropping of o2 levels should be of concern to everyone. However the actual culprits in the world are not even being addressed because they are not part of the politically correct west which can be extorted. Mr. Jeffery admonishes us to save the planet yet he does nothing as do the millions of other western AGW radicals. They simply want to extort the west into submission while the real culprits of the world, China, Russia, India, Central and South America are ignored because I mean after all how many of these anti-gun warriors want to invade an area where the culprits would shoot them, and toss them in the burning forests?

      • Jeffery says:

        Rot,

        Many of your statements in your last paragraph are simply untrue or conjecture. You have no idea what we do or do not do or how we live our simple life, so you’re being a storyteller. And if you don’t think US leadership is important in slowing the rise in atmospheric CO2, you’re not thinking straight. In fact, although China has been the worst CO2 polluter for the past decade, China is making efforts to slow their polluting ways. Most of the excess CO2 pumped into the atmosphere and remaining there originated from the US and Europe.

        Why would you suggest that American climate realists arm themselves and invade China or South America? Does that really seem a good way reduce CO2 emissions or deforestation? Perhaps international agreements are a better path forward.

        You often seem more intelligent than your emotional outbursts and communism conspiracy ideation would suggest.

        • Rotterdam says:

          No all of my statements are true. The fact that I find NO protestors in central or south America protesting the burning of forests proves them to be true.

          The number one and number three worst offenders of co2 are China and Brazil. The USA pales in comparrison and yet the AGW crowd focuses their cowardly blogging behind secure computer terminals preaching to the choir.

          Not a one of you are protesting Russia, China, Brazil, India. In fact you spend all your resources going after the USA and Western Europe.

          There is not one thing I wrote that was untrue. Point to one thing I wrote and then expand upon it with facts and figures rather then simply relying upon trying to ridicule my statements as being unfactual.

          But last week the Brazilian president Michel Temer removed the protected status of the National Reserve of Copper and Associates, a national reserve larger than Denmark.
          The reserve, known as “Renca”, covers 46,000 square kilometers and is thought to contain huge amounts of copper, as well as gold, iron ore and other minerals. Roughly 30% of Renca will now be open to mining exploration. Renca also includes indigenous reserves inhabited by various ethnic communities living in relative isolation.

          The decision, which has been denounced by conservation groups and governments around the world, comes as the unpopular Temer struggles with a crushing political and economic crisis that has seen unemployment rise above 12%

          So what is the AGW group doing to offset this?

          According to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, land use, including deforestation and forest degradation, is the second-largest source of global emissions after the energy sector.

          Developed countries around the world have committed resources to help Brazil offset the costs of safeguarding their forests. One example is the Amazon Fund, created in 2008. It has received billions of dollars from foreign governments such as Norway and Germany, to combat deforestation and to promote sustainable practices in the Brazilian Amazon.
          But with 14 million Brazilians unemployed, further assistance is required to ensure that they can protect their forests.

          Despite sending billions to Brazil to stop them from clear cutting and burning the rainforest as you can see, its done nothing other the assuage the AGW crowd into believing they are making a difference.

          You are not. Period.

          • Jeffery says:

            Rot,

            Seriously? You expect Americans to pack up and move to Russia, China and India to protest global warming? You’re seriously nuts.

          • david7134 says:

            Jeff,
            People will buy you a one way ticket.

            Now you will say what about me, and I am trying to get my country free.

  3. david7134 says:

    Jeff,
    There are sure a large number of people lying. Maybe there is something wrong with you.

  4. Jl says:

    And fossil fuels greatly aided in preserving our forests, as most people used to burn wood to keep warm and to cook

    • Jeffery says:

      j,

      Yet the forests deteriorated greatly during the great coal and oil age. Again, the indigenous people knew better than to fell all the trees without replanting.

    • david7134 says:

      Not only what you describe, but they kept a constant environment of heavy smoke to keep away bugs.

  5. Rotterdam says:

    You often seem more intelligent than your emotional outbursts and communism conspiracy ideation would suggest.

    In response to this:

    Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

    There are 49 of them I will not list them all. Just the most important ones.

    4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths. (I pledge alliagance to the flag, NFL kneeling during anthem)

    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. (Currently 95 house of Reps and 20 senators are affilated in some way with the communist/socialist parties in America.)

    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
     
    18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
     
    19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
     
    20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
     
    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
     
    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a “religious crutch.”
     
    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
     
    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

    33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
     
    35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
     
    36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
     
    37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

    42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [“]united force[“] to solve economic, political or social problems.
     
    44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

    Pretty self explanatory I would think. The entire playbook of the Democratic party laid bare as far back as 1963 congressional record.

  6. Rotterdam says:

    Rot,

    Seriously? You expect Americans to pack up and move to Russia, China and India to protest global warming? You’re seriously nuts.

    Just as I suspected. Another finger warrior for the AGW cause. Your total contribution to the cause is hot air spewed on the internet.

    And yes I fully expect you guys to start making a difference in China, Brazil, Russia, Central and South America. Go protest where there are not cops standing between you and the guys you hate. Go man up and put your life out their for what you believe and lets see how many of you come home.

    America is so evil yet you hide behind its protections while trash talking everything about her. YES. I expect all of you anarchist communists to go stand up for what you believe in countries that wont put armed guards between you and your agenda. Thats exactly what I expect.

    Cowards. Everyone of you.

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