If All You See…

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32 Responses to “If All You See…”

  1. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Communism sent the first human into space 60 years ago. Capitalism just now caught up.

    Just sayin’. LOL.

  2. Dana says:

    A commenter on The Other McCain asked me about the homicide rate in St Louis; we had been discussing the homicides in Philadelphia and Chicago. Why, I’m glad he asked! The Gateway City has had 103 murders so far in 2021, and, unlike other cities, the SLPD divides them up by race. Five whites, two Hispanics, and one Asian have been victims, while 95 blacks — 77 males and 18 females — have been murdered there. With a population of 294,890, and a projected 189 murders, this would give the city a homicide rate of 64.07 per 100,000.

    But, as I like to do the math — and we all know that math is raaaaacist, so I must denounce myself in advance — 77 homicides of black males in 199 days works out to an estimated 141 homicides for the entire year. With an, again, guesstimated, black male population of 67,060, that works out to a black male homicide rate of 210.26 per 100,000 population.

    Now, if you are a white male, estimated population 67,234, there will be 5.5 murder victims this year; I’ll round up to 6. They are facing a murder rate of 8.92 per 100,000 population.

    Now, if the problem is just the availability of guns, and the white-to-black population ration in St Louis is very close, 46.53% to 46.41%, why would black males be 23.57 times more likely to be murdered there?

    • Kye says:

      I think Elwood mistook your observations as an insult and a challenge to see who could report the most heinous murders, his CITY or your STATE. Just talking about the abject failure of almost every single demofascist run metropolitan area in violent crime, murder, poverty, filth, vermin, poor schools, stupid uneducated people, B on B crime, welfare, indigency, illiteracy, STD’s, and every other sign of a declining civilization will trigger the racist White hating Elwood.

      I can’t understand why he hates his own race.

      • Dana says:

        The distinguished Mr Dowd doesn’t hate his own race, or whites, if he isn’t white himself. Rather, he is so wedded to liberal thought that his mind is simply closed off, and he just can’t accept facts that do not fit in his worldview.

        He will admit, grudgingly, that yes, blacks in his home town kill each other far more than whites do, but he cannot take a step toward it being a problem internal to the black community. No, to remain true to the liberal mindset, he has to blame it externally.

        It’s a huge contradiction. When it comes to global warming climate change emergency, he wants to Hold People Accountable, by imposing what he says are the costs of their carbon footprints (feetprint?) on them individually, but, when it comes to the actions within the black community, the last thing he wants to do is hold the people in that community responsible for anything.

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          The usually perspicacious Mr Dana misunderstands. We’ve never denied the obvious problems in urban environments, e.g., Black on Black violence, poverty, poor schools, drug abuse, high unemployment – these are facts, easily found. And it’s also true that these issues are often made worse by individuals in the communities. Where white nationalists/nuCons/tRumpublicans appear to have a blind spot in how the situations arose. They deny that the past has any influence on the present. That redlining, Jim Crow, separate but equal, unfair treatment under the GI Bill and FHA, school funding formulae and on and on may also have contributed to the current situation. Can’t we agree that it’s a complex problem requiring complex solutions?

          Can we agree that Black Americans are equal citizens deserving the same opportunities as white Americans, that they are not inferior to whites?

          • drowningpuppies says:

            Rimjob: Can we agree that Black Americans are equal citizens deserving the same opportunities as white Americans, …

            No one here denies that except those voices in your tiny little head.
            But then again you’re a dipshit.

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          • Professor hale says:

            Can we agree that Black Americans are equal citizens deserving the same opportunities as white Americans, that they are not inferior to whites?

            Can we all agree that white lives matter?

          • drowningpuppies says:

            Can we all agree the b in black Americans shouldn’t be capitalized unless you’re a racist dipshit like Rimjob, dipshi5 that he is?

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          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Does Mr Hale have any evidence that white lives don’t matter? What a strange thing for him to have typed.

          • Dana says:

            The sometimes astute Mr Dowd wrote:

            Can we agree that Black Americans are equal citizens deserving the same opportunities as white Americans, that they are not inferior to whites?

            I note with some amusement that the distinguished Mr Dowd is following the Associated Press Stylebook, in capitalizing “black” but not “white” in reference to race. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_yahoo.gif

            Actually, I do agree with that statement, but equal opportunity must mean equal opportunity, not thumb-on-the-scale Affirmative Action.

            And let’s be frank here: people do not exist in a vacuum, but as part of their cultures, and those who live in less efficient cultures are more likely to take on less efficient traits when it comes to education.

            The United States Department of Education recently compiled a new report on high school graduation rates in the United States. Nationwide, in the 2017-18 academic year, 85.3 percent of all students graduated from high school in four years.

            For White Americans, 89.1 percent of all students graduated from high school in four years. For African Americans, the figure was 79.0 percent. Hispanics students had a graduation rate of 81.0 percent.

            The highest Black student high school graduation rate was in the state of Alabama. There, 87.7 percent of all Black students earned their high school diplomas within four years. This was just 3.8 percentage points lower than the rate for Whites. Texas had the second-highest graduation rate for Black students at 86.5 percent.

            The lowest Black student high school graduation of 67 percent was in the District of Columbia. States where the Black student graduation rate was below 70 percent, included Minnesota, New Mexico, Ohio, Oregon, and Wisconsin.

            In all 50 states, the graduation rate for White students was higher than the rate for Black students. In Wisconsin, the Black student high school graduation rate was 24.1 percentage points lower than the rate for White students. In addition to Alabama, the states with the smallest racial gaps in graduation rates between Blacks and Whites included Hawaii, West Virginia, and Rhode Island.

            I don’t think it a controversial statement to say that not being graduated from high school is a tremendous opportunity and achievement killer for the rest of someone’s life, and a 10.1% gap between black and white graduation rates will translate into a huge aggregate economic achievement gap.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            From the dataset (2017-2018) from which the discriminating Mr Dana proffered we find all sorts of interesting data tidbits. For some reasons, economically disadvantaged youth of all stripes, graduate (in 4 yr) at a rate 6% below the national average. For those with limited English proficiency, disabilities, in foster care or homeless the graduation rate is even lower when compared to the national average.

            That’s not to say that poor kids can’t make it through high school, but the data suggest it’s a bit harder for them. Same with kids in foster care or homeless. Although it wasn’t addressed in Mr Dana’s database, one would suspect that kids from single parent families also graduate at a lower than average rate.

            The rate for girls is 6% greater than for boys. Black girls graduate at a higher rate than white boys. Weird huh? Is there in problem with white boy “culture”? How are white parents failing their white boys?

            Black HS kids are disciplined at much higher rates than white kids. Maybe they deserve it.

            Based on data it appears that the interplay from many factors influence the ability to graduate HS in four years.

          • Dana says:

            The esteemed Mr Dowd wrote:

            For some reasons, economically disadvantaged youth of all stripes, graduate (in 4 yr) at a rate 6% below the national average.

            Could be many reasons, but there’s one Mr Dowd is probably loath to consider: perhaps economically disadvantaged youth, in the aggregate, are in economically disadvantaged families because their parents aren’t quite as well educated, or as smart, and these things are both socially and biologically inherited.

            For those with limited English proficiency, disabilities, in foster care or homeless the graduation rate is even lower when compared to the national average.

            Is that any particular surprise? Classes are taught in English, and if you are not fluent in English, you will fall behind. If you are in a poor family situation, or homeless, you’re not going to do as well in school.

            The schools are not individually tailored; they can’t be, and those who aren’t up to the challenge are going to be left behind. Sorry, but that’s just the way it is, and the way it will always be.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:


            Thank you for engaging civilly. Of course, impoverished children often arise from impoverished families! And Black families are and have been overrepresented in poverty stats for generations. Is it significant that white American culture oppressed Blacks regarding schooling, voting, housing, travel, employment as late as the 1960s by law, and by culture thereafter?

            Can’t we just admit that, yeah, American “culture” has screwed up, but we can and will be better?

            Are the impoverished whites of Appalachia not as smart or “efficient” by biology or culture as other Americans? Is it the child’s fault that their parents are dirt poor? That the schools are not as well funded as those in suburban Lexington? It seems obvious that conditions or “culture” can get passed through generations. Yes, dirt poor Ozark hillbillies can become millionaires contributing to society, but in general it’s more difficult, agreed? Through no efforts of their own, the son of a bank VP likely has an easier time than the son of coal miner or waitress. There are also facts. The movement that the nuCons detest to the point of violence is to help the miner, the waitress, the dock worker, the Wal Mart clerk to break the cycle. How? We’ve covered this ad infinitum, but by changes in tax, labor, bankruptcy, healthcare, transportation, trade, fiscal, monetary, retirement, immigration policies. The rich are getting exorbitantly richer, the poor poorer. You call this communism or demofascism out of your hatred.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        We all know exactly what the prolific Mr Dana’s objective was. He has spent the past few weeks detailing how violent American Blacks are. It’s a familiar refrain from the white nationalist movement.

        Kye himself buys into the idea those of the Black “race” are less intelligent, more violent, less industrious and that somehow this is genetically linked to melanin. No one outside of white nationalists believes the concept of multiple human races.

        What most whites refuse to admit is any culpability for the state of our cities, our Black brothers and sisters, and take no interest in helping. Our rural areas are also in disarray, if he hasn’t noticed. 97,000 Americans died of drug overdoses in 2020, many of them rural and exurban whites. Jobs are in the cities, suburbs and exurbs.

        White nationalists love their recitation of facts – and they’re most true – cities are more often violent, often with poor schools, often with poor job opportunities, have more degrading poverty – but they use those recitations to let fly at Black people and Democrats. Rural America has poverty, welfare, illiteracy, stupid people (Marjorie Greene was elected!), drug abuse, Confederate flags, abortions, meth labs, declining church going, W on W crime and “every other sign of a declining civilization”. So what do you want to do about it? Make it worse?

        IF America is in decline, look no further than an economic system that punishes the working class while rewarding the wealthy and corporations. Sure, I do OK with my business interests, and you and tRump do OK with your grifting at the federal trough, but there’s a great swath of America struggling, and they are both Black and white. But you would rather “rassle in the mud” and fight about commies and Blacks and CRT and Mexicans and libs and the plight of the “abused white man” than work toward a better America. No society in history has survived with this level of inequality.

        And no, working to reduce inequality is not communism (which you can’t define, anyway) any more than President Eisenhower was a communist or Israel is a communist regime. Is universal healthcare a communist tenet? Tell that to Israel, Germany, England, Switzerland, S Korea etc. Is progressive taxation a communist plot? Tell that to Norway, France, Finland… in fact, tell that to every advanced nation on Earth.

        If you want to discuss any of this, let’s give it a go, but if your objective is to troll about demofascists trying to turn America into the old USSR, do us both a favor and f@ck off as you promised earlier.

        • Kye says:

          Once again you vomited out a mass trade making response or rebuttal all but impossible if one is not interested in writing a book. But I will take a stab at a few points.

          First, Dana is not a “white nationalist” (whatever you in your idiocy define one as) but he may well be an American Nationalist like I am. I realize to a rabid bigot and hater such as you there may be no difference. Therein lies your first psychological problem, Elwood. You seem to think we on the right are all living in Hooterville. Ignorant, racist, trying to set up either a Christian theocracy or White nationalist nation. We’re not. You also think we are all evil while we just figure you’re all plain stupid!

          Kye himself has studied races for years and yes, I do believe the races have different attributes both positive and negative. I’m speaking in generalities of course. I don’t believe that “those of the Black “race” are less intelligent, more violent, less industrious and that somehow this is genetically linked to melanin” and for you to say that is both ignorant and insulting. My own foster sons are black so I do think I know a bit about the strong and weak points of the race. I never said ability is generally linked to “melanin”, I said it’s liked to race, genetics, and also culture. Melanin is color, not race. Only a racist like you would categorize people by “melanin”.

          It is you and those of your leftist bent who believe the black race is less intelligent otherwise why else would you push for lower educational and employment standards for black even infer they are too stupid to obtain the right credentials to vote. Now that requires great stupidity to not be able to do that yet get a driver license to drive, don’t ya think?

          You further stated that: “No one outside of white nationalists believes the concept of multiple human races.” Really? You don’t believe in Caucasian, Negroid, Mongoloid and Australoid races? That sounds like “multiple human races” to me. Humans are a species and just like all dogs are canines but all canines aren’t beagles so are all Mongoloids human but not all humans Mongoloid.

          My back hurts from leaning over this damn laptop so I’m stopping now.

          But tell me, why DO you hate White people so?

          • Dana says:

            My good friend John, whom I have once met, wrote:

            First, Dana is not a “white nationalist” (whatever you in your idiocy define one as) but he may well be an American Nationalist like I am. I realize to a rabid bigot and hater such as you there may be no difference.

            The distinguished Mr Dowd seems to believe that if one recognizes that there are differences, in the aggregate, about how people in one culture think and behave vis a vis people in another culture think and behave, and that those differences have real and obvious economic and social impacts, one must somehow be racist.

            We can look south of the border and see it. In both North and South America, white people came and displaced, conquered and killed the indigenous inhabitants. The Spaniards and the Portuguese who conquered the lands south of the Rio Grande are just as Caucasian as the French and English settlers who took over the north. They were, however, different culturally.

            And in the English and French speaking areas, the settlers, facing hardships just as great as those south of the Rio Grande, built stronger and more prosperous economies than did the Spanish and Portuguese settlers. It had nothing to do with race; we were all Caucasian.

            The multiculturalists will hate this fact, but it is still a fact: some cultures are and have been more efficient economically, and the English, French and German cultures seem to do better than the southern European ones as far as economics goes.

            Therein lies your first psychological problem, Elwood. You seem to think we on the right are all living in Hooterville. Ignorant, racist, trying to set up either a Christian theocracy or White nationalist nation. We’re not. You also think we are all evil while we just figure you’re all plain stupid!

            Oh, but it’s true: I do live in Hooterville!

            I’ve had years of cramped up city life,
            Living like a duck in a pen.
            All I know that it’s a pity life,
            Can’t be simple again!

            I did live in the cities. I couldn’t wait to get out of small town Mt Sterling. Then after 13 years of Lexington, followed by fifteen years in the Hampton Roads area, and two more years in New Castle County, Delaware, I finally realized how much better life was in a small town. No, there weren’t as many good restaurants, and yes, trips to a good grocery store took longer, but I also didn’t have to worry if the doors were locked.

            In our house in Mt Sterling, the front door was never locked because the lock was broken! In Jim Thorpe, the front door was rarely locked because not everybody had a key, and the town was safe enough that it didn’t matter. The ‘spare’ daughter never had a key; she simply opened the door and walked in.

            Now we’re out in the country, across the railroad tracks, someplace to which even the Post Office won’t deliver mail — but Fed Ex and UPS will; imagine that! — and while Mrs Pico has a habit of locking the doors, I usually don’t. On some nights, I’ve left the side door open, so the critters can go in and out as they please, though, with Mochi, the chocolate lab, if anyone or thing showed up that would be out of the ordinary, she would let us know, loudly.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            One of my most deeply ingrained tunes since high school days, by the Osborne Brothers and high lonesome (btw- Osborne Brothers sang “trapped like a duck in a pen”, but there’s at least a hundred versions). That and John Prine’s “Paradise”. And anything by Charlie Daniels band. We still have a twice a year bluegrass get together/singalong with relatives and friends, one near Branson, one near Coldwater. I’m a Missouri Ozarks hillbilly. Grew up on Hank Williams, Hank Thompson, Little Jimmy Dickens, Roy Acuff, Ozarks Jubilee, Dolly and Porter, Doc Watson, Bill Monroe (“Blue Moon of Kentucky”), The Presleys, Baldknobbers, Bass Pro, fried chicken, piccalili, rhubarb pie, biscuits n gravy, catfish, quail, squirrel and rabbit… I always found my kind-hearted Ozarkian cuzzins to be LESS racist than the St. Louis area people I came to know. We dirt poor hillbillies generally had few to look down on (except Arkansans). I still relish our idioms, gully-warshers, the holler, useless as tits on a boar hog, slicker ‘n goose shit, long vowel sounds like cee-ment, poh-lice… So understand how heartbreaking this devolution to the hateful nuCon movement has been and the endemic cruelty of this new brand of “conservatism”. I have little use for limousine liberals, extreme wokeness, especially someone ordering decaf quad with 2 almond milks, and Madagascar cinnamon in front of me. But the answer is not to destroy America, it’s to give all Americans a hand up – and for the long term.

            This deepening but largely artificial divide between rural and urban working class Americans is ruinous to us all. This emphasis on xenophobia is destructive.

            BTW, if you can’t sing Rocky Top you’re not a true southern-type midwesterner (Southern MO, s IL, AR, n LA, n MS, TN, KY, southern IN, n GA, WV).

            Rocky Top, you’ll always be
            Home sweet home to me
            Good ol’ Rocky Top
            Rocky Top, Tenessee

            Once I had a girl on Rocky Top
            Half bear, the other half cat,
            wild as a mink but sweet as soda pop
            I still dream about that

            Strangers once climbed up ol’ Rocky Top
            Lookin for moonshine still
            Strangers ain’t come down from Rocky Top
            Reckon they never will

            Corn won’t grow at all on Rocky Top
            Dirt’s too rocky by far
            thats why all the folks on Rocky Top
            Get their corn from a jar.

          • drowningpuppies says:

            Rimjob: I’m a Missouri Ozarks hillbilly.

            Goes far to explain your inbred thought process or lack thereof.
            Did you marry you inbred sister too?

            Bwaha! Lolgf https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

        • Jl says:

          “How violent blacks are…”. Yes, because they are. Blacks at 13% of the population commit over 50% of all homicides, usually other blacks. If we agree most homicides are committed by males, and usually young males, then half of 13% would of course be about 6-7%. Average age range of young male offenders would probably be 17-28 or so, which would maybe be about 3% of all blacks. So in the end we have over 50% of all homicides committed by around 3% of the total population of the country. Violent, indeed

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Surely a great thinker such as Jl has put some thought into why young Black men are responsible for such a high proportion of violent crime. No?

            What do you think it is in white culture that results in most cases of white collar crime being committed by white men? Or is crime really just a male problem? Black women are less violent than white men.

            $56 billion were lost to white-collar crimes in 2020, but decidedly underreported.
            Only 3% of federal prosecutions annually are for white-collar crimes.
            Cybercrime damage cost is said to reach $6 trillion annually in 2021.
            The majority of white-collar felons are white, college-educated, married men.

            You may remember the economic meltdown of 2008 when Americans lost $14 trillion in value. This wasn’t caused by violent young Black men, was it?

            Do you think white men are just more larcenous than all other people? Is it genetic, cultural or situational?

          • david7134 says:

            Once again you display a mastery of convoluted, very stupid thinking. Certainly white people commit crimes and since white people are smart, those crimes are concentrated in specific areas. I would estimate that 90% of whites are trustworthy and do not engage in crime of any sort.

            Now, one study after another shows that blacks have lower levels of intelligence when compared to Jews, Asians, and whites. Reference, The Bell Curve. I know, you hate that book, but truth is truth. It has been well demonstrated that only about 20% of blacks are on par with the rest of worlds races. That leaves the vast majority typically committing violent actions and crime. In the US blacks are 7 times more likely to commit a violent act, world wide it is 3%.

            Now, your inability to see this and discount any truths that are inconvenient to your world view is fairly stupid, again that word that sums up your persona. It is also racist to not see this truth, in fact, you are the most racist person here. Many people have your attitude and that is what makes it difficult to help blacks to become better people in our society. In short, people like you hold them back and do not allow us to institute measures for advancement, and your attitude causes more racial division.

            I have a black neighbor and the two of us exercise together. I have run some of your comments and attitudes by him and he agrees, you are the problem we suffer with.

          • david7134 says:

            Sorry, 3% is supposed to be 3 times.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Thanks. Doogie Hoser never fails to impress.

            So white men stealing billions are smart, not criminals. Got it.

          • Professor Hale says:

            So white men stealing billions are smart, not criminals. Got it.

            You voted for him. What did you think was going to happen when you voted for a man whose only accomplishment is decades of government corruption?

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      And K-Y seems to have an abundance of murderous white sociopaths for some reason.

      • Dana says:

        Our magnificent Missourian wrote:

        And K-Y seems to have an abundance of murderous white sociopaths for some reason.

        Unlike most Southern states, Kentucky has a fairly low black percentage of the population, at 8.07%; it stands to reason that a larger percentage of the Commonwealth’s criminals are going to be white.

        But let’s look at the city of Lexington’s shooting investigations, from the Lexington Police Department. With 67 non-fatal shootings as of July 18th, 50 of them 75%, had black victims, in a city that is just 14.6% black.

        The Homicide investigations page very pointedly does not list the race of the victims

        Lexington is not a city of dense urban slums. Rather, even the poorer neighborhoods tend to be composed primarily of single-family houses. Yeah, some of them are in varying states of disrepair, but the population, even in the poorer neighborhoods, are not piled up on top of each other. Apartment buildings in the city tend to be either older ones in student neighborhoods, or newer, more upscale ones as the population expanded.

        The schools in the city are not terrible, and the city recently opened a new public high school and public middle school. The newer working class neighborhoods are mostly racially integrated, while the older, wealthier Richmond Road to Tates Creek Road slice of the pie is almost exclusively white.

        So, why are only 12 out of 67 shooting victims white? (The others are listed as Hispanic.) The Bluegrass State has very lax gun laws; you do not need a permit to carry a concealed weapon in Kentucky, and, at least out in the country, almost everyone has a firearm. It may be different in the city, but of the few liberals I know living in Lexington, all have a firearm.

    • drowningpuppies says:

      Yet Hunter Biden remains free, hey Rimjob?

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      • Professor Hale says:

        That is what “above the law” looks like. As with Hillary and Joe, “no police will investigate, no prosecutor will seek a warrant or bring charges, no judge will hear the case, and no jury will convict” no matter what the evidence is. The very concept of equal protection under the law is a myth that is observably not true.

        • Kye says:

          That’s also the MO for the stolen election of 2020 and the phony “insurrection” of 1/6. I figure it’s how they will keep their co-conspirators in the Wuhan Chinese Hoax out of prison, collection their pensions and (ghost) writing books.

          There is nothing about what is currently being called the “Democratic Party” that is not corrupt, anti White and anti American. Absolutely nothing!


          • Professor Hale says:

            The good news is that I may still enjoy the full enforcement of the law on me so everyone can still depend on me to behave and participate in classical western civilization activities like paying taxes and obeying laws and courts. I can only imagine the anarchy that might happen if I and all my gun hoarding white supremacist friends went on a rampage or even a (gasp) insurrection. As the internet meme goes, if white guys with hundreds of millions of guns and trillions of rounds of ammunition were a problem, you would know it.

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