Happy New Year’s! Welcome to 2020! And one year closer to End Of Life As We Know it. 2150 and 2200 are fast approaching, the primary dates that the climate alarmists always want to use to denote when Earth is going to burn, baby, burn in fire, dan dan daaaan, fire, dan dan daaaaan.
New Year’s is usually a time when we make resolutions which we abandon when we realize that chocolate, bacon, and beer are great (and bacon cooked in beer and covered with chocolate!) In the blogosphere, we often make predictions for the New Year. Instead, how about a challenge? I’ve done this every year since 2011: will Warmists take it?
For a long time, the alarmists have been making predictions as to what the climate will do. They say in 10 years, 50, 100. Heck, their big talking point now is doom if we, meaning you, not them, do not Do Something within 12 years. Instead, why not, say, make predictions for……2020! What I want for them to do, from the biggest of big climahypocrites, such as Al Gore, James Hansen, Barack Obama, and Leonardo DiCaprio, to the smallest climate dupes, is tell us exactly what the climate will do this year. For some of these questions, I’m using the USA, but, alarmists from around the world can use their own country/region, if they like:
What will the average temperature of the Earth be for 2020? Most scientists place it at 59 degrees F (15 C). How far above, or below, will it be?- What will the average temperature be for the USA? The rough average for the USA is 53 F.
- How many tropical systems will there be in the Atlantic? How many will hit the USA?
- What will the four seasons do in 2020? Warmer, colder, hotter, wetter? Tell us
- What will each month look like in the USA? How about in your home state?
- Which months will be above average, and which ones below, temperature wise?
- What states will have big floods, and during what months?
- What will tornado season look like?
- How many destructive thunderstorms will there be, and in which states?
- How many “extreme†weather events will there be?
- How much ice will the poles gain/lose?
- Will the Arctic be ice free this summer?
- What will the average precipitation be for your home city? Average temperature? Average low’s and highs?
- How many earthquakes will there be (since, apparently, climate change/globull warming creates earthquakes)?
- Pick an island, and tell us how much the sea will rise around it.
There are many, many, many more questions that can be asked, but, I know what the alarmists are thinking: “Teach, that is weather, not climate! I refuse to participate!†Ah, but, what, exactly, is climate? Let’s pull a couple good definitions
- Climate encompasses the statistics of temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, wind, rainfall, atmospheric particle count and numerous other meteorological elements in a given region over long periods of time
- Climate is the average weather conditions at a particular place over a long period of time. Climate is the long-term predictable state of the atmosphere. It is affected by physical features such as mountains, rivers, positioning of the globe, plateaus, deserts, depressions and much more.
- The general or typical atmospheric conditions for a place and/or period of time. Conditions include rainfall, temperature, thunderstorms, lightning, freezes, etc.
Notice, “long term predictable.†Weather and other natural forces create climate. And right now the alarmists are saying “but, Teach, one year is not considered to be a “long period of time!â€â€ Well, you have plenty of data available for the long term, and, with all your vast knowledge of what the climate is doing, due to man’s release of greenhouse gases, surely you alarmists can make predictions for 2019 based on that long term data, and be mostly correct, right? Surely, you aren’t afraid to make predictions for this year, and tell us what the climate during 2019 will do, right? But, you have to make your predictions, and can’t go back and change them up as the year goes on. And at the end of the year, we will see how well you have done.
Any alarmist up for the challenge? And no cheating be reading the Farmer’s Almanac, which tends to be right way more than the Met, NASA, UN IPCC, and other alarmist groups are. Forget about your PR blitzes, “spreading awareness†campaigns, your advocacy, your stunts, and tell us what will happen. If you’re correct, for a change, maybe people will start to believe you again.
Oh, and a second challenge: live your life in 2020 in the manner you tell everyone else to live. Follow St. Greta of Stockholm.
I have a prediction. None of our fellow commenters who are climate cultists will make any actual predictions.
Barring major volcanic eruptions, a major asteroid strike or nuclear war, I predict that the decadal mean global surface temperature will continue to increase for the next 8 decades.
In fact, I’ll even wager that the next decade will be warmer than the last, with the same exceptions listed above.
TEACH, how about it?
I predict that the decadal mean global surface temperature will continue to increase for the next 8 decades.
You can do anything with fake numbers.
In fact, I’ll even wager that the next decade will be warmer than the last, with the same exceptions listed above.
TEACH, how about it?
You’re full of it.
LOLGFY
“The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from US Consulate at Bergen Norway.
Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate condition and hitherto unheard-of temperature in the Arctic zone.
Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes.
Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many point well-known glaciers have entirely disappeared.
Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.
Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coast cities uninhabitable.â€
This report was from November 2, 1922, as reported and published in The Washington Post.
“Within a few years…â€?
Bill,
The mean global surface temperature is about 0.5C greater today than in 1922. The report you cite relates to small region of the Earth (Spitzbergen Island and vicinity north of Scandinavia), not the entire Earth. It’s entirely consistent for various regions of the Earth show independent heating and cooling – for example, neither the MWP or the Little Ice Age appeared to be global.
The Consul reported to the U.S. State Department in October 1922 and published in the Monthly Weather Review:
*The Arctic seems to be warming up. Reports from fisherman, seal hunters, and explorers who sail the seas about Spitzbergen and the eastern Arctic, all point to a radical change in climatic conditions, and hitherto underheard-of high temperatures in that part of the earth’s surface.
In August, 1922, the Norwegian Department of Commerce sent an expedition to Spitzbergen and Bear Island under the leadership of Dr. Adolf Hoel, lecturer on geology at the University of Christiania. Its purpose was to survey and chart the lands adjacent to the Norwegian mines on those islands, take soundings of the adjacent waters, and make other oceanographic investigations.
Ice conditions were exceptional. In fact, so little ice has never before been noted. The expedition all but established a record, sailing as far north as 81° 29′ in ice-free water. This is the farthest north ever reached with modern oceanographic apparatus.
The character of the waters of the great polar basin has heretofore been practically unknown. Dr. Hoel reports that he made a section of the Gulf Stream at 81° north latitude and took soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters. These show the Gulf Stream very warm, and it could be traced as a surface current till beyond the 81st parallel. The warmth of the waters makes it probable that the favorable ice conditions will continue.
In connection with Dr. Hoel’s report, it is of interest to note the unusually warm summer in Arctic Norway and the observations of Capt. Martin Ingebrigsten, who has sailed the eastern Arctic for 54 years past. He says that he first noted warmer conditions in 1918, that since that time it has steadily gotten warmer, and that today the Arctic of that region is not recognizable as the same region of 1868 to 1917.
Many old landmarks are so changed as to be unrecognizable. Where formerly great masses of ice were found, there are now often moraines, accumulations of earth and stones. At many points where glaciers formerly extended far into the sea they have entirely disappeared.*
The mean global surface temperature is about 0.5C greater today than in 1922. The report you cite relates to small region of the Earth (Spitzbergen Island and vicinity north of Scandinavia), not the entire Earth. It’s entirely consistent for various regions of the Earth show independent heating and cooling – for example, neither the MWP or the Little Ice Age appeared to be global.
Bull.
The ice sheet is heavier than ever. Lose the faked data.
LOLGFY
Elwood.
How many hockey-stick lies will you endure before you come over to the Right side?
Bill,
How likely to you does it seem that a communist plot involving thousands of scientist (including several who did their work a century ago), all the world’s governments, every scientific organization, every university on Earth and the ice caps is underway?
I have to follow the best information available, which I hope is what you do. I’ll change my mind on global warming when the evidence dictates.
Labeling every bit of evidence that disagrees with your stance as fake just seems dishonest.
Is there any evidence that will convince that CO2-based warming is real?
“The MWP didn’t appear to be global..â€. It appears it was,,
http://pages.science-skeptical.de/MWP/MedievalWarmPeriod.htmx
Nothing new..
https://realclimatescience.com/2016/01/disappearing-glaciers/
I’m watching the 120th Mummers Parade. The talk is about how racist, sexist and islamophobic it all is. I guess the snowflakes in Philly are gearing up to Woke the Mummers. They showed the “Philadelphia City Council” in stock footage and it looked like a meeting of the African National Congress.
Kye,
I love the Mummers! The costumes, the music, the banjos, the horns, The Strut, the fun. What’s not to like?
Let’s suggest that the Mummers, who mean no harm, cut their blackface etc – and that our “Woke” brothers and sisters lighten up. They don’t know what you’re missing.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Mummers+Strut+Song&ru=%2fvideos%2fsearch%3fq%3dMummers%2bStrut%2bSong%26FORM%3dVDMHRS&view=detail&mid=B3BB7E5FBD60251077E4B3BB7E5FBD60251077E4&rvsmid=030098E63C08799F0FB7030098E63C08799F0FB7&FORM=VDQVAP
the “Philadelphia City Council†in stock footage and it looked like a meeting of the African National Congress
Are they elected? Yes.
The members seem consistent with the demographics of the county, whites, blacks, Asian, Hispanic.
http://phlcouncil.com/council-members/
I love the Mummers! The costumes, the music, the banjos, the horns, The Strut, the fun. What’s not to like?
Let’s suggest that the Mummers, who mean no harm, cut their blackface etc – and that our “Woke†brothers and sisters lighten up. They don’t know what you’re missing.
Mummers don’t wear blackface, idiot. And the strut comes form a lot of them being queers and the way they swished around in the wee smalls of New Year’s.
The members seem consistent with the demographics of the county, whites, blacks, Asian, Hispanic.
Which is why the place is one of the murder capitals of the country.
LOLGFY
Elwood.
How many hockey-stick lies will you endure before you come over to the Right side?
And they say Cole Porter is dead.
Actually, he is and so is Jeffery’s attempt at wit.
Hey Sibley,
LOLGFY
Sibley,
Cole Porter was a composer/songwriter, moron.
Sorry, Sibley and moron in the same comment is redundant.
LOLGFY
Fredo, the photo I saw was the City Council having a meeting about some nonsense in Philly. The room was stacked with “constituents” and that’s what I was referring to. There were about a dozen non black faces in the room. And when you refer to the officials in any large city that has been run EXCLUSIVELY by Democrats for 70 years like Philly has you need to understand they weren’t elected they were Selected by one party rule. That’s like saying Castro was elected with 98% of the vote. You fool no one but yourself.
Fido,
Whose fault is it that few Caucs showed up?
One party rule like rural areas in Red States?
You fool no one but yourself.
How likely to you does it seem that a communist plot involving thousands of scientist (including several who did their work a century ago), all the world’s governments, every scientific organization, every university on Earth and the ice caps is underway?
Pretty likely since that’s what’s happening.
BTW You left out, “You’re just being paranoid”.
I have to follow the best information available, which I hope is what you do. I’ll change my mind on global warming when the evidence dictates.
No, you’ll change it when your massas tell you to.
Labeling every bit of evidence that disagrees with your stance as fake just seems dishonest.
We’ve been saying all along you’re a liar. Admission of the problem is always the first step.
Is there any evidence that will convince that CO2-based warming is real?
Actual facts, for openers.
Bill,
What facts would you find convincing that CO2-dependent warming is real?
If your answer is none, or if you can’t describe what it takes, your position is untenable. It’s a feeling or belief, not a scientific position.
Here’s why…..
https://notrickszone.com/2019/12/31/2019-science-refutes-climate-alarm-on-every-front-shrinking-deserts-growing-islands-crumbling-consensus-weaker-storms-cooler-arctic-etc-etc-etc/
It would be an interesting show if the Governments of the Earth proffered billions in grants to disprove AGW. I wonder how many concerned scientists would be able to provide proof that AGW is an agenda of the Globalist cabal led by the 1222 billionaires.
Steyer who is funding AGW candidates also owns coal stocks overseas. George Soros who is funding AGW also bought amazing amounts of coal stocks when Obama began his war on Coal.
Now that Trump is in office Soros and Steyer are getting rich off co2 while funding candidates opposed to co2.
It has never been the science for me. It is the politics of AGW that turns both sides into fanatics of their position.
The world seemed to survive and thrive in times when there was vastly more co2 than today. The argument is that the increase is expanding too rapidly. Perhaps, but if people were seriously concerned about co2 they would invest in solar panels for their homes, allow nuclear energy and allow the burial of nuclear waste in Yucca mountain which was built in Harry Reids state and then when the billions in money going to Nevada was spent the state said no to the use of Yucca Mountain.
I have to agree that the actions of the possessed do not reflect a real feeling of dire consequences. When the floodwaters are rising in the creek behind your house, you do something. You do not pop a beer and go back to watching TV. You figure a way out of your dire predicament.
In today’s political climate, I see a lot of people predicting dire consequences but there is no fear in their voices, no panic in their actions and no appearance of catastrophe awaiting.
In short. Unless and until the Air Base closes its gates, the sirens sound and the blast door fly off their holes, I am not going to be concerned about nuclear war. In the same vein, unless and until those that believe begin panicking and showing their panic in real actions then I fear I am ambivalent to their plight.
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