Hey, Can We Not Do The Kamala Harris Birtherism Meme, Please?

When it came to the Obama birtherism thing, it sorta made sense. First, because it was a fun way to generate conversation. Second, because it was started by people associated with Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign. Then you have the notion of how bad Obama’s certificate of live birth looked. It did appear manipulated. And he wouldn’t release his actual birth certificate, which was surely him trying to troll people. And succeeding. And the media pretty much refused to investigate anything in Obama’s background, which meant people would run wild.

However, with Kamala Harris, this is simply dumb beyond belief. On Twitter, Dana and both engaged a Kamala Harris Birther, and this is what they are pushing

This has been debunked easily by many. Here’s what they are pushing

(Snopes) In January 2019, Jacob Wohl — a Twitter political troll and veteran of a failed smear campaign against Robert Mueller — dipped his toes into the topic of constitutional law, asserting his view that 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Senator Kamala Harris of California was constitutionally ineligible to hold the office of President of the United States:

https://twitter.com/JacobAWohl/status/1087736259517108224

Now, Snopes is not perfect. Nor is Politifact. But they are correct

The U.S. Constitution says that “no person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President.”

So the key language is whether Harris is a “natural born citizen.” And experts say she meets that definition.

First, there’s the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution. The relevant portion says that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”

Second, there’s a 1952 statute (8 U.S. Code § 1401) that echoes the language in the Fourteenth Amendment and says that people born in the United States are “nationals and citizens.”

And third, there’s an 1898 Supreme Court decision, known as the Wong Kim Ark case. In its 6-2 majority decision, the justices ruled that Wong — and others born on United States soil, with a few clear exceptions — did indeed qualify for citizenship under the 14th Amendment.

Kamala was born in the U.S. in Oakland. It matters zero that her parents weren’t U.S. citizens. Had they been diplomatic personnel, this would have been different. But, they weren’t. It’s why there is actually a birthing industry where citizens, especially Chinese, come to the U.S. to give birth., making the child a natural born U.S. citizen. It’s why illegals come to have their kids here (well, in this case, to establish roots so that the parents do not get deported). Politifact gives this birther conspiracy a Pants On Fire rating, and it deserves it. The Constitution, the law, and court rulings prove this.

So, just stop. Don’t go there. It’s not even a fun one like with Obama, when so many did it tongue-in-cheek. This is clear cut. Move on. Because you are not helping the show with this. You’re hurting it.

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15 Responses to “Hey, Can We Not Do The Kamala Harris Birtherism Meme, Please?”

  1. Jacob Noire says:

    because it was started by people associated with Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign.

    It may have been started by Clinton supporters, but not anyone associated with the campaign. And certainly it was publicized and used for fund-raising by the right-wing media and GOP. It was not “tongue-in-cheek’ but was a right-wing cottage industry with analysis and re-analysis of the “forged” birth certificate. It fed the right-wing meme that Hussein Obama was a Black foreigner. A majority of Republican voters said Obama was either foreign born or they were unsure of where he was born.

    If Senator Harris becomes the nominee her origin WILL be a discussion point for the right. It’s not a coincidence that she is of Jamaican-Indian background.

    • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

      Kamala Harris wants America to be like California:
      46th in education
      15th in crime
      Highest homeless population
      Highest poverty rate
      Worst pollution
      Most illegals
      Holds the most debt Jail time for misgendering but not for spreading HIV
      Run by Democrats for decades https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

    • formwiz says:

      For those who forgot, the Lefties tried to make a big deal out of St John of Hanoi being born in the Canal Zone.

      Never cut a Democrat any slack.

      the “forged” birth certificate. It fed the right-wing meme that Hussein Obama was a Black foreigner.

      Well, that was justified. No, birth cert in ’61 would list his race as African. And even he admitted it.

      PS Be a scream if she did turn out to be an illegal.

  2. Hawk says:

    When the Constitution was drafted the only one way for a child to be born a citizen was by having both parents as citizens. This was because of derivative citizenship. Meaning that if a husband or father was a citizen then the wife and children’s citizenship were derived from his. Either both parents were citizens or neither were. That is what the natural born citizen clause in the Constitution is referring to. If a person has just one parent who is not a citizen then they cannot be a natural born citizen. The only thing that can change this is a constitutional amendment. And no amendment including the 14th amendment has ever addressed the topic of natural born citizenship.

    Later laws passed by Congress created new ways for people to be granted citizenship at birth. However, this does not make them natural born citizens. It makes them naturalized citizens since their citizenship is derived from Congress’s power to naturalize (article 1, section 8).

  3. Hoss says:

    Hadn’t heard anything about this, but the Birthers are nothing compared to the Colluders and the Truthers.

  4. Jacob Noire says:

    Hey, Can We Not Do The Kamala Harris Birtherism Meme, Please?

    NuConservatives can’t help themselves. Denigrating women, Blacks, LGBTQs, Hispanics, Native Americans, Muslims, the poor etc is really all they have.

    • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

      Chris Cuomo, NuCon, can’t help himself. Denigrating a black ho.
      Who knew?

      https://www.news18.com/news/world/cnn-anchor-apologises-after-backlash-for-birther-tweet-on-kamala-harris-2013837.html

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    • Kye says:

      NuDemocrats can’t help themselves from calling anybody with whom they disagree as denigrating women, Blacks, LGBTQs, Hispanics, Native Americans, Muslims, the poor etc is really all they have. Name calling is in their DNA.

      Is there ever going to be a time Jacob, where you can accept we don’t like a person because of their political posture? Sometimes a commie, regardless of race, color, religion or sex is just a dirty f*****g commie. Kameltoe Harris is “just a dirty f*****g commie”.

      • Jacob Noire says:

        Kye,

        You’re hardly helping your argument.

        Why not criticize Senate Harris’ positions rather than calling her a Black Ho, Kameltoe, dirty f@cking commie? Why are Cons questioning her citizenship?

        Con Men hate/fear her because she’s female, biracial, smart, well-spoken, confident, popular and liberal. The Con play book is to attack her personally – she’s sick, immoral, not one of us, a Black Ho, lesbian, foreign, kameltoe, a dirty f@cking commie.

  5. Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

    The Brown concubine. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

  6. Kye says:

    Calling someone a dirty f*****g commie is not a personal attack. At least not the way I mean it. It’s a political attack and a political observation. The broad is a commie. She promotes communist ideas. I don’t care about her color, race, religion or whether or not she’s a whore or how many times she gave Willie Brown head.* She is a political personality running for political office and her politics make her a dirty f*****g commie. If you think that’s personal then we disagree on what is personal so I’ll try and keep that in mind.

    As a matter of fact in today’s world of phony feminism it’s refreshing to see a woman who can admit she would be nowhere if not for her screwing around.

    • Jacob Noire says:

      I think you’re a dirty f@cking fascist. But it’s not a personal attack. You’re also a dirty f@cking misogynist and racist. But that’s also not personal. I could care less if you’re a man-whore or pedophile or like child porn. It’s you’re politics that make you a dirty f@cking fascist.

      Nothing personal.

      • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

        No one really cares about what a dirty f@cking nignorant angry little colored fella in st. louis aka jeffery l. keene thinks.

        Nothing personal. https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

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