Priorities: Brandon To Crack Down On Ghost Guns

This is simply a deflection from the problems plaguing America, an attempt to whip up his foaming at the mouth moonbat base

Biden expected to release rule on ghost guns in days

The Biden administration will come out with its long-awaited ghost gun rule — aimed at reining in privately made firearms without serial numbers that are increasingly cropping up at crime scenes — as soon as Monday, three people familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.

Completion of the rule comes as the White House and the Justice Department have been under growing pressure to crack down on gun deaths and violent crime in the U.S.

The White House has also been weighing naming Steve Dettelbach, a former U.S. attorney from Ohio, to run the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, or ATF, the people said. Biden had to withdraw the nomination of his first nominee, gun-control advocate David Chipman, after the nomination stalled for months because of opposition from Republicans and some Democrats in the Senate.

For nearly a year, the rule has been making its way through the federal regulation process. Gun safety groups and Democrats in Congress have been pushing for the Justice Department to finish the rule for months. It will probably be met with heavy resistance from gun groups and draw litigation in the coming weeks.

The devil’s in the detail. How many ghost guns are in private hands who are not criminals? What happens if it turns out that the majority used in crimes in Democratic Party run cities by minorities, and they’re being prosecuted more? We all know the actual crime statistics involving crimes with firearms, shootings, and murders.

The rule is expected to change the current definition of a firearm under federal law to include unfinished parts, like the frame of a handgun or the receiver of a long gun.

Pieces of firearms are not firearms. A guitar body is not a guitar till you’ve gotten all the pieces and assembled it.

In its proposed rule released last May, the ATF said it was also seeking to require manufacturers and dealers who sell ghost gun parts to be licensed by the federal government and require federally licensed firearms dealers to add a serial number to any unserialized guns they plan to sell.

The rule would also require firearms dealers to run background checks before they sell ghost gun kits that contain parts needed to assemble a firearm.

I’m just wondering, do they actually have the statutory authority to do this? One would think this is the type of thing that requires the duly elected Legislative Branch, not the Executive. But, hey, since Congress often abdicates their responsibility to be the law makers by passing laws that are overly broad and give the Executive way too much freedom to make laws themselves.

A second question would be “what else is hiding in the rule that will have consequences for law abiding gun owners?”

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12 Responses to “Priorities: Brandon To Crack Down On Ghost Guns”

  1. The solution that the left never want to mention is that the solution to crime is to crack down on criminals!

  2. Facts Matter says:

    I have a gun safe full of guns. I have a concealed carry permit. Have taken multiple training courses. I shoot at a gun range all the time. No, I do not practice urban assault, I just want to be able to hit what I am aiming at. In fact, the range I am a member of does not allow fire and maneuver actions on their range.

    That being said, Ghosts guns are not any different than illegal guns that have had their serial numbers filed off.

    I own a 300 blackout with an interchangeable barrel. The one I have has an 8 and 1/2 inch barrel with an 8-inch silencer. When firing subsonic Ammunition you cannot even hear it 20 feet away. I bought a 5.56 interchangeable barrel, as well as a 7.62 interchangeable barrel and lower assembly from reputable dealers, and these items, were delivered to a gun shop. It took 10 months for me to get my silencer after putting in an application.

    The point is pretty simple. There are real reasons most of us would buy parts for weapons. Yes, technically I can build anyone of 3 weapon calibers with interchangeable barrels and lowers but that is only because I like shooting whichever ammunition is the cheapest.

    Right now 300 blackout, NON-subsonic ammo is about 1.50 per round. 5.56 ammo is about 49 cents per round. You go to the range and put 100 rounds down range and it costs you 150.00 dollars for the 300 blackout but only 49 dollars with you 5.56 and the 7.65 ammo many times is only about 45 cents per round.

    Most criminals and kids with a hard on for killing people are not practicing their aim at a gun range.

    9mm ammo is pretty cheap right now, costing around 40-43 cents per round of Full metal jacket rather than hollow point. If you buy .45 ammo it costs close to 90 cents per round and good luck even finding 40 caliber or 357, 44 magnum rounds under two bucks a round.

    So as you can see the industry is steering us to the Glocks and Sig’s 9mm which is what most of the police use while the military has gone away from 45 and is now using 9mm as well.

    Serial numbers, ghost guns. Laws only keep honest people honest. Seriously, just like a lock will keep an amateur out of your house but a pro will be inside in less than a minute.

    • Professor Hale says:

      All guns are “ghost guns”. It is a myth that guns used in a crime can be tracked back to the criminal using a serial number. Very few criminals bother to file off the serial numbers, and that’s because they are stupid. A SN only tells you who the original owner was , assuming that was not a fraudulent sale, and that would only work if the USA had a master data base of gun owners and so far, it does not.

      Second myth: that guns leave a ballistic “fingerprint” on the bullet that can uniquely identify it. Ballistics can only claim that a bullet MAY have come from that gun.

  3. coralstrawberrydiomedes8862 says:

    Ahhh most “crime” is of a non violent nature
    Wage theft loss is around 15 billion per year.
    Crack down on criminals? Ever look at how ineffective police are at actually solving crimes? Average cost of incarceration in the US is around 25000 per year. Maybe we should be spending more on trying to prevent crimes than catching criminals
    after the crime has been committed which apparently hadn’t been working too well
    Large percentsges often 30 tp 50% of guns removed by police from criminals are stolen guns. More guns means more guns for criminals

    • L.G.Brandon!, L.G.Brandon! says:

      When you state “More guns means more guns for criminals” are you promoting the idea our rights should depend upon their misuse and abuse by criminals? Do more knives and such mean more for criminals too or are you just concerned about those who are shot not slashed to pieces? What you are saying is any rights or actions at all that could benefit criminals should be eliminated.

      Only a person who believes in neither our natural nor constitutional rights would make such an ignorant statement.

      • Two Gun Safes Elwood P. dOwd says:

        We should hope our criminals used knives to commit their crimes!!

        Drive-by knifings instead of shootings. Mass knifings instead of shootings. A toddler accidently knifing her brother instead of shooting him. A depressed man knifes himself instead of shooting himself. “Nightclub knifer taken down with baseball bat, 2 wounded!”, instead of “Nightclub shooter sought, 7 dead, 22 wounded!”

        BTW – The U.S. has the highest homicide rate of all advanced nations.

        In the U.S., 51% of suicides are by firearms and 2% by cutting.

        That said, the U.S. will not ban firearms, so our goal should be to keep them away from criminals
        and reduce the causes of violent crime. Since at least half of violent criminals use stolen firearms is there any way to prevent their theft? Each year nearly a thousand Americans are killed in accidental shootings. Is there any way to limit that?

  4. Two Gun Safes Elwood P. dOwd says:

    We need fewer laws and more guns!!

    Do we need any laws? No laws means no criminals!

  5. UnkleC says:

    Serial numbers were not required on any firearm until 1964, while many had them before that date, many did not. Collectors are keenly aware of the serial number situation, or should be. Our country also has long standing traditions regarding individuals building their own guns and other weapons.
    The issue boils down to the authoritarian concept of disarming the populace, not “crime control”. Crime control in it’s simplest terms involves removing the criminals from society for an appropriate term for punishment, not making more laws to create more criminals. Want to identify the authoritarians, simply check out their position on ‘gun control’. More ‘gun control’ means more authoritarian. I think it was Mao who said “All power comes from the barrel of a gun”.

  6. Facts Matter says:


    Are Guns Registered in the USA? 5 ATF Databases Exposed

    by Jacob Paulsen on June 18, 2015 in Law, Politics

    There is quite a bit of confusion surrounding gun registration in the United States. When someone purchases a gun, is it registered to the buyer? And is all the information is stored in a database somewhere? In other words, are guns registered when you buy them?

    are guns registered?

    Generally speaking, there is no system, database, or registry for most American gun owners that tie us to any firearms we own. The Brady Act is the law that created the background check system. The law states that authorities must destroy the records of each background check within 24 hours.

    The local shop that sold you the gun keeps records of the gun, name and serial number which the AFT and FBI has been secretly violating the law by getting all these records and putting them into a database.

    Despite FOPA, There Are Some Limited Government Gun Databases
    In addition to the local authorities who may disregard the local law, we also know that the ATF keeps at least 5 databases of specific firearms and their owners to include:

    The Firearm Owners’ Protection Act of 1986 (FOPA):
    FOPA is a United States federal law that revised many of the Gun Control Act of 1968 provisions.

    As such, FOPA makes it illegal for the national government or any state in the country to keep any database or registry that ties firearms directly to their owner. The exact wording of the provision is as follows:

    No such rule or regulation prescribed [by the Attorney General] after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary’s authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.

    • Facts Matter says:

      In short. Biden and his ghost gun threat is without teeth because a company always puts serial numbers on their parts. But no one traces or stores a database of these parts so it would require a DATA BASE, which is of course against the law.

      Givin the base a bone. DOWD is all excited for nothing. Once again a career politician is using misdirection and bait and switch to make his base happy while offering to deliver nothing.

      Sure if you nab a guy shooting someone with a ghost gun…throw the book at him, but don’t think that there is going to be a database of serial numbers going to your house. And if there is. It will be against the law.

  7. UnkleC says:

    Facts, 80% receiver forgings are not serialized as the ‘are not firearms’ and are incompletely machined. Typically, in the U.S.A., a gun is serialized when it is completed, not before, for a number of reasons and then only the receiver is serialized. Some countries and some manufacturers number a substantial number of parts; the Swiss and the Germans come to mind. The ‘kits’ that are spoken of can be a variety of parts sets, but usually do not contain a receiver or sometimes not even a barrel. Therefore, not a gun. Situations vary widely.
    The 600lb gorilla here is the BATF, a very political organization. They have been collecting ‘illegal registers’ for some time now and could put some of them to use to please their political masters. Firearms manufacturers and many parts suppliers are required to have a Federal Firearms License of some level and this is a venue for the BATF to to exercise their authority to review the production and sales records.
    With the authoritarians currently occupying D of C at this moment, this could become a serious issue.

  8. Professor Hale says:

    If this were really an issue and not just pandering to anti-civil rights activists, the law would make it illegal to manufacture or improvise firearms without license. But since making guns is 14th century technology and any 14 year old with a nearby Home Depot can do it, this doesn’t look like something that is going away.

    Heck, even American Indians could make firearms and they hadn’t even discovered Iron smelting or the wheel yet.

    Modern firearms are machines. Like any machine, they have replaceable parts. While most modern firearms will outlast their owners, people who shoot competitively often wear out a barrel every year. Something people who got their degree in pre-law wouldn’t understand.

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