If All You See…

…is a glacier melting from too much carbon pollution, you might just be a Warmist

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11 Responses to “If All You See…”

  1. gitarcarver says:

    I am curious Jeffery….

    Since you do not believe or adhere to any of the beliefs espoused by the Evengelical Lutheran Church, what is your purpose of posting the letter?

    Is it to say “look! Here is someone in ‘authority’ in the Christian community calling for peace and understanding?”

    If that is the case, what do you do about the religious leaders of Islam that are calling for more attacks, and more deaths?

    Is it your opinion that the leader of one faith must be listened to and the leader of another faith should be ignored?

    Lastly, why would you post something in which you do not believe? Are you citing it as some authoritative edict? If it is an authoritative edict, why do you believe Eaton on this issue but think she is “delusional” as you have labeled all people of faith?

  2. Jeffery says:

    Unlike you, I recognize good regardless of source. And I recognize evil regardless of source.

    I don’t reject the good works and good words of someone just because they don’t believe as I do. That would be the essence of bigotry, wouldn’t it?

    If the leader of a religion, a religion with beliefs different from Islam, can call for peace and understanding, why can’t you?

  3. drowningpuppies says:

    Sensitive little guy, aren’t you?

  4. Jeffery says:

    puppyfluffer,

    Most humans are sensitive, it’s the fanatics, far-rightists and sociopaths that have no conscience or empathy. Obviously there’s a lot of overlap.

    You may not realize this but one can be tough, realistic and caring.

  5. gitarcarver says:

    Unlike you, I recognize good regardless of source. And I recognize evil regardless of source.

    So your belief on what is good and evil is subjective as to whether you agree with it or not.

    Got it.

    That would be the essence of bigotry, wouldn’t it?

    Uh…..no.

    As her words spring from her beliefs – beliefs that you have said you despise and hate – it seems odd that you would suddenly fall all over yourself agreeing with a person you believe to be wrong, evil and delusional.

    If the leader of a religion…….

    There you go again, spouting off things of which you are ignorant.

    Eaton is not the head of a religion. (ie She is not the head of Christianity.)

    call for peace and understanding, why can’t you?

    There you go again, living in a fantasy world. When have you ever heard me say anything advocating violence against Muslims? (I’ll give you a clue. Never.)

    In fact, you were the one the other day who said that you hoped Muslims with whom you disagree were “hung up by their balls.”

    We all get it Jeffery. When it suits you, you call someone like Eaton delusional and all sorts of other nasty names. When you want to use her as some sort of authority, you cite her and think she is wonderful.

    I would ask if that is not the epitome of hypocrisy and whether hypocrisy is evil or good, but since you believe in it, you will say that it is good.

  6. Jeffery says:

    How tied in knots are you?? Why are so upset that I linked a kind and caring letter?

    Of course good and evil are subjective. For example, you are evil.

    In fact, you were the one the other day who said that you hoped Muslims with whom you disagree were “hung up by their balls.”

    Yes, I disagree with vile terrorists killing innocents. In fact, I disagree so strongly that I believe the vile terrorists should die a painful death, and would be willing to help them on their painful journey. I don’t care how they pray, but I do object to them killing innocent people. Don’t you?

    Is it really your position that unless one agrees with everything, one can’t agree with anything? That sort of dichotomous thinking is diagnostic of right-wing authoritarian thought, at least according to psychologists. The Dalai Lama doesn’t believe in your god, so do you object to everything he says?

    There is no evidence to support the existence of gods, angels, demons, heaven, hell, supernatural beings or events, magic or miracles. Belief that these things may exist doesn’t reach the point of delusion as you insist. Most agnostics will tell you that while it’s highly unlikely that mythical beings and supernatural phenomena exist, it is possible.

    If I called someone “delusional” I should apologize. Religious people are not delusional, even though they believe in things that almost certainly do not exist. It’s delusional to think you see angels or that gods talk to you. To build a life around these things, and critically, to expect others to believe these things is not delusional but is certainly not good behavior.

    We get it. Many religionists push back, sometimes violently, when their religion is criticized. My position as a religious agnostic is an indirect criticism of your religion. Sorry, but that can’t be helped. I don’t have to agree with your beliefs, but I understand your hostility.

    Why are you bothered that I linked to kind and caring letter?

  7. gitarcarver says:

    Why are so upset that I linked a kind and caring letter?

    I am not upset at all.

    I am just pointing out the hypocrisy and fallacy in your use of the letter.

    You don’t believe one thing the woman believes in, but yet you want to appeal to her authority to show how evil others are.

    You have sat here on this thread and typed how evil and horrible evangelicals are.

    That would mean that by your definition, Eaton is evil, horrible and delusional.

    I haven’t tied myself in a knot about anything. I am sitting here happy as a lark. You, on the other hand seem to be totally miserable and angry that your continued hatred, hypocrisy and lack of morals is constantly on display – and by you no less.

    Maybe you should really examine your life Jeffery as there is a lot of hatred in it. You hate Christians, you hate the right, you hate people of faith, you hate blacks, and you hate women. On the other hand you do seem to love the killing of children.

    No wonder you fly off the handle so often.

  8. Jeffery says:

    Your bizarre idea that agnostics cannot appreciate thoughts from non-agnostics is well.. bizarre. But we understand. It’s just part of your schtick to discredit those who disagree with you.

    You have sat here on this thread and typed how evil and horrible evangelicals are.

    The ELCA is not evangelical in the sense you think. If I had typed that you would have called me ignorant.

    In general, conservatives are evil and horrible. You may be ignorant of this but the ELCA is a liberal Christian church, which explains Bishop Eaton’s letter.

    I do dislike the conservative ideology, but I hate the sin, not the sinner. Conservatives are ruining the world and must be defeated.

    I oppose killing children, and pretty much oppose killing anyone except in self-defense, in a righteous war or to prevent terrorists from killing innocents. Abortion is not the killing of children. The ELCA doesn’t consider abortion to be the killing of children.

    You are one sick puppy, but not the sickest puppy here.

  9. drowningpuppies says:

    You are one sick puppy, but not the sickest puppy here.

    And apparently I’m a fluffer also.

  10. Dana says:

    Is the lady in the picture a professional skier/snowboarder? Holy cow, look at the muscles in her legs!

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