Warmists Really Excited Over New Global Warming Poll

Notice that I did not term global warming as “hotcoldwetdry” as usual. There’s a reason for that, which I’ll get to after the story, reported breathlessly at the Washington Post (a Warmist emailed me about this story yesterday, wondering why I hadn’t commented on it. That was due to seeing it soon before heading to work, and an inability to see the study itself at the time)

AP-GfK Poll: Belief in global warming rises with thermometers, even among science doubters

Hooray, we’ve already jumped to politics, and that’s just the headline, in referring to those who do not buy into the notion that the current warm period is causing mostly or solely by Mankind as “science doubters”.

A growing majority of Americans think global warming is occurring, that it will become a serious problem and that the U.S. government should do something about it, a new Associated Press-GfK poll finds.

Even most people who say they don’t trust scientists on the environment say temperatures are rising.

I guess us Climate Realists are losing this, eh?

The poll found 4 out of every 5 Americans said climate change will be a serious problem for the United States if nothing is done about it. That’s up from 73 percent when the same question was asked in 2009.

No, 4 out of 5 did not say hotcoldwetdry, ie, “climate change”, was a serious problem. The completely unscientific phrase “climate change wasn’t mentioned in the poll. What we do get in the poll was exactly what I expected to see

If you ask me that question, my answer is “probably been happening.” In fact, warming has been happening. It started in the mid-1800′s as the natural pattern of a cool period ended and the Earth moved into a warm period (which will be followed by a cool period, etc), just as has been happening since the end of the last glacial period 20,000 years ago.

What is missing from the poll is any assignment of causation. They question asked is about warming, but not what the cause is. None of the questions ask about cause. And that is what this debate is about, not warmth, not temperature rise, but causation. Most Climate Realists understand that the earth has warmed since the end of the Little Ice Age, but know that most of the rise has been natural, with some global anthropogenic causes, mostly from agriculture and landfills. Throw in land use, such as the Urban Heat Island Effect, and the perceived rise is much lower. Perhaps 10-15% of warming comes from those last two, with the rest being natural.

But, yes, 80% of respondents are freaking out over the warmth, saying we’re dooooooooomed! 49% say it’s “very serious”, 31% say “somewhat serious” Let’s give Warmists some props for a 20+ year campaign of getting people to freak over a whopping 1.4 degree Fahrenheit rise since 1850. If that figure was constantly published, people would be much less likely to believe that we’re doomed.

Of course, Warmists still won’t practice what they preach.

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3 Comments

Comment by John Carey
2012-12-15 09:33:30

These polls are nothing but a joke. The left carefully crafts them in a manner to get the results they’re looking for then they use it as proof that more people are in favor of their position.

 
Comment by john
2012-12-15 14:41:29

of course the temp rise is “natural’ only the hard core christianists would say that it was supernatural. It is natural that when the co2 rises the temp rises because CO2 allows UV radiation in but when that warms things and gives off infrared wave length energy it is trapped by the CO@ this is a completely natural reaction. And as far as the 1.8 F rise being nothing well Teach please look and find out how much colder it was 13000 years ago when the glaciers covered much of North America. But at least most climate truthers are moving in the right direction at least now most believe that it is getting warmer. Hot-cold wetter dryer but over all getting warmer, even though there was snow someplace. Just look what that little old 1.8F has done ! Well in the last 30 years it has wiped out 50% of the summer polar ice cap. Yeah the climate truthers numbers are falling at, maybe at the same rate as the polar ice cap. Maybe both will be gone in 8 years or so.

 
Comment by FSM_47
2012-12-15 15:09:55

What is the perfect temperature? How about the one that gives us a longer growing season and more CO2 to enhance plant growth so we can actually feed the new billions of people. Warmists are idiots who cannot see the benefits of a warmer climate. Or they can go back to 1820 when Europe was a lot colder and people were starving .

 

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