Obamacare was passed in 2010, went into effect in 2013, and, really, did anyone think we would be having an argument about it in 2025?
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene breaks with the GOP on Obamacare, calling to avoid premium hikes
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., broke with her party Monday evening by calling for action on expiring Obamacare subsidies to avoid premium hikes, adding a prominent MAGA voice to the cause led by Democrats.
In a long post on X, Greene, the far-right MAGA firebrand, made it clear she was not in Congress when the 2010 law passed.
“Let’s just say as nicely as possible, I’m not a fan,” she wrote. “But I’m going to go against everyone on this issue because when the tax credits expire this year my own adult children’s insurance premiums for 2026 are going to DOUBLE, along with all the wonderful families and hard-working people in my district.”
“No I’m not towing the party line on this, or playing loyalty games. I’m a Republican and won’t vote for illegals to have any tax payer funded healthcare or benefits. I’m AMERICA ONLY!!!” Greene added.
Now, is there some sort of compromise where the subsidies are kept for a period of time but illegals are forbidden from receiving taxpayer funded health insurance and care?
Consider
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A previous KFF analysis, based on data released by the federal government, showed the enhanced premium tax credits saved subsidized enrollees an average of $705 annually in 2024, bringing their annual premium payment down to $888. Without the enhanced premium tax credits, annual premium payments in 2024 would have averaged $1,593 (over 75% higher than the actual $888). More recent data have not been released.
Based on the earlier federal data and more recent other publicly available information, KFF now estimates that, if Congress extends enhanced premium tax credits, subsidized enrollees would save $1,016 in premium payments over the year in 2026 on average. In other words, expiration of the enhanced premium tax credits is estimated to more than double what subsidized enrollees currently pay annually for premiums—a 114% increase from an average of $888 in 2025 to $1,904 in 2026. (The average premium payment net of tax credits among subsidized enrollees held steady at $888 annually in 2024 and 2025 due to the enhanced premium tax credits).
In other words, without massive government intervention the whole thing is a Mt. Everest boondoggle, not just a K2 boondoggle.
(Townhall) Americans now spend more on healthcare than on groceries and housing. Last December, CBS News reported that the average cost of a family’s health insurance had increased from $5,791 in 2000 to nearly $25,572 in 2024. Coverage for a single person quadrupled over that same time period ($2,196 in 2000 to $8,951 in 2024).
And a goodly chunk of this happened post-Obamacare. The thing is, Obamacare is here. The time to kill it was before it went into effect in 2013. Had Republicans voted for squishy Mitt Romney it could have been stopped cold. It’s here now. Until Republicans in Congress come up with a better plan (snicker, and not like Dems would allow it), we have to go with it. Find a way to keep the subsidies but exclude illegals. This is the reality.
It is “toeing” not “towing”. As in the boxer “toed” the line.
Correct.
Illegals are already ineligible to receive fed funded health care.
And most do not need it because they are those healthy “military aged men”: the only illegals they do receive legal med care are those that are in detention.the 75% that work are ineligible. Who posts here lives in a state where illegals are allowed to receive free care ?
Weird that your own side of the aisle admits that illegals are getting craploads of free everything – healthcare, food, housing, cell phones, etc.
This is along the same lines as federal funds can’t be used for abortions and the left kept claiming they weren’t. But strange how all of those “women’s health clinics” went under when states finally put restrictions on it and turned off the flow of money.
Weird.
Big Donnie losing MTG gets his attention.
Represetative Greene no doubt heard from her constituents (her voters!).
William typed: +++is there some sort of compromise where the subsidies are kept for a period of time but illegals are forbidden from receiving taxpayer funded health insurance and care?+++
Compromise?? Not just NO! HELL, NO!! Big Donnie won in a landslide. The voters clearly want to see the poor and the working class shoulder a bit more of the burdens of America. The giveaways of Medicaid, the ACA, CHIP, SNAP are bankrupting America!!! The bigger bankrupters of Medicare and Social Security are next! We need the resources to finance ICE, the Border Patrol and the Ministry of War!!
Is William admitting that Big Donnie’s One Big Beautiful Bill Act is not perfect? Congressional Repubes knew healthcare costs would explode; they knew rural hospitals would close… And all these cuts and they still don’t cut the deficits and debt?!? WTF?
The only responsible response to Obysmalcare is to repeal the whole damned thing!
Remember how the charlatan from Chicago sold it as being health care for everyone? That it never was that stands as evidence that the muckraker now in Martha’s Vineyard — even he knew not to go back to the [insert slang term for feces here]hole that is the Windy City — was lying through his scummy teeth to get it passed. Remember: we had to pass it to see what was actually in it, and what was in it was nothing like what was promised.
Yes!! Cut all government support of healthcare! Set us free!! Medical inflation is adding 18% next year, regardless.
Projected increases in ACA premiums once the One Big Beautiful Bill Act takes full effect!
West Virginia — 387% (if you are paying $100/mo now, next year $387/month)
In fact, poor red states will take a shellacking. Mississippi, Arkansas, Wyoming, Kentucky, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Georgia (hello MTG), Alabama…
The cruel Catholic Dana says if you can’t afford to pay, you can’t afford to live. Just die and quit sponging off “good” Americans like him (who collects Social Security and Medicare!).
MAGA = Kill the Poor!!
Good lord, you’re stupid.
Government intervention in the healthcare markets is what is driving the inflation. It really started to take off in the 60’s, when Medicare and Medicaid were inflicted on the country.
And you think MORE government interference will fix that?
Good lord, you’re stupid.
Good lard, you’re stupid.
Every other wealthy nation pays less for healthcare than the U.S.
Perhaps you just don’t understand. Or perhaps you are just stupid.
from Peter Peterson-KFF:
Health expenditures per capita, U.S. dollars, 2023 (current prices and PPP adjusted)
U.S. — $13,432
Switzerland — $9688
Germany — $8441
Average — $7393 (wealthy nations)
U.K. — $6023
Japan — $5640
On average, other large, wealthy countries spend about half as much per person on health as the U.S.
If government involvement is causing the U.S. costs, and the U.S. has much LESS government involvement than Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, England, Finland, Germany, Israel, Italy, Japan, S Korea, New Zealand, Norway etc, shouldn’t U.S. costs be LOWER than Australia, Austria etc???
How do you explain that?
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-spending-u-s-compare-countries/#Health%20expenditures%20per%20capita,%20U.S.%20dollars,%202023%20(current%20prices%20and%20PPP%20adjusted)
Good lard, you’re stupid. Let us know if you want to discuss this reasonably.
Fat Jeff,
Are you aware that it is fraud for a doctor in the US to give a patient free care? Also, it is Medicare Fraud to not charge a patient the greatest amount possible. Didn’t think so.
Ugly david the liar,
Didn’t you claim to be a doctor?
Yes, it is perfectly legal for a physician to give free care as long as it’s NOT in exchange for referrals to government services. You, OF ALL PERSONS LOL, should realize that. There are a lot of crooked doctors, especially in red states and poor neighborhoods.
No, doctors are not required to charge the maximum amount allowed by Medicare; they can choose to accept “Medicare assignment,” which means they agree to the Medicare-approved amount and cannot charge more. However, doctors who do not accept assignment can charge up to 15% more than the Medicare-approved amount for certain services.
BTW, Medicare is subsidized by the federal government.
Medicare is subsidized by the federal government.
Medicare is subsidized by the federal government.
Taxes on 25 year olds are used to pay for hospitalization and doctors for old people!
Why? Because old people get sick more often than youngsters!! And their treatments are more expensive (cancer, heart disease, dementia, kidneys, liver, diabetes, arthritis, surgeries, glaucoma/macular degen, etc). If seniors had to pay the true costs of their healthcare they wouldn’t be able to afford it (unless they are multi-millionaires).
Should we just phase out Medicare and all medical subsidies? After all, the U.S. pays much more per person than any other wealthy nation with average results.
Cadillac prices for Chevrolet results!!
Democrats are the party of murder.
We don need no stinkin’ gubmint, beetches…
https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=740957889110871
A little late but the WaPo finally comes clean on Obamacare.
***The editorial’s newfound “honesty” reveals that one of the plan’s original fatal flaws — overestimating how many healthy, paying enrollees would sign up — has never gone away. The law’s architects, surrounded by progressive policy wonks and rubber-stamping journalists, assumed America’s risk pools would be deep and wide. What actually happened? Far fewer people signed up, and costs predictably soared. It’s shocking, unless you’re someone who actually understands that government can’t wish away economic reality.***
https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/10/08/guess-who-just-admitted-obamacares-a-money-pit-n4944611