Study: Electric Vehicles Can Be Worse For Environment Than Fossil Fueled Vehicles

On the bright side, there are so few of them, because only a tiny percentage of people are willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars for a vehicle that can’t travel very far per charge

(UK Daily Mail) They have been hailed as the environmentally-friendly solution to getting around towns and cities.

But new research has found electric cars have an overall impact on pollution that may be worse than gas-guzzling vehicles.

The study looked at US vehicle emissions on a county-level to map where gas cars and electric vehicles cause the most damage to the environment.

It found that in the east of the US, the impact of charging up EVs overnight does more harm to the environment than going to the petrol station.

‘What we find is that the benefits are substantially different depending on where you are in the country,’ study co-author Stephen Holland of the University of North Carolina, told CityLab.

The real big take-home message is: location, location, location.’

What they mostly mean by “the environment” are greenhouse gases, rather than things that are actually bad for the environment. Anyhow, certain areas are better than others, because so much depends on where the energy comes from

With gas cars, the worst damage, which is shown on the map in red, took place in highly-populated urban areas such as New York.

Environmental damage for EVs appears to be worse in the Midwest and Northeast, where the electricity grid tends to rely on coal power plants.

In places like LA, EVs produce less environmental damage because the city’s air shed traps pollutants from gas cars.

Strange: liberal cities in the North are pretty bad with gas vehicles. I thought all these Warmists would give up their fossil fueled travel. I guess not. Hey, I know a way we could make the EVs more “environmentally friendly”: build nuclear and natural gas plants and replace the coal fired plants (which really are bad for the environment).

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9 Responses to “Study: Electric Vehicles Can Be Worse For Environment Than Fossil Fueled Vehicles”

  1. Liam Thomas says:

    And despite all that….whats even worse….is that in order to power autos, trucks, semi-s, trains, planes, tanks, jets, non Nukalar navy vessels, Cruise Boats, tractors, combines, and the myraid of other things that current run on fossil fuels….

    they are going to have to make trillions of batteries…..

    The world will be strip mined for these rare earths needed.

    Now lets assume they figure out how to make rechargeable batteries that do not require rare earths…….

    Right now fossil fuels are using a minimum of world resources to dig up resources….

    Batteries will require HUMONGOUS amounts of world resources to make and they are not forever….they eventually run out and wont hold a charge hence they will need to be recycled…..100’s of plants around the country will have to be set up using world resources…..

    10’s of thousands of plants around the world will have to be set up to recycle trillions of batteries.

    The AGW crowd is so FIXATED ON ELECTRICITY that they somehow in their lame brains have decided that its.

    1. Alternatives for Electricity…..Check.

    2. MASS TRANSIT RUNNING ON ELECTRICITY….check.

    3….Farming, ranching, tilling, planting, transportation to markets, combines, tractors, Planes, trains, Tanks, Military vehicles………ahh….ahhh………ahhh……..ahhh…..ahhh……I know AGW will end wars and end militar’s…..ahhh

    RIIIIGGGHHHHTTTTT!

    AGW is all about destroying capitalims and the other day in reponse to Jeffery’s comment I posted quotes from several high ranking AGW and IPCC official stating exactly that on record…..quoted, and even printed by AGW truther papers such as the guardian.

  2. CaptDMO says:

    “They have been hailed as the environmentally-friendly solution to getting around towns and cities.”
    So walking is out I suppose?
    Let me know when Sedan Chair Carrier, perhaps Horse Shit Sweeper, is the desirable station in life for concerned green “job” candidates.
    The US doesn’t recycle Nuclear reactor fuel because….WHY, again, Mr. Carter?

  3. gitarcarver says:

    I once had a conversation with a person that thought batteries and electric cars were the absolute and total answer to AGW. (They are a part of the power generation,. but not “the” solution.)

    I asked her where the power for the rechargeable batteries was going to come from.

    She responded “from the wall socket!”

    When I asked where the power in the wall socket was going to come from, she said “from the wall!”

    She was thrilled that a new nuke plant was not going to be built in the state and that a NG power plant was shutting down because of the environment, but she just never made the connection that the power that comes out of the wall or an outlet has to be generated somewhere and somehow.

    So after the plant was closed and her bill for power went up, she was angry when the power company shut her power off for non-payment.

    I suppose I didn’t help things by saying “All you have to do is just plug things into the wall, right?”

  4. john says:

    Hmmmm interesting post there Liam.
    So you think that the US Navy now has decided to set a new course hell bent on destroying capitalism ?
    And Apple and WalMart they too are co-conspirators and want the world to fall into the ruin of communism ?
    You think that there is an unholy alliance between the rabid left and the rabid right?
    Do you see how silly it seems?

  5. gitarcarver says:

    So you think that the US Navy now has decided to set a new course hell bent on destroying capitalism ?

    You realize that the military works OUTSIDE of the capitalistic system because they have no competition. You do realize that, don’t you john?

    And Apple and WalMart they too are co-conspirators and want the world to fall into the ruin of communism ?

    Apple and WalMArt will work to make the most profit. That is the way of capitalism. However, being that the government is pushing regulations and worker requirements for the “collective good,” it is clear that the government is looking to take these companies under their umbrella of authority.

    Do you see how silly it seems?

    Yes john, your posts and AGW seem very silly.

  6. John says:

    well i am glad that i was able to make you smile a bitGC
    Do you also have a communist phobia?
    GC I like most Americans have a great deal of respect for our military. Since the Pentagon has acknowledged the national security issues involved in AGW for over 15 years, I consider it pretty silly to think that tehy are part of a GIANT conspiracy to crush capitalism and place all under the yoke of COMMUNISM !!!

    And yes GC I am GLAD that our government seeks to regulate business. I am glad that corporations are no longer allowed to use child labor or make workers toil in unsafe working conditions. I think that our elected government should regulate businesses Would YOU trust an unregulated Wall Street? Would YOU trust Detroit to make safe cars and recall unsafe ones without fear of government regulation? I want our government to regulate industries that pollute.
    GC which governments on our planet do NOT see AGW as a problem for our planet?

  7. John says:

    Many people DO also have the option to ask their local grid operator ( in y case Con Ed ) to buy their power from renewable sources This helps renewable energy producers by guaranteeing a market share

  8. Jl says:

    “Which governments on our planet do not see AGW as a problem for our planet?” John doesn’t see the irony in looking to governments for science problems. Good one, John

  9. gitarcarver says:

    GC I like most Americans have a great deal of respect for our military.

    The problem is john that you have respect for the political shenanigans the military is forced to play while hating the men and women who serve on the front lines. That is what liberals do. Conservatives, on the other hand recognize that the military can be used as a political base (as you are doing) and have no respect for that.

    Since the Pentagon has acknowledged the national security issues involved in AGW for over 15 years,……

    The Pentagon has acknowledged the effects of Canada invading the US. The Pentagon is paid to war game and plan ahead even if those plans will not come to fruition.

    You have tried using the logical fallacy of appealing to the authority of the Pentagon on this issue without ever acknowledging who the Joint Chiefs work for.

    And yes GC I am GLAD that our government seeks to regulate business.

    Then you are anti-capitalism. Let’s get that straight. While you are mocking those who talk about communism, you are in fact an advocate of that form of economic system and government.

    I am glad that corporations are no longer allowed to use child labor or make workers toil in unsafe working conditions.

    And why would you think that would happen?

    Tell me john, are you against kids setting up a lemonade stand? The government is. Are you against a kid working to cut grass and make some money? The government is. Are you against kids earning some money officiating sports? The government is. Are you for forced child labor? The government is. (And that is not a typo. The government forces kids to work without compensation.)

    Would YOU trust an unregulated Wall Street?

    As oppose to regulated Wall Street? The regulations that caused the economic disaster we continue to go through?

    Do you trust a government that rigs elections in favor of unions? That has a supposed unbiased EEOC commissioner writing editorials and blog posts on why all businesses should be forced to unionize?

    Would YOU trust Detroit to make safe cars and recall unsafe ones without fear of government regulation?

    This is laughable coming from you.

    You applaud Obama for “saving” the auto industry, but remember that that bailout occurred at the expense of GM owners that were injured by GM products whose judgments were vacated against Federal law. Is that the type of “regulation” you want? Or how about GM and the Feds colluding to hide the ignition switch issue. That’s the regulation you favor? Or how about the government seeking to penalize Toyota for “unintended acceleration” when there was no scientific evidence it was occurring and then let GM off the hook when there were proven cases of the same thing.

    You like regulation of industries and companies you support. You want the government playing favorites. That is a sign of central control or communism. (See? You do support communism!)

    I want our government to regulate industries that pollute.

    That regulation should be based on science, and not the whims of unelected officials. Those regulations should be based on the welfare of the people and not the welfare of special interest groups.

    Face it comrade, you are against the freedoms upon which this country was founded.

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