Majority Of Voters Think Putin Wouldn’t Have Invaded Ukraine With Trump In Office

Democrats can say what they want, but, Putin didn’t go on any adventures while Trump was president, like he did when Obama was in office and Joe was VP

62 percent of voters say Putin wouldn’t have invaded Ukraine if Trump were president: poll

Joe Biden Ice Cream AfghanistanA majority of American voters say that Russian President Vladimir Putin would not have invaded Ukraine had former President Trump still been in office, according to a new survey released on Friday.

A new Harvard Center for American Political Studies (CAPS)-Harris Poll survey released Friday found that 62 percent of those polled believed Putin would not be moving against Ukraine if Trump had been president. When looking strictly at the answers of Democrats and Republicans, 85 percent of Republicans and 38 percent of Democrats answered this way.

However, 38 percent of all Americans polled believed that Putin would have invaded Ukraine even if Trump had been president.

I’m guessing they only polled affiliated voters, not independents? Did they ignore those voters? It’s a rather strange political poll if they did, unless the numbers of independents caused the average to still be 62. Anyhow, it’s a pretty bad thing for Brandon that even 38% of Democrats think he failed.

A majority of Americans polled — 59 percent — also said they believed that the Russian president moved on Ukraine because Putin saw weakness in President Biden, while 41 percent said that it was not a factor in Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine.

No one seems to have a link to the actual poll, and it is not published at Harvard-Harris website at this time. Something else in the poll

A majority of voters say President Biden is too lenient with Russia as Moscow undertakes a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, according to a Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey released Friday.

Sixty-four percent of registered voters in the survey said Biden is “too lenient” with Russia, while 31 percent said he handles Moscow “just right.” Five percent said he’s “too tough.”

Ouch. And

President Biden’s approval rating has hit a new low of 38 percent, according to a new Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey released exclusively to The Hill on Friday.

Seventeen percent of registered voters said they “strongly approve” of Biden’s job in office while another 21 percent said they “somewhat approve.”

Another 39 percent said they “strongly disapproved” of Biden’s job, while 16 percent said they “somewhat approved.”

Isn’t it great that there are no more mean tweets?

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43 Responses to “Majority Of Voters Think Putin Wouldn’t Have Invaded Ukraine With Trump In Office”

  1. Dana says:

    Why, it’s almost as though the public aren’t swallowing the Democrats’ propaganda.

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    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Note too, that a majority of American voters didn’t swallow djt’s propaganda in 2020. And that poll sampled some 155 million Americans!!

  2. Hairy says:

    Biden poll ratings suvk
    They are as bad as Trumps
    Of course Trump did have the benefit of coming in with a good economy and no pandemic
    Biden came in with unemoyment at 24% and a cratering stock market.
    Counties that voted Trump now have 2x higher covid desth rates
    90%of Dems are vaccinated 60% of Republicand
    Rough estimate is since Biden took office 500000 Americans have died: 170000 Dems 330000 Republicans. If this continues how will it impact elections?

    • L.G.Brandon!, L.G.Brandon! says:

      Hairy: “Biden poll ratings suvk They are as bad as Trumps”

      You communists are insane with Trump. He’s not president the usurper is so it does not matter what Trump’s polls are. Problem you have is 70% of Americans right now wish Trump was president and believe if he were there would not be a war in Ukraine. Unlike you sophomoric brain washed brandon dick skrs, they realize weak men create hard times. A lesson lost on Democrats in general, fake president supporters specifically.

      “Of course Trump did have the benefit of coming in with a good economy and no pandemic”

      The president has NO CONTROL OF A PANDEMIC regardless how much you wish he did Hairy. And Trump came in with a so-so economy still reeling from the Obummer fiasco and made it a great economy by pursuing an AMERICA FIRST policy.

      “Biden came in with unemoyment at 24% and a cratering stock market.”

      Brandon came in with the unemployment and stock market created by the Democrats to get Trump out of office. I guess they figured cheating wasn’t enough. It was Democrat Govs and Mayors that shut down the economy. They ruined it just to beat Trump. Because they hate Trump more than they love their fellow Americans as demonstrated by your ridiculous and totally incorrect statements that follow:

      “Counties that voted Trump now have 2x higher covid desth rates
      90%of Dems are vaccinated 60% of Republicand
      Rough estimate is since Biden took office 500000 Americans have died: 170000 Dems 330000 Republicans. If this continues how will it impact elections?”

      Not one word thee is correct including IS and IF. You are believing BS numbers cranked out by partisan hacks the same liars who have been cranking out phony numbers since Pelosi and DeBlasio were dancin’ with the Chinks for New Year in 2020. It’s all lies AND YOU DOPEY BASTARDS STILL LISTEN TO THEM AND QUOTE THEM.

      Please grow up

  3. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Of course the Teflon Don lost bigly. But Teach is likely right, since Putin and trump together would still be working to dismantle NATO and certainly work to turn Ukraine toward Russia as much as possible.

    Why do you think the USSR, Russia or Putin never invaded a NATO country?

    Putin is afraid of NATO and especially the USA. Like most bullies, Putin is a coward and only goes toe to toe with weaker nations. To advance directly on Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania would require balls, even for a sociopath/psychopath like Putin. Of course Putin will send undercover agents to disrupt societies, he’ll have his hackers hack.

    Russia is kleptocracy run by the murderous dictator, Putin. No wonder trump and his minions love them some Putin.

    trump admires Putin so his followers admire Putin, who is a ‘savvy genius’ according to our own ‘stable genius’. LOL.

    • ruralcounsel says:

      The US and EU are just as much of a kleptocracy as Russia. Ukraine is a pawn being sacrificed between two global powers, neither of which are blameless.

      Pity the Ukrainians. They didn’t have a chance, because we wouldn’t let them alone.

  4. Up Yours says:

    You’re not EP Dowd, you’re the imaginary rabbit, with a wild imagination.

  5. ruralcounsel says:

    Putin would have had to invade eventually. Trump wasn’t in control of his globalist State Department, and they had been trying to lure Ukraine into being a hostile power on Russia’s border for years. They instigated the 2014 coup, they discouraged Ukraine from negotiating with Russia.

    The EU and US wanted to take advantage of widely-known Ukrainian government corruption. When the pre-2014 government wouldn’t play ball with the EU, they destabilized it.

    Everyone knows the justifiably paranoid Russians wouldn’t allow Ukraine to join NATO. But we and the EU continued to dangle that possibility in front of the Ukraine. We essentially backed the Russians into a corner where they had told us again and again what they would do. And then they did it.

    We are responsible for pushing the Ukrainians into this war, even though Putin started the actual shooting. This is morally more our fault than Russia’s.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      trump wasn’t in charge of his own State Dept? Sec of State Pompeo wasn’t in charge of his own State Dept? If that were true, whose fault would it be? Clinton? Biden? LOL.

      So, the ‘justifiably’ paranoid Russians wouldn’t ‘allow’ Ukraine to join NATO? Allow? Do you mean they’d start a war if they didn’t get their way? A sovereign nation can make its own decisions, right? How many Ukrainians do you think welcomed the Russians?

      When was Russia last invaded?

      • ruralcounsel says:

        It’s the Deep State bureaucracy. The State Department is full of them. No president is really in charge, but if the POTUS happens to be in agreement, then it all works out. When Trump, who decided to abandon our forever wars and nation-building policies, the State Department was essentially a domestic enemy, because they did everything they could to undermine him. They all should have been fired.

        Yes, they would not “allow” just like we would not “allow” Cuba to invite in Russian troops and missiles. Just like they wouldn’t allow Georgia independence in 2008 .. just a few years after we were bringing the Baltic states into NATO. Are you really that ignorant of history? It’s called the Munroe Doctrine, and we’ve had it for roughly 230 years.

        Russia was last invaded by the Germans in 1940’s. And they took around 20 million deaths over it. So they have a very good memory.

  6. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    If instead of doing Putin’s bidding in trying to destroy NATO, imagine that trump had actually tried to strengthen NATO, even having Ukraine join!

    Putin knows that invading a NATO nation means the end of Russia. But Putin is a cornered, terrified wild animal and is unpredictable. America and the West needs to make it clear that an attack on NATO means the end of Putin and the end of Russia.

    The American far right falsely claim that Putin is fighting back against western aggression (NATO nations on Russian borders). But NATO doesn’t invade other nations, Putin does.

    Putin is a tyrant. Stop supporting him. Stop fearing him.

    Russia is cracking down on what little free speech they still have…

    Russian authorities are cracking down on protesters there, arresting thousands.

    • ruralcounsel says:

      NATO is outmoded and has served its purpose. There is no reason to strengthen an organization where most of the members don’t live up to their obligations.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Russia has never invaded a NATO country.

        • ruralcounsel says:

          Maybe because they had no aggressive intentions. The Soviet Union was disintegrating, and they couldn’t even hold on to their Warsaw Pact satellites. Russians were not a threat to NATO the way the Soviet Union was.

          Maybe they would be if they could, but I suspect the Russians know better.

    • ruralcounsel says:

      And we are clearly no better than the Russians …

      “Russia is cracking down on what little free speech they still have.”
      “Russian authorities are cracking down on protesters there, arresting thousands.”
      Sounds like the US, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada. And most of Europe.

      “The American far right falsely claim that Putin is fighting back against western aggression (NATO nations on Russian borders). Except it isn’t false. We’ve expanded NATO towards Russia. Poland. Hungary. Czech Republic. Estonia. Romania. Latvia. Lithuania, Bulgaria.

      But NATO doesn’t invade other nations, Putin does. Iraq? Afghanistan? You can’t be that stupid.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        We are no better than the Ruskies, comrade?

        How much is trump Inc paying you to spread Putin propaganda?

        Don’t blame NATO for the lies of W and Cheney.

        ruralcounsel types: Except it isn’t false.

        Russia rightly fears NATO and that keeps Russia from attacking its neighbors. You call that aggression, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland etc call it freedom and peace. Note the recent invasion of non-NATO Ukraine by Russia. It was on all the stations.

        We are still stunned that the American right-wing supports Putin over America.

        Is there one reactionary who will condemn the invasion of Russia without blaming the USA for Putin’s actions? If not, why?

        • ruralcounsel says:

          I’m a US Navy vet from the Cold War period, so your resorting to slander is stupid and just proves your ignorance and lack of honor. Insults are the result of losing the argument. And you clearly have been swept up by all the war porn and war propaganda that flows at the start of n event. If you want to go fight for Ukraine, go for it.

          I’m not saying that the Russians are doing a nice thing to Ukraine, but they are certainly doing a predictable thing. We led Ukraine down a primrose path, trying to strip them from the Russian sphere of influence. We lured Ukraine into doing something suicidal. That is on us. Russia, if they are smart, has no desire to stay and run Ukraine. It would be like another Afghanistan fo r them. But they will wreck and destroy it so that the West can’t weaponize it against them.

          • ruralcounsel says:

            You see, I don’t support Putin. I feel downright sorrowful for the Ukrainians. You are demonstrating the simplistic and regrettable mindset that if we don’t follow your script, that we are on the other side.

            Some of us are more intelligent than that (and you) and can see the nuances and policies behind what happened. You are just proving you are as much as a neanderthal as some of the Trump supporters. Just the mirror image of them, with all the same flaws and faults.

          • ruralcounsel says:

            David Frum, fresh off his job as a White House speechwriter penning Bush’s war speeches, in which Bush proclaimed the U.S. was facing an “Axis of Evil,” published a 2003 article in National Review about right-wing opponents of the invasion of Iraq, aptly titled: “Unpatriotic Conservatives.” Go look how cheaply and easily people were accused of being on the side of The Terrorists or traitors for the slightest deviation from the dominant narrative.

            This is Elwood, transported ahead 19 years.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            So the Russians may not be doing a nice thing??? They’ve invaded a sovereign nation with no provocation whatsoever. We think we can all conclude that is a BAD thing.

            YOU blame the US for Putin’s psychopathy and actions. Putin is to blame. Period.

            Putin is afraid of NATO and the USA, not because they are a threat, but because they will protect ALL the member countries.

            Maybe Putin is paranoid. Maybe Putin feels his grip on Russia loosening. Maybe he is just friggin’ nuts. Who knows.

          • ruralcounsel says:

            But they were provoked. There’s your mistake.

            And they are acting just as we would in a similar circumstance.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        But NATO doesn’t invade other nations, Putin does.

        ruralcounsel typed:Iraq? Afghanistan? You can’t be that stupid.

        It appears you may be that stupid. Would you like to correct your falsehood?

        • ruralcounsel says:

          NATO (European troops were in Afghanistan.

        • ruralcounsel says:

          British troops were in Iraq. The whole “coalition forces” thing was primarily NATO troops.

        • ruralcounsel says:

          And the US is part of NATO, so when we invade, NATO invades.

        • ruralcounsel says:

          And let us not forget our little expedition into Bosnia, circa 1995-1996. UN and NATO forces intervene.

        • ruralcounsel says:

          So suck on those, Elwood. You just keep making jingoistic falsehoods. Didn’t realize you were a NATO worshiper.

        • ruralcounsel says:

          Listen to a rational man …

        • ruralcounsel says:

          Or read this …

          Elwood, you should recognize yourself in some of this discussion.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            You should recognize some of your previous comments word for word in Mr Greenwald’s article, LOL.

            Did you notice Greenwald’s complete and total lack of solutions? It sounds as if Greenwald is saying, “Let Russia be Russia, as we have no interest in Ukraine”.

            Maybe Putin is wrong, maybe Putin is right, he says. LOL.

            Lauren Boebert says we should stay out of Ukraine (we are staying out) but rather invade Canada to liberate those oppressed Canadians from the tyrant, Trudeau.

            If Putin believes that Ukraine was planning to invade and occupy Russia or that the Jewish Zelenskyy is a neoNazi he’s crazier than a shithouse trump.

          • ruralcounsel says:

            I believe that the person crazier than a shithouse pump is you.

          • ruralcounsel says:

            *trump” damn autocorrect.

          • ruralcounsel says:

            And what does the question of Greenwald having solutions have to do with anything? His job is to report, not fix a failed State Department.

            Could it be that our NATO/EU/WEF idiots and our foreign policy have put us into a situation without happy solutions?

            And we HAVE NO INTEREST in Ukraine. Get that through your hyperactive feverish little selectively jingoistic mind.

            The foreign policy that has gotten us into so many failed missions over the past 40 years is the one that says we have to go around the world starting wars, droning innocent people, and lecturing people with drastically different cultures that they should become like us. And if you think we are doing that out our own little altruistic hearts, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Again, what Putin and Russia have done is indefensible. Since Putin is a madman with nukes, nations opposing his actions must tread carefully.

            The USA is not perfect, but we haven’t led an unprovoked invasion of a sovereign nation since spring, 2003. And at least we invaded a criminal dictatorship.

            But the community of nations cannot sit idly as Russia, unprovoked, invades Ukraine. What’s to stop Putin from taking Finland and Sweden? NATO helps keep Europe safe from Russia (and China if they choose to be asswipes like Putin). Speaking of China, the show of unity by most nations and the swift enactments of sanctions may make Xi think twice about overrunning Taiwan.

          • david7134 says:

            The majority in this country feel that Putin would be controlled if Trump were president. But thanks to people like you our presidential office is held by a contemptible corrupt, demented fool. And he got there by the steal. Every action of his supported by scam like you has led to this war.

            You call for action, but it will not be your family that pays the price for your stupidity.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            The davebot1619 suddenly finds that America’s majority is important.

            Its programmer is reminded that President Biden won the majority of voters in 2020.

            So… were Americans dumb in Nov 2020, but ‘savvy geniuses’ today?

    • Down on the Corner says:

      Hey DOWD. Ukraine issued a plea for international fighters to come and join the fracas.

      I suggest you load up your family and take Hairy and ZACK with you and go defend Ukraine. They need you badly.

      As for the post you posted it is so full of BS as to be comical.

      1st Trump could not ask Ukraine to join because the country was chin deep in corruption. Nato said no to Ukraine until they cleaned up their corruption. Hell Obama sent half his staff to Ukrain to cash in on the corruption going on there. How would you like Mexico and Canada to have Chinese/Russian/Iranian/North Korean troops on its border facing the USA with tactical nukes?

      Cornering Putin with more nukes than China and The USA combined is a good idea? Really?

      Putin put his nuke forces on alert. He is going on 70 years old. Not a young man anymore and certainly is being cornered into a position where it might be reasonable to assume that the mass murderer who is Vlad the MAD would be willing to use NUKES. He has enough to mow down the USA and China and most of nato.

      DOWD writes….Putin is a tyrant. Stop supporting him. Stop fearing him.

      First no one is supporting Putin, many on the right just see this for what it is. Another war to make your new best buddies, the MIC rich.

      Fearing him. Yeah he just put his nuclear forces on alert. Nothing to fear from him. MAD once was legit. 100,000 nukes. Today there are only about 4000 spread around the world. Vlad the MAD might trully think if he is cornered that using them is a legit option.

      Canada is no better off than Russia when it comes to free speech. How come you don’t rant and rave about China who just makes their people disappear. Weld them into their apartments until they die?

      No. It’s your war. How come you didn’t support the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan? How come you were all about trashing Bush and Cheney as Nazi’s for defending America from countries that were sending terrorists to blow up our buildings and our people.

      Hypo fuking crit.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Suck it!

        Commenter: Canada is no better off than Russia when it comes to free speech.

        Don’t act stupid, if you’re acting.

        We didn’t/don’t support the invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan or Ukraine. Duh. Neither Iraq nor Afghanistan sent soldiers to the US to kill civilians. Saudi Arabia may have.

        You’re really not defending the US invasions and occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan are you?

        Is any action by any other nation justified? Do you oppose the economic sanctions?

        Perhaps you feel that powerful nations should be able to swallow up smaller nations.

        If a nation feels threatened (real or imagined) it has the right to invade a nearby nation that is NOT threatening them?

        • drowningpuppies says:

          Like a homeless man screaming obscenities at passersby in order to attract attention to himself.
          Pity the Rimjob.

          Bwaha! Lolgf

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