EU Backing Down Off 2035 ICE Vehicle Ban

Don’t think the elite in the climate cult will give up, though. They love dictating how the peasants live their lives, while they themselves drive large fossil fueled SUVs and limos

EU set to ease 2035 combustion-engine ban amid auto industry pressure

The European Commission is expected to propose easing the European Union’s effective ban on sales of new combustion-engine cars from 2035 this Tuesday, as Brussels weighs how best to balance climate ambitions with growing pressure from governments and an auto industry facing fierce global competition.

The move, still being finalised ahead of its unveiling, could see the ban pushed back by up to five years or softened indefinitely, according to EU officials and industry sources.

The 2023 law requires all new cars and vans sold in the bloc from 2035 to be CO2-emission-free.

Any revision would mark the EU’s most significant rethink of its green transport policies in recent years, reflecting concerns from major member states such as Germany and Italy, and from automakers struggling to keep pace with lower-cost Chinese electric vehicle (EV) makers and US rivals.

Money talks, and the sales of EVs are collapsing in the EU, plus, no one is saving money since the governments are slapping all sorts of taxes and fees on them to make up for the loss of road and gas taxes. And let’s not forget there are multiple layers between the citizens of European countries and the rulers on the European Commission, who basically dictate policies for EU countries.

“The European Commission will be putting forward a clear proposal to abolish the ban on combustion engines,” Manfred Weber, president of the European Parliament’s largest group, the European People’s Party (EPP), said on Friday. “It was a serious industrial policy mistake.”

Not all governments agree, however, as Spain’s Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez has urged the Commission to hold firm, warning that weakening the policy could undermine Europe’s efforts to build a globally competitive EV industry.

Would this be the same Pedro Sanchez who took a long, fossil fueled flight to COP30 in Brazil? I wonder if he travels in an EV?

Automakers are pushing to continue selling combustion-engine vehicles alongside plug-in hybrids, range-extender EVs and cars running on so-called CO2-neutral fuels, including e-fuels and advanced biofuels made from waste products. Von der Leyen said in October she was open to such alternatives.

“We recommend a multi-technology approach,” said Todd Anderson, chief technology officer at fuel-systems supplier Phinia, adding that the internal combustion engine would “be around for the rest of the century.”

Have they asked the citizens of the various European countries their thoughts? Or, are they irrelevant to the EU big wigs?

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14 Responses to “EU Backing Down Off 2035 ICE Vehicle Ban”

  1. Aliassmithsmith says:

    80% of all Tesla owners don’t normally wait at all. They charge overnight at their homes during low off peak hours.

    • Dana says:

      Living here in poor Estill County, Kentucky, I see things like homes with older electric service, only 100 ampere service, and one that I know of had only 80 amps with old screw in fuses. Those homes would require a licensed sparktrician to redo their service capabilities, and inspection by the utility company before reconnection.

      Of course, many of those older homes don’t have secure garages or dedicated parking places, and the residents have to park their vehicles on the street. Even with adequate service, there would be no place to locate a secure electric vehicle charger.

      This is the problem with our well-meaning and well-to-do climate activists. No matter how educated and noble they claim to be, they can’t see that huge numbers of American people can’t just switch over like that. They think nothing of pulling their Teslas into the garage and plugging them in for recharge, and seem to think everybody else can as well, without realizing that millions and millions of other Americans can’t do that. They don’t get that not everyone has $2,500 or more to pay for a licensed electrician to set up the service to power a 220-volt, 40 or 50 amp circuit, to power a $1,500 car charger, or $18,000 to add a garage in which to install the charger, or even have the space to put a garage in the first place.

      I did not live anyplace with a garage or suitable place to park and charge a car for the first 38 years of my life, living in houses without parking spaces and various apartments. Then for another 15 years, in Pennsylvania, we had to park my wife’s car on the street, and my truck on a slight driveway off the alley, but about 40 yards away from the house, so no ability to add a charger. And as the pleas for more “affordable housing” echo through, you’ll find more and more people who will lack garages or dedicated parking spaces.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Dana should relax.

        He and the science deniers are beating a dead horse!! They’ve won!! trump is president and has their backsides!!

        Anyway, if for some reason the fossilists lose their stranglehold on power, or worse, run out of affordable coal, oil and gas, society will figger out ways to power their vehicles.

        He does unintentionally point toward the real problem – too many poor Americans – and the problem is getting worse.

        • Dana says:

          The esteemed Mr Dowd wrote:

          He does unintentionally point toward the real problem – too many poor Americans – and the problem is getting worse.

          People did get poorer, during the era of Bidenflation.

          President Trump is trying to bring manufacturing, and manufacturing jobs, back to the United States, but it is very slow and painful.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Dana of Fayette is correct that the working class of America is getting poorer, but this was going on long before President Biden’s term.

            My family grew up poor in the 50s-60s but we had a house, 3 TV channels for free, a car, public education, stay at home mom, state college, heat, family health insurance and enough to eat. At the same time, the top marginal tax rate was 90%, we paid down the post-war debt and built modern America and the middle class – colleges, schools, highways, dams, bridges, airports, ports…

            We started cutting taxes on the rich in the 60s, and continue even today. The conservative mantra had become tax cuts for the wealthy, business deregulation… no more stay at home moms, no more affordable college for the masses… the constant use of the working masses to make more money for the already rich! De-unionization, wage stagnation, loss of blue collar jobs, corporations “exporting” labor to cheap oversea nations,

            St Reagan made the world worse for workers starting in the 80s. Our national debt nearly tripled (Reagan + Bush l) – trickle down econ! Technology-based work favored more educated workers, further widening the gap between those with and without college degrees.

            Today, America is becoming a plutocracy – rule by the superwealthy. But, it won’t last.

      • Aliassmithsmith says:

        Dana
        That might not be the market Tesla is aiming for. What percent of the total US Would have those difficulties?

        Mobile homes most typically have 60 to 100 amp service panels.
        About 7% of all Americans live in Mobile or manufactured homes. Probably not a good fit for Teslas

        • Dana says:

          Mr smith² just proved my case:

          That might not be the market Tesla is aiming for. What percent of the total US Would have those difficulties?

          I don’t think you get it. Under President Bisen, the United States was moving toward a regulation restricting the sale of new automobiles to zero-emission vehicles at some time in the near future; 2035 is the usual date given. That isn’t just Tesla’s market, but all new car sales. Poorer Americans buy used cars, but eventually the used car market is going to be filled with plug-in electrics, if those regulations are put back in force.

          We already saw a smaller version of this, due to the 2010 “cash for clunkers” idiocy. That was welfare for the well-to-do, but it also negatively impacted the used car market, because C4C required the vehicles traded in have their engines rendered completely useless. A good part of the 2006-7 used cars never came to used car market because their engines were destroyed.

  2. Dana says:

    That amazing and evil Donald Trump, now he’s exercising control over the European Union! Make Europe Great Again!

  3. James Lewis says:

    A.S.S.

    I have no idea as to how/who/when you get your claim. But if true, then 20% charge in other times and places.

    That is if it isn’t so cold that the mayors and such aren’t saying the grid won’t support them.

  4. tctsunami says:

    A persons situation changes as time passes. Case in point neighbor worked in town with a commute of 30 miles one way. He was transferred to a job 265 miles away but left his family here and comes home on weekends. His electric vehicle can’t make the trip without a charging stop along the way. With winter here I’m sure it is even less efficient. As far as it being CO2 emission free we get our electricity from natural gas and coal generations plants. There is one nuc plant downstate that was due to be closed but the governor ordered it to stay open as there is not enough power on the grid.

    • Aliassmithsmith says:

      Big wave guy. Do now his 4 hour drive will take 4.5 hours? It will take him 10% longer than in an ICE car?
      The general rule of thumb is EVs save about 2/3s the cost of ICE operation
      If he had an ICE he would use about 9 gallons.
      With an EV he would have a “cost” of about 3 gal. The extra 1/2 hour tine savings would cost him 6gal.

  5. Jk says:

    Maybe have been stated before, but “Ford pulling the plug on battery-powered F-150 after 19.5 billion loss..”

  6. Aliassmithsmith says:

    The first people to buy and use new technology are not the bottom level incomes.
    Remember cell rates of $3.50 per min? Remember limited areas of service ? I do.
    The very oldest Teslas often came with free Super charger refueling for life. Those models are appealing on eBay with $12000 prices.
    Dana LIVE IT UP A LITTLE ! drive a Tesla roadster and never pay for fuel again except when you must use that gas guzzling F150

  7. Aliassmithsmith says:

    The cost to carbon offset fossil fueled trips is quite low about 2 % of the cost of air tickets. International flights already have that built in

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