News And Observer: We Totally Need To Come Together In Face Of San Bernardino…For Gun Control

At the Raleigh News and Observer, Seidu Malik provides a pure checkbox view. ISIS and Islamic jihadis aren’t really Muslims? Check. Islam is totally peaceful? Check. Stop being Islamophobes? Check. We need to come together to enact gun control? Check. Oh, and no denunciation of radical Islam? Check

Don’t let San Bernardino massacre divide us

The shocking massacre at San Bernardino that killed 14 innocent souls and wounded 21 people unfortunately adds to the tally of the mass shooting epidemic in the country and must be condemned under no uncertain terms. This time around, the perpetrators were Muslims with links to an ISIS terror group and thus have inflamed the already volatile Islamophobic atmosphere in the country.

There is no denying that the ISIS terror group, using a perverted interpretation of Islam, has caused much misery in the world, most recently in France and with the downing of a Russian passenger jet in Egypt. To blame ISIS’ actions on Islam – which categorically says that “whosoever killed an innocent person, it shall be as if he has killed all mankind” (Quran 5:33) – is against the true principle of fairness.

Except, the problem with that quote is that Islamist do not see infidels and even Muslims who refuse to act in the hardcore manner as “innocent”. Let me throw another quote, directly from Mohammad out there: “I have been sent with a sword to fight people until they say there is no God but Allah.” Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387. He is “the ideal man, the perfect model of conduct.” And, as such, he immediately went on a rampage, waging war, forcing conversion at swordpoint, beheading enemies and raping women.

ISIS is a terror group that thrives on propaganda, fear and intimidation. It is not and will never be an Islamic organization, because its extremist views and actions contradict the Holy Quran, Sunna and Hadith (sayings and practices of prophet Mohammad). It should be viewed as a splinter group jostling for power and dominion in the Middle East.

Is Mohammad un-Islamic? His writings, his founding of Islam, say otherwise.

No religion in the world – be it Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism or Islam – teaches its followers to kill innocent people. Religion does not condone murder, lunacy and extremists’ views and neither does it have monopoly over such things. Therefore, blaming a religion that is followed by billions will only foment hatred and societal disintegration.

Yet, the teachings of Mohammad, and so many Islamic religious leaders, says otherwise. But, hey, we also go the checkbox stating that saying mean things, ie, the truth, about Islam is the problem, not the violence inherent in the system.

According to the mass shooting tracker, there have been 355 mass shooting incidences this year in the country. Interestingly, what is clear is that these incidences span the societal spectrum with the common denominator being mental health issues and easy access to guns.

Huh. Gun control.

We should come together as one to remove all the bottlenecks that might have stopped law enforcement agencies from preventing these mass shootings from occurring rather than lay the blame on Islam, which actually condemns all such violence.

Interestingly, there was no actual condemnation of these Islamic fanatics, as usual.

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11 Responses to “News And Observer: We Totally Need To Come Together In Face Of San Bernardino…For Gun Control”

  1. john says:

    Gee Teach sort of interesting to see what you share with us from your local paper. when I looked at the online edition
    I saw that the Raleigh paper was reporting that Robert Dear who attacked the Planned Parenthood headquarters in CO said in court where he was charged today that he was “a warrior for babies”
    Well does that remove any doubt where THAT was terrorism ?
    You can really see how NC is turning from red to purple to blue with all those new “smart” people moving into the triangle

  2. JGlanton says:

    “Mass Shooting Tracker” Crowdsourc Lulz.

    It may be for this reason, among others, that the FBI does not define “mass shootings,” only “mass killings.” The latter are those incidents with at least three dead, a metric based on the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012, which passed into law in 2013 and grants the U.S. attorney general authority to aid in the investigation of “mass killings and attempted mass killings at the request of an appropriate law enforcement official of a state or political subdivision.” Under this definition, there have been 67 “mass killings” this year.

  3. john says:

    What could have caused the Planned Parenthood killer to become so radicalized? Was it the internet? Should the FBI begin monitoring all those radical prolife sites? Was he radicalized by people like those that are always saying abortion is murder?

  4. JGlanton says:

    What an amazing example of cognitive dissonance that is to argue that ISIS is not an Islamic organization and that it contradicts the Quran, Sunna and Hadith.

    Might just as well claim that the Pope isn’t Catholic. Or that the Sun revolves around the Earth. Or that storms are getting stronger, droughts deeper, wildfires more common. Someone has to be so committed to their wackjob progressive agenda that they perform mental gymnastics to make Islamic killers fit their own political world view.

  5. Jeffery says:

    So you DO see all Muslims as guilty for the acts of other violent Muslims.

    In the following, the LORD thy God, instructs his followers to stone unbelievers to death. Nice.

    Deuteronomy 17
    If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

  6. gitarcarver says:

    So you DO see all Muslims as guilty for the acts of other violent Muslims.

    I guess you missed the fact that one of the neighbors is said to have noticed the activities of California shooters but was afraid to report them for fear of being called a bigot and a racist – you know, just like you are doing now?

    A fair question is therefore, “do you always support terrorists or just those of a certain faith?”

    After all, it is clear that you hate any connection between Islam and terrorism but had no issues falsely labeling the Planned Parenthood shooter as a “Christian.” It just seems odd that you are willing to support the false labeling of members of one faith but rankle against the accurate description of those of another faith.

    Also, it has been reported that the man who bought the guns and gave them to the California shooters was in the process of converting to Islam. Would you consider his conversion to be that of Islam or to “radical Islam?” And frankly, what is the difference in your mind?

    (BTW – keep quoting texts of which you have no idea the context or the actual meaning. It makes you and your arguments look more and more ridiculous.)

  7. drowningpuppies says:

    (BTW – keep quoting texts of which you have no idea the context or the actual meaning. It makes you and your arguments look more and more ridiculous.)

    Nothing more than lil’ jeffy practicing his own brand of leftist taqiyya and kitman.

  8. Jeffery says:

    gc,

    Thanks for reinforcing my point. We get it. Fundy Christians are terrified of and hate Muslims.

    You fundies call abortion the “murder of babies”, yet when one of your own actually has the balls to act on your common beliefs, you disown him, but not your incendiary beliefs. How convenient. When were you radicalized? How else do you support radical Christianist terrorism, other than NOT condemning terrorist acts that support your agenda?

    We get it. You think your mythical supreme being is better than their mythical supreme being and that your set of silly beliefs is superior to their set of silly beliefs.

    We get it. You’re afraid. And fearful people, like scared dogs, can be dangerous. But ask yourself, sitting behind your triple locked door, stroking your AR-15. Is this living?

    Lil’ fluffingpuppies never has an original thought, but spends his time in mama’s cellar typing insults to those he hates and fluffing those he loves.

  9. Jeffery says:

    The fundie “Christian” sect in the US is a bizarre off shoot religion blending selected aspects and trappings of Christianity incorporated in a milieu of racism, sexism, violence, libertarianism, white supremacy, paternalism, paranoia and nostalgia. They tend to be virulently anti-abortion, anti-gay, pro-gun, anti-immigrant, anti-government, anti-New Testament and anti-science.

    Most of the American far right-wing identifies with this sect. They used to be a fringe sect, now they dominate the Republic Party.

    They follow the teachings of Christ about as well as ISIL and al Qaeda follow Islamic teachings.

    Many of the terrorist attacks in the US (clinic bombings, Mosque attacks, hate crimes against Blacks and gays, sovereign citizen outbursts) are committed by members of or those affiliated with this bizarre right-wing Christianist cult. It is up to moderate Christians to rein in this off-shoot of their religion.

  10. gitarcarver says:

    You fundies call abortion the “murder of babies”, yet when one of your own actually has the balls to act on your common beliefs, you disown him, but not your incendiary beliefs.

    So many things wrong with this.

    First, the Planned Parenthood shooter was not acting on “common beliefs.” He was acting against the common beliefs of Christians as well as most others.

    Secondly, as we discussed before,. the shooter was not a Christian. You tried that tact before and got shot down at every turn.

    The only point you have made is the one on your head.

    Thanks for not not discussing this in a rational manner. You once again have shown an inability to address anything that seems to be contrary to reality and against your views.

  11. drowningpuppies says:

    I thought gitarcarver was the fluffer.
    Lil’ been watching himself some gay porn.
    Or was that kiddie porn?
    Guess we’ll find out when the grandkids testify.

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