Doctors Say No Need For Masking School Kids, The Danger Is Low

Just last week this was considered to be “dangerous dis/mis-information”, you know

WRAL would have been railing at people who were saying this over the last year plus. Seriously, we’ve known that the threat to children from COVID is very low since the beginning. We’ve known that there was little need for masks in schools since schools started reopening. That the masks would barely make any difference at all. Of course, the Experts are saying it’s OK only if the kids are vaccinated, despite kids having done well in school long before they were eligible for the shots, which are equivalent to getting a flu shot at this point.

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25 Responses to “Doctors Say No Need For Masking School Kids, The Danger Is Low”

  1. Hairy says:

    85% of adults are now at least partially vaccinated.fully vaccinated people are 93% less likely to die from covid. Vaccines work. The 3000 people dying from covid each day are the unvaccinated, not the “sciency” people.
    Teach did you read my response to Ruralcoundrl about that “John’s hopkins” lockdown dtudy? Turns out it was neither a peer reviewed study nor was it even endorsed by that University. How valid do you think it is/was? I say was because by now people are giving it much validity

    • david7134 says:

      If 85% of adults have the vax, then we can stop harassing everyone and stop destroying the Constitution.

      Now, you are upset that the Hopkins article was not peer reviewed or endorsed by the university. The majority of articles are not, so why do that with this article.

      You and Jeff know very little about medicine, don’t display your ignorance.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        The davebot1619 keeps repeatin’ the oldies. Destroying the Constitution… that’s a good one davebot.

        Davebot1619 has been programmed to pimp the Hopkins article. LOL!

        davebot1619 wants us to believe it’s an authority. LOL!

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    • Dana says:

      Did anyone do the math?

      U.S. COVID deaths in 2021 surpass 2020 total
      By Ryan Chatelain Nationwide
      PUBLISHED 3:24 PM ET Oct. 06, 2021

      According to data from Johns Hopkins University, more than 353,000 coronavirus deaths have been reported this year, topping the 352,000 recorded in 2020.

      The overall death toll as of Wednesday afternoon stood at 705,831. The U.S. surpassed the 700,000 mark Friday.

      The first COVID-19 vaccines received emergency use authorization (EUA) from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) last December, and Pfizer’s shot is now fully approved. The shots became available to all American adults in April, and Pfizer’s shot was authorized for children as young as 12 in May.

      But, still, only 56% of the country’s population — and two-thirds of those who are eligible — are fully vaccinated, as many Americans express hesitancy or skepticism about the shots’ safety and efficacy. To compare, Canada has fully vaccinated 72% of its people, and the United Kingdom has inoculated 67% of its population.

      The vaccines first became available in December of 2020, for health care workers, and no one was fully vaccinated until January of 2021. Yet, in ten months of 2020, March through December, with no one vaccinated, there were no more COVID-19 deaths in the US than in the ten months, January through October, of 2021, when vaccines were available, becoming widely available in March.

      The obvious question becomes: if the vaccines, which supposedly reduced infections of the alpha and delta variants, and lessened the seriousness of the disease in all variants, why were there just as many deaths in the first ten months of 2021, and now, with time continuing to pass, more deaths than the unvaccinated year, when so many Americans are vaccinated?

      • Est1950 says:

        I have done this math repeatedly. In fact, months ago back last year I was talking about how unprotective masking was because I had seen studies that everyone was ignoring.

        This math is what led me to pull the plug on my career and return to South America where I felt I would have no doubt which side I was on at all times. An art that America has lost a long, long time ago in the sea of misdirection and deception because of the Industry of getting elected or reelected.

        The average man on the street can look at pure raw numbers and understand basic concepts. I found it highly suspicious that monoclonal antibodies suddenly became unavailable to most people when it was clear they were pretty effective. I cannot prove the reasoning I heard from many doctors both in the USA and Ecuador so I will not elaborate further on that.

        The rest of the now western countries in the world were left to fend for themselves and fed constant lines of BS that any drug and many were used, would not work and you were fools for using it. The alternative of course for most of Central and South America was to Eat dirt and die. Rather than take Hydroxy or Ivermectin. Incidentally, do you know what is the go-to drug for people suffering severe long covid?

        Hydroxychloroquine, which almost every person to a man or woman claims helps with their symptoms dramatically. Unfortunately, you cannot keep taking it so after they stop the symptoms return. I get this from visiting local clinics in Ecuador, not from any FDA or CDC or WHO doctors who are being assed fuked by Big Pharma to discourage anything but the trillion-dollar industry of Covid Vaccines and the coming viral pills.

        Every vaccinated person who survived the virus is claimed to have done so because they were vaccinated. How do we honestly know? Every person who died without having had the vaccine is blamed for the folly and foolishness of not being vaccinated. How do we know?

        The WHO claims there will be more variants. I agree, there probably will be but they will almost certainly be even less deadly and more contagious because that is what viruses do in order to survive. It is why people don’t freak out over Ebola. It is so deadly that it kills itself off with every outbreak.

        So yes I believe covid is endemic now as does even blue states and rational democrats. Masking is pointless, (obviously except for healthcare workers) because 60 percent of the population in the USA uses cloth masks(Probably 90 percent in poor countries) because of the cost and we know from study after study that cloth masks are next to zero percent effective in preventing any spread.

    • letmepicyou says:

      Declare that you work for big pharma.

  2. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Again, Teach… when the situation changes so should the response! To claim that relaxing mask standards now means they were never appropriate is just silly.

    Kids are at lower risk than old, fat folks. Vaccinated kids are at low risk! Before they were vaccinated they were at higher risk! Masking, any masking, reduces the risk. It’s not that difficult to understand. But… the loss of a child is more tragic than the loss of a 73 yr old.

    If you are vaccinated and boosted your chance of dying from Covid are over 20 times LESS likely than an unvaccinated person. And we’re still waiting for the evidence showing that the vaccinations are killing thousands.

    The most recent 7-day average of daily deaths was about 2,600 dead Americans from Covid.

    Here’s something new for wingers to rail about: A pre-print from Japan detailing some characteristics of the new Omicron variant that is spreading…

    85 Abstract
    86 Soon after the emergence and global spread of a new severe acute respiratory
    syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) Omicron lineage, BA.1 (ref1,2 87), another
    88 Omicron lineage, BA.2, has initiated outcompeting BA.1. Statistical analysis
    89 shows that the effective reproduction number of BA.2 is 1.4-fold higher than that
    90 of BA.1. Neutralisation experiments show that the vaccine-induced humoral
    91 immunity fails to function against BA.2 like BA.1, and notably, the antigenicity of
    92 BA.2 is different from BA.1. Cell culture experiments show that BA.2 is more
    93 replicative in human nasal epithelial cells and more fusogenic than BA.1.
    94 Furthermore, infection experiments using hamsters show that BA.2 is more
    95 pathogenic than BA.1. Our multiscale investigations suggest that the risk of BA.2
    96 for global health is potentially higher than that of BA.1.

    Of course wingers will consider this just another CDC/WHO/Fauci/Biden scamhoax for fascist CONTROL!! They may recommend you wear a mask, just like Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot did!!

    We’ll see…

    • david7134 says:

      Your article certainly SUGGEST that the virus is going to be tough on hamsters.

      There is no reason at all for putting mask on children other than to needlessly torment them and their parents. Your emotional bullshit does not work.

      And Fauci is a murderer.

    • letmepicyou says:

      They were never appropriate.
      COVID doesn’t exist.
      You are paid by Pharma and you are a liar.

  3. CarolAnn says:

    According to the actual scientists the science has changed regarding the Covid. Elwood Dowd is stuck in the past. Hell, even that nutty broad from the CDC says so and she’s always right. (wink, wink).

    A side note. Elwood is always stuck in the past since as a fervent believer in socialism he is stuck in a 19th century system that didn’t work then and still isn’t working anywhere. One should learn from the past not live in it.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:


      The facts about Covid have changed! New variants ring a bell? Vaccinations? As scientists gain more knowledge regarding a subject it’s wise that people change their actions, capisce?

      If Harvard Med School’s Dr Walensky is a nutty broad, what does that make you? LOL!

      A side note. Like most wingers, CarolAnn does not know the meaning of the word “socialism”, but then it’s evident this nutty broad doesn’t understand the meaning of a lot of words. LOL!

      Another side note. Socialism is system of government where the government owns the means of production.

      Final side note. Does CarolAnn think the US in the 1800s was a socialist nation???

      • CarolAnn says:

        You really can’t respond without sounding like a conceited pompous fool can you?

        So I’m right since all you have are insults. Oh well. Can’t say we haven’t tried. Like Let’s Go Brandon said, you’re an old guy stuck in old ideas. BTW you don’t even know about economics since socialism is absolutely NOT a system of government where the government owns the means of production. That would be communism, like Cuba. Socialism is a form of ECONOMICS where the government and enterprise operate as one unit. Like what we sadly currently have in many industries. The Nazis were socialists. The Soviets were communists. Learn something, dammit!

        • david7134 says:

          He sounds to me like a man/child, emphasis on child. But notice he can not rebut a thing, so you know you have scored points when he starts sounding like a 6 year old.

          • CarolAnn says:

            I kinda got that, david7134. I noticed it before I even commented here. He especially seems to flash his inferiority complex with Let’s go Brandon, Teach, drowningpuppies and you. I think he’s too afraid of Dana to get that flip.
            But the guy really has an inferiority problem that just overcomes all his comments.

            Plus he is always on the wrong side of history in that he always supports the tyrant, the dictator, the fascist idea, the communist politician and all the other loser crap that history has shown reasonable people don’t work. But he just laps it up.

            Like above when he blurts out that the science changed. No it didn’t, the election is getting closer. That’s all that changed. Then he vomits out how omicron something except if the science changed the fake vaccine hasn’t. They’re still using the same deadly shit for omicron they used for the original Covid. So what science changed?

            Everything the guy believes and postulates is BS from someone else.

          • david7134 says:

            Really good analysis.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:


            Are you just too dang smart to look anything up? Learn something dammit!

            Merriam-Webster: Definition of socialism

            1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
            2a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
            b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
            3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

            By the way, Mr Dana is by and large reasonable.

  4. Dana says:

    There are dictionary definitions of socialism, and then there has been socialism in practice. Socialism by definition always sounds so very, very good, where a benevolent government, a dictatorship of the proletariat, as it were, would hold everything in common, and distribute to everyone fairly and equally.

    Socialism, and communism, in practice has been a government by one-man dictatorship, or authoritarian control by a small group, using military and police forces to hang on to complete, undemocratic power. These dictators mouth the platitudes of socialism, to fool, almost always successfully, the political left in other countries. There have been differing levels of individual property and business and industry control by the government in different socialist states, but authoritarian control of the populace has been a general theme in all of them.

    Socialism in definition cannot tolerate individuality, in action or thought, because individuality can lead to, Heaven forfend! a change in government, and therefore dissent must be crushed. Karl Marx thought that somehow, some way, the entire proletariat would all think the same way, and with that strange idea in his mind, the idea that all would share and share alike somehow worked.

    George Orwell’s 1984 was more prophetic than many realized. Not only was Winston Smith working in a propaganda ministry to change history to that which the Party approved, but the grey uniforms of the people symbolized the necessity of the Party to control the individual right down to his skin. The Chinese Communists, who came to power just months after Mr Orwell’s novel was published, put the “Mao suit” and what amounted to a uniform for everyone into practice.

    Dictionary definitions of socialism are really useful only for university bull sessions over coffee or beer; socialism as put in practice, as a political ploy for authoritarian control, is what matters, and it’s history has been one of a couple hundred million deaths.

  5. CarolAnn says:

    Sorry to tell you this Elwood but you Merriam-Webster definition of socialism is incorrect. I use the economic terms.

    Under socialism the factors of production , Land, Labor, Capital and Enterprise are mostly privately owned but administered under the direct authority of the State. i.e. Nazi Germany. Krupps and Porsche still owned their companies but the Reich directed their use. Ever see Shindler’s List?

    Under communism those same factors of production are owned and operated by and at the discretion of the State. i.e. N. Korea and Cuba. Notice how the CCP OWN the businesses inside Red China?

    You need a better source and they need better economic contributors. But that’s not the first time We’ve noticed you put all your eggs in the basket of supposed “experts” only to be shown they ain’t so expert after all. One word : Fauci. We refer you to your decidedly incorrect and anti-science stance on both the Covid debacle and the silly 70 year old climate scam run by another “expert” Al Gore. (Or is it that kid Gretchen? I forget).

    You really should try using your brain instead of just talking down to “silly girls” like me. You also just proved yourself to be a misogynist and once again a bigot.

    You really do live in the past. You are bereft of new ideas and rely on old disproven socialist and communist thinking with your usual dash of self absorbed fascism which has become your trademark here.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      “When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

      ’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

      ’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

      – Charles Dodgson (Lewis Carroll)

      If your (and Dana’s) definition of ‘socialism’ differs from dictionaries, history, encyclopedias, media and professors, perhaps YOU need a new word! We get it. You use ‘socialism’ for the same reason you use ‘communism’ – they both have negative connotations. The English language famously facilitates new words or new uses for extant words.

      What is your biggest worry? It sounds as if it is tyranny or authoritarianism, but only tyranny where the tyrant oppresses your beliefs. Why not say that? Do you really feel that President Biden is more of a potential tyrant than trump???

      Most problem is trying to understand what you nuCons actually believe. It sounds as if you have no beliefs other than power for your tribe!

      1.Do you feel/believe that trump won GA, MI, PA, AZ, WI?
      2.Do you feel/believe that only some 6% of deaths attributed to Covid is the true number?
      3.Do you feel/believe that the govt response Jan 6 ‘kerfuffle’ is a sign of coming tyranny?
      4.Do you feel/believe that the mean global surface temperature has increased in the past century?
      5.Do you feel/believe that Caucasian Christian Americans are in danger of being replaced by ‘people of color’ and non-Christians?
      6.Do you feel/believe that masks reduce the spread of Covid?
      7.Do you feel/believe, in general, that Caucasians are superior to people of color?
      8.Do you feel/believe that US public schools are being used to indoctrinate children AGAINST Caucasian Christian Americans?
      9.Do you feel/believe that the Deep State (FBI, CIA, ‘lifer’ bureaucrats, State Dept, courts, EPA, CDC, NIH, NASA, media, elites, med community, universities etc) are working to destroy America and establish a communist-type dictatorship?
      10.Do you feel/believe that Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid programs should be terminated?

  6. letmepicyou says:

    I love all the good little Jew pharma bots in here talking about “vaccines keep you safe!” and “COVID is such a killer!” and “variants! variants! variants!”

    Nothing called COVID 19 has ever been isolated in a lab nor proven to cause disase.
    No isolates are available for study, PERIOD.
    Anyone that claims otherwise is LYING.

    There is no reason to wear a mask because masks are about obedience and NOT about disease.
    If you haven’t been wearing a mask to prevent disease for the last 50 years, nothing about that SCIENCE has changed in the last 5 years.
    There is no reason to get a Jewish vaccine for a disease that doesn’t exist. 100% of vaccines are bad for you. There are NO GOOD VACCINES.

    • What’s with this “I love all the good little Jew pharma bots” bovine feces? Certainly some American Jews have advocated vaccination, but it has been, for the greatest part, nominally Christian governors and the President who’ve tried to mandate vaccinations, tried to force people to take the vaccines?

  7. alanstorm says:

    Doctors Say No Need For Masking School Kids, The Danger Is Low

    The data has been saying that for two years now.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      No, that’s not true. What is true is that people are exhausted by the pandemic and want it in the rearview mirror. Covid (regardless of variants) appears to be with us to stay, and with nearly a million dead (and over 2500 still dying daily) we are ready to just ‘live with it’.

      The concern with schoolchildren is that they could infect other, older, more susceptible family and family friends.

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